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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:44 PM
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Early buzz on "United 93" is very, very good.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/united_93/

It will be interesting to see how this plays out politically. From the Village Voice review (warning, there are SPOILERS):

Paul Greengrass's approximately real-time dramatization of what took place aboard Flight 93—which left Newark for San Francisco the morning of September 11, 2001, and crashed in western Pennsylvania 81 minutes after takeoff—is best understood as a memorial. (It was famously made with the support of the passengers' families, the press kit includes bios not of the actors but of the people they portray, and Universal is donating 10 percent of the first weekend gross to the Flight 93 memorial fund.) Like most memorials, it is respectful, premised on competing obligations to the dead and the living, and eager to stress that the deaths were not in vain. It not only tells us we should never forget but also illustrates how we should remember.

...snip...

United 93, in providing a coherent and vividly edited macro timeline of the day's hijackings and crashes, is a uniquely damning description of the chain-of-command failures and communication breakdowns that characterized the official response to the terrorist attacks. The film suggests that if the FAA, the military, and the airlines had been talking to each other that morning, Flight 93 need never have left the Newark tarmac. When it took off at 8:42, at least one hijacking was already well under way (American Flight 11 hit the north tower at 8:46). Twenty minutes earlier, the Boston control center had received the first suspicious transmission from the first hijacked aircraft: "We have some planes." (United 93 dispels the most popular conspiracy theory by pointing to incompetence—the plane wasn't shot down because the government was too stunned and unprepared to have done any such thing.)

...snip...

Perhaps mindful of his target audience, Greengrass makes sure to dangle some red-state red meat. In the blurry rebellion that is United 93's raison d'être—a spoiler follows—the passengers appear to kill two of the terrorists. It's the most problematic of the movie's unverifiable events, and one might say its biggest concession to popular taste. In dramatic terms, it's the only instant of catharsis. This act of self-defense may have happened, and the filmmakers are entitled to wish it did. But United 93 slips into propaganda with a concluding title card that declares, "America's war on terror had begun." Whatever Greengrass's intentions, his film's closing moments essentially memorialize 9-11 Bush style, as an occasion for revenge. Painful as this movie is, it's even more excruciating to imagine how it might play in some of the country's multiplexes.

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0616,lim,72901,20.html



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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:47 PM
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1. I refuse to watch it. It would have been better if it was released AFTER
Chimpy was out of office. Chimpy effed up every ounce of goodwill from the tragedy.

It would have been nice to open it under a new adminstration to reset the fuckin stage.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:48 PM
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2. I have no intentions of seeing it, either.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:49 PM
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3. This review seems to indicate that the movie is a little of both worlds...
both that of humanity, and of propaganda.

Human:
"its single most humanizing touch—to indicate that the heroes of Flight 93 were motivated not by patriotism, as it may be comforting for some to think, but by unthinkable fear and a primal survival instinct."

Propaganda:
"But United 93 slips into propaganda with a concluding title card that declares, "America's war on terror had begun." Whatever Greengrass's intentions, his film's closing moments essentially memorialize 9-11 Bush style, as an occasion for revenge."

Most likely, the passengers of flight 93 did what they had to do to get chance to survive.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:52 PM
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4. Eventually it will be shown on TNT six times a week
I'm curious about it but I'm not going to run out and watch it at the movies.
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sipnsail Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:59 PM
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5. United 93 was either shot down and/or exploded in the air.
Parts of the plane were found miles from where it supposedly "crashed".
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:06 PM
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6. The terrorists rolled the plane over...
...so it was flying upside-down. Passenger jets aren't designed to fly that way for more than a few moments, and structural forces would eventually cause the plane to start to break up in mid-air, which would explain the large debris field.

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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:09 PM
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7. I HATE fiction.
I won't be watching that crap. What's next, Jessica Lynch saves Pat Tillman who is brought back to life by Donald Rumsfeld?

This is much more informative...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:17 PM
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8. I'll be so glad when this POS comes out and the ads for it End! nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:31 PM
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9. I will not see this movie...
Even with the survivors' blessings, I still feel any movie of this type is exploitative. No one should be making money off this tragedy, IMO.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:33 PM
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10. Thank god for the spoiler!
Now I have no reason to see this propaganda..
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:34 PM
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11. Whatever heroic acts were committed on this flight they were corrupted
by the fascist in the White House by diverting everything for Iraq and lying to the world about Iraq and its connections to Al-Qaeda

There was no "war on terror" to be fought in Iraq until doofus hung our troops out to dry in Iraq
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:35 PM
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12. Sounds like a lovely little fairy tale.
Do you actually buy the nonsense that the government was too confused and disorganized to intercept?? They intercept off-track airliners and jets all the time. That's what the perpetrator Dick Cheney would have you believe. Wonder why the only tape of the flight controllers was cut into little pieces and discarded into multiple wastebaskets by the Supervisor?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:49 PM
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13. Sounds like "The Perfect Storm" formula of speculation.....
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:50 PM
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14. I may see it as an anthropologist and social historian
Sounds like it is a respectful telling/fiction of a powerful modern American myth.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:52 AM
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15. I saw the TV movie. That will do me for a lifetime. How horribly sad.
How horribly brave.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:02 AM
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16. I will never see it either. n/t
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:32 AM
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17. Won't see it. No need to live it again. n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:41 AM
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18. won't see it . . . don't believe the story for one minute . . . n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:48 AM
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19. I was thinking, "It's going to be a bad movie."
I've heard much to the contrary.

I want to see it now... and I do think it will have an impact, but not the kind conventional wisdom would predict.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:03 AM
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20. and then there's "Flight 93"
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