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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:44 PM
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New Rush talking points on oil - my head hurts
(paraphrased) "Liberals are complaining about oil prices, they're demanding president bush do something about the price of oil, but do you remember during the first Gulf War how all the liberals were parading around saying no blood for oil. It's not worth a war. The war is all about oil. And that's what they're doing with this war. They can't have it both ways. They can't say no war for oil and then say bush isn't doing anything about oil."

There are so many things wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin. I'll just let anyone that wants to knock this out of the park refute it. . . . . . . . .
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:46 PM
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1. his wars contributed to the price increases! argh!!!!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:51 PM
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11. the *purpose* of the "war" was to raise oil prices
and to protract and consolidate control of dwindling oil supply.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:56 PM
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16. That's right...
Bush personally assured Putin oil prices would NOT go DOWN due to the Iraqi invasion.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:04 PM
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21. Bingo
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 02:05 PM by William Seger
Rush is just picking up on what FReeper's have been saying for a long time: "Hey, if this war was about oil, how come I'm paying more now?" As if the idea was to give Hugh Moran a cheap fillup...
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:46 PM
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2. Hey Rush what is wrong with "No War for OIL"? We have War and Higher OIL
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:47 PM
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3. The mind reels....
Okay, Rush, you got the war you wanted. And now gas prices are high. So your point is......? :wtf:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:48 PM
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4. Rush's mouth is not in any way tied to his brain.
I take that back maybe his brain is that empty
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:48 PM
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5. If the war is all about ensuring oil supplies
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 01:48 PM by XemaSab
Then why has the amount of oil coming out of Iraq declined since the beginning of the war?

We were told that the Iraqi oil would pay for the war.

So if the war was fought for oil, and is going great, then why are oil prices higher, oil production capacity down, and the US stuck under a mountain of debt? :shrug:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:54 PM
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12. Worst War For Oil EVER!
It's one thing to have a country run by pirates. It's another when the pirates are too incompetent to make their wars pay. The Iraq war is a big net NEGATIVE for oil, and money. For the six to ten billion dollars a month for the occupation, we could bathe in oil.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:49 PM
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6. But...but...but...The war ISN'T about oil, Rush! You've said so yourself!
You and all your fat-assed brain-dead right-wing whack-brigade have tried to beat up on us poor liberals by saying the war wasn't about oil, or even WMD, that it's all about freeing the poor Iraqis from the tyranny of that brutal bad-boy, Saddam Hussien. Remember, Rush? Oh, wait, probably not...that Oxycontin shit really fries the memory receptors.

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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:49 PM
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7. Bush is doing something about oil.
He's driving up the prices by cutting back production in Iraq. His military now controls 112 billion barrels of oil.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:49 PM
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8. When are they going to indict that gasbag for his criminal chemical
behavior? Forget past crimes, though that should be enough; he is clearly back on the pipe.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:50 PM
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9. The underlying assumption is a lie, not suprisingly.

This incogent argument assumes that having a war is what's required to keep the price of gasoline low. Now, back here in reality, a place not often visited by our pill-popping Mr. Limbaugh, the price of a gallon of gas has gone up 87% since the begining of this imbroglio, this folly in Iraq.

Mr Bush has often and loudly said that this war has nothing to do with the price of a barrel of oil. Perhaps Limbaugh should take him at his word. He can't have it both ways, either.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:51 PM
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10. Soo......the war WAS about oil after all? I'm so confused!
Or is it that because we would be against a war for oil should it ever be proposed and of course it never would because Bush isn't that kind of guy, we really don't mind high oil prices? If you aren't willing to kill civilians and our own troops for it, you don't really want it?

I guess there's two speeds for an amoral shit like Rush. Kill to steal it, or you don't deserve it.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:54 PM
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13. Like it's only liberals complaining about oil prices.
He's only going to piss off his a lot of listeners with this spin.
Thanks Rush for reminding people how they are paying through the nose every time they fill up. That's got to help Bush's poll numbers.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:55 PM
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14. Rush: "Unless you enjoy paying high gas prices, you are a liberal!"
Sounds like a bumper sticker for OUR side.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:02 PM
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19. Why do you hate Exxon ....err America? n/t
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:56 PM
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15. Just fuck you rush
that is all. Have an oxy.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:57 PM
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17. So he's admitting the war is about oil?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:01 PM
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18. I was gonna refute Rush, but then realized "Damn, he's got us on this one"
You see, in the end Rush and Bush were right after all. This whole time we've been saying blood is more valueable than oil. But it seems that I owe Mr Limbaugh a big apology. As it turns out, oil is much more valuable than blood. Hell, they're even saying it's gonna be even MORE valuable by the end of this summer. Eighty, ninety, maybe even $100 a barrel. And what'd you get for blood last time you donated? About 50 cents worth of cookies and orange juice, that's what. Assuming they're even taking your crack addict hippie-ass blood, that is. So you see, Rush is right. All the thousands and thousands of dead people, the lost credibility, the future wars, the skyrocketing recruitment among al-Qaeda (in Iraq now, mind you!), the deterioration of our alliances with Europe, the massive tide of anti-American politics in Latin America, the resurgence of Chinese diplomacy in the Middle East... it was all worth it.

The only complaint I have left, now, is that despite all the people Bush and Cheney have got killed, I'm still paying $3 a gallon for gasoline. If only I could find a car that ran on the blood of US service personnel, I'm sure we could get that down to $2.50 again, if only by cutting out the Iraqi middle men.

Sarcasm aside, my liberal complaint isn't that gas is too expensive; it's that the gas companies are gouging the consumers at a time when kids I'm teaching to love and serve their country are off dying for their market share.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:03 PM
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20. Isn't that an acknowledgment that this war is about the PRICE of OIL
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:17 PM
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22. If we had invested a portion of the billions spent on Iraq
on alternative fuels, we would be well on the way to energy independence and a cleaner environment.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:21 PM
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23. ??Liberals complaining??`
I drive one of them little furren jobbies that gets 40 mpg. I don't even look at the price. Now the freepers with hummers and the ubiquitous W stickers are who I hear crying and tearing their garments, a biblical sight of pain to be sure.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:36 PM
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25. You're right these complaints are from moderates and conservatives....
nt
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:30 PM
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24. Gee, we went and got it
but where the hell is it?

Never mind. I know, it's being kept where they have the weapons of mass destruction.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:39 PM
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26. Somebody ought to throw a net over that lunatic.
:eyes: Ted Kaczinski made more sense.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:40 PM
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27. Here's another batch...
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:48 PM
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28. Egads. We could start by NOT trying to overthrow Hugo Chavez.
That might make him LESS inclined to hate Yankees.
Personally, I think the Arabic OPEC nations are driving the high oil prices as punishment for our occupation of Iraq.
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