Do you often think the internet is being taken over?

[BelgianMadCow]

and how do you think you would notice?

I recently thought BF2 with it's "MOC", USMC and China factions is a propaganda game.
This game also necessitated disabling my Nvidia firewall.
Now I got a matrix screen on startup with a boot from the DVD drive which had BF2.
And we got a call from a friend from the past with an urgency to meet us that left us puzzled and me wondering...

This BF2 thing creeps me out as much as the day CNN went behind a pay-per-view system and off regular cable over here. Must have been a year or so ago.

Or the day CNN started giving you a "US" or "Europe" edition, autodetecting your region, and routing you to an edition without notification.

Sorryynoia!

[rooney]

1. I don't know the technical details, but

more things seem to be happening right now that just makes me crazy. This is all in addition to the other controversial things that have been going on since GWB has been president. The Internet for instance, are they really trying to censure it to everyone? They get the propaganda going about fathers raping daughters on the internet and we need to protect our own daughters so let us censure. And just now, I am hearing about the CIA person being fired for leaking some info about the prisons in foreign countries and that he will probably be sent to prison for that. ISN'T this all backwards? The repug THs are saying the pulitizer prizes should haave not been given instead the winners should be sent to prison for treason. What the heck is going on?

[Dora]

2. "censor"

"censure" is a mode of punishment. "censor" is hiding/witholding information.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[rooney]

3. thanks for the welcome

I did mean censor, but it would be a punishment if my internet were taken away.

[BelgianMadCow]

4. Yes that CIA wistleblower silencing is awful.

and in plain day view.

Thru the looking glass they say on DU, but the looking glass was yéars ago.

Thanks for your considered post and welcome.

[lvx35]

6. agreed.

Welcome to the insanity, (and du! :)) there is a lot of action going on with the internet. Without cryptography, you can consider most of what you do on it vulnerable to survelliance, because of AT&T and Verizon's complicity in the domestic spying stuff, and the fact that most internet traffic routes through them at some point. Also, I know from experience that search engines are complicit in various things, mostly not indexing sites designated by the government to be risky in certain ways. (though this is tricky, because hate sites and nasty porn sites and "Al Queda" sites DO get indexed, making it seem very free!)

[Sinti]

5. It's not unusual for an online game to require disabling of your firewall

A lot of packet transactions happen between various IPs, and to allow/disallow all of them would make it impossible to play.

However, it does seem the Internet is being taken over by big business/big money. If you get a program called Peer Guardian you will see what I mean, knowing who owns many of the IPs that you might visit can be rather disturbing. At least we don't have our own version of the Great Firewall of China yet ;)

Link for Peer Guardian, it's free:

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

[BelgianMadCow]

7. One of the IP linked to this :

"
Network Working Group M. Handley
Request for Comments: 2974 ACIRI
Category: Experimental C. Perkins
USC/ISI
E. Whelan
UCL
October 2000

Session Announcement Protocol

Status of this Memo

This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the Internet
community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind.
Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested.
Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000). All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

This document describes version 2 of the multicast session directory
announcement protocol, Session Announcement Protocol (SAP), and the
related issues affecting security and scalability that should be
taken into account by implementors."

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3171.html

This as an eplanation of why I was NOT allowed to know who the relevant IP is (WHOIS). Dated 2000, how convenient.

Thanks a lot for the tip!!