Official Alito Hearing Thread - Day 1 – Thread 2

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x96458

[CornField]

1. Who is asking the CAP question?

I can't view it today, only listen.

[babylonsister]

6. Leahy. nt

[LizW]

Leahy (D-Vt.) n/t

[LizW]

2. Thanks! n/t

[Greeby]

3. Someone pissed in Leahy's coffee

"After what your father went through. Why in heaven's name would you be proud to be a member of CAP?"

:bounce:

[WahooJunkie]

7. Answer =

"I don't remember"

[The Witch]

19. Hatch goes right to CAP, is he going to help him out?

hrm. "note: Reagan..."?

[Nimrod2005]

29. And makes me happy!!!

[Sydnie]

100. I got pulled away for the length of this whole thread - what is CAP?

I missed it all.

[StellaBlue]

4. bwhahahahahahaha

He 'has no recollection' of being a member of CAP!

bwhahahaha

[Viva_La_Revolution]

5. Leahy questioning his membership in Princeton group

that wanted to exclude women and minorities.


I have wracked my brain, and I just don't remember that. sheeshhh!

[ecstatic]

8. Unbelievable- Alito does not recall his dealings with CAP

What the hell? That BS answer alone should disqualify him.

[LizW]

11. It's a lie. He's lying. n/t

[underpants]

13. Turns answer into talking about ROTC getting kicked off Princeton campus

Bringing the dirty hippies vs. the US Army back into it

[oasis]

32. Rule #1: When caught in a lie, change the subject.

[Edgewater_Joe]

30. He Either Lied Then Or Is Lying Now

Because if he doesn't remember CAP, he's either saying he didn't really want to join (LIE) or he put it on his application in '85 to curry favor with Reagan (i.e., he LIED in filling that form out).

[txindy]

39. If racists and hate-groups don't trigger his memory, who would want him?

Seriously, why would we want a judge who can't remember such a group? Did they blend in to all of his friendships? Sounds like his world was made of the Nazis or KKK members, then.

[Edgewater_Joe]

42. Who Would Want Him? Republicans.

Who else?

[rodeodance]

50. typical answer for someone who does not want to answer a question.

[babylonsister]

9. Can't remember? These repugs seem to all have the same

problem!

[StellaBlue]

12. I think he must've actually inhaled

[Algorem]

10. "I have no specific recollection of that organization."

[underpants]

18. Get used to that

Hatch up now. Sure hope he asks those tough questions to better determine if this guy is ready for a lifetime appointment.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Hatch up...

:puke:

[bigtree]

15. Sen. Leahy:

"Why with your immigrant family's history, would you belong to CAP Concerned Alumni of Princeton? Everybody knew what they stood for. You proudly display this in your credentials. Frankly, I don't know why that was a sorce of pride for you."

[Greeby]

16. Hatch up

I'll take a break while Hatch conducts his usual 30 minutes of uselessness

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. Hatch on

:puke:

[underpants]

"Are you against women and minorities attending college?"

WOw Hatch is GRILLING him

:sarcasm:

The bit before that literally looked like they rehearsed it.

[Inland]

34. "That issue might come before the court. I have no specific recollection.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

20. Hatch (R) now

Isn't it true you never REALLY were active with this group?

:puke:


Do you hate women?

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. OH NOW he remembers things about CAP.

When HATCH asks about it. Funny how that happens.:eyes:

[LizW]

24. Amazing. His memory returns!

[ecstatic]

22. "are you against women and minorities attending college?"

Repuglishit turns it into a big joke. No, I'm not against women and minorities attending college, just not Princeton!

[underpants]

27. Did you know that Alito is the immigrant son of an immigrant father

or something like that?

WOW surely a rarity for someone born around that time huh?

[rodeodance]

77. we are all sons and daughters of immigrants (except Native Americans).

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. Hatch playing the race card

Half of NJ was Italian in the 50's and 60's asshole. The other half was probably Irish. Give me a break.

[Edgewater_Joe]

25. They Should Just Pipe In Canned Laughter

The jokes aren't funny, and Hatch and Sam "The Apparatchik" are forcing everything.

[Nimrod2005]

26. I honestly think he just perjured himself on the CAP ?

And dumbass Hatch is a punk trying to defend him...It is like Does Not Apply anymore after he said he can't remember!!!

[Lerkfish]

28. orrin hatch "questioning" feels incredible scripted

god, I hate simpering weasels.

[underpants]

36. I hear that Alito was in the ROTC but they were so persecuted

they were thrown off campus. Oh whoa is them!!!

DId he ever get commissioned?

[Inland]

31. "Alito recognizes right to privacy", says Reuters.

http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-01-10T150615Z_01_KWA606962_RTRUKOC_0_US-COURT-ALITO.xml

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, who voiced opposition to abortion as a Reagan administration lawyer two decades ago, testified on Tuesday the Constitution protects the right to privacy, a key underpinning of the 1973 Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion.

In the first round of questioning at his Senate confirmation hearing, President George W. Bush's 55-year-old conservative nominee also voiced respect for legal precedent.

"I do agree that the Constitution protects a right to privacy," Alito told Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a moderate Pennsylvania Republican and defender of abortion rights.

Alito was not immediately asked how he would rule on abortion if confirmed to the high court. But like previous nominees, he was expected to say he would not respond about cases that might come before the Supreme Court.

[LizW]

33. Oh, puke! Going on about the ROTC. n/t

[Edgewater_Joe]

41. They're Trying A Reverse Swift Boat Tack!

Let's completely obliterate all the non-answer answers and instead throw up some mud -- and do so through the military and those evil, EEEVILLL LEEEEBRALLLS from 30-40 years ago.

Folks, this isn't a hearing to the Repunks, it's just another Rovian campaign where we're being made the heels for their unwashed and brain-dead followers. That ALONE shows how far they are going to go to get this apparatchik in the Supreme Court.

Call your reps and get your relatives to do the same.

[librechik]

46. this line of questioning only reveals Alito has an axe to grind

against the "radical left" (i.e., anybody left of the ROTC)

[bigtree]

35. he interviewed applicants?!!!

where's the record?!! He kinda clammed up after he said that without stressing that he wasn't biased in the interviewing. I'll bet the record would show otherwise.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

37. I DON'T REMEMBER IF ANYONE WAS INJURED!

jeez. You think you would remember a little something like that.

[LizW]

38. Seriously, Hatch is about to come down from the podium and

give Alito a blow job.

I'm nauseous.

[CornField]

40. LOL!

[rogue emissary]

43. What do you mean about to?

:)

[Edgewater_Joe]

45. I Thought BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Was Banned In Utah

Or do they just like live shows?

[Nimrod2005]

52. lol...They are voyeurs there in Utah...

[stevedeshazer]

44. In case you don't know about CAP

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/11/18/news/13876.shtml

<snip>

Earlier this week, recently released documents drew attention for showing that, in a 1985 job application, Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito '72 wrote that he is "particularly proud" of his work on cases arguing that "racial and ethnic quotas should not be allowed and that the Constitution does not protect a right to an abortion."

Now, opponents to his nomination are using another piece of information from those documents to suggest he is far outside the mainstream in his political and social views: Near the end of his "Personal Qualifications Statement" for a high-level job in Ronald Reagan's Justice Department, Alito wrote that he was "a member of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton University, a conservative alumni group."

Interviews with several alumni who were students in the 1970s paint a picture of Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP) as a far-right organization funded by conservative alumni committed to turning back the clock on coeducation at the University.

The group, which published a magazine in which students wrote nostalgically about the days before coeducation, was frowned upon by Nassau Hall. Some alumni expressed surprise at Alito's association with CAP, but at least two suggested he might have put it on the 1985 job application to appeal to a personal connection in the Reagan administration.

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Now, he doesn't remember?

[rodeodance]

56. alito has had plently of time prepare himself for the 'correct' replys.

[Nimrod2005]

47. Will Hatch ever ask a question? or just go on talking about

Scalito's positives? how about a real question about legal issues involving a real case?

[in_cog_ni_to]

54. He always does this. Remember Clarence Thomas

and the coke can/pubic hair issue? Didn't Hatch pull out a copy of "The Exorcist" and read a paragraph from the book that just happened to have a sentence about a coke can/pubic hair in it? And said Anita Hill made it all up and she got that out of the book. I think that was Hatch?

[rodeodance]

48. also see this DU thread (before the 'official' threads began.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x96552

[rodeodance]

49. Hatch is really going after Dem. comments in an angry manner.

[in_cog_ni_to]

57. He always does that. He's an ass. n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

60. rodeodance!

:hi:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

51. I recused myself... after I didn't

:rofl:

[DoYouEverWonder]

55. Not required

There are no laws that require judges to recuse themselves as far as I know. It's an ethics issue.

[nickinSTL]

64. right, it's an ethics issue

which SHOULD be an issue...if his ethics are in question, he shouldn't be on the SC.

[DoYouEverWonder]

53. Talking about recusals

Misinfo - Usually recusal is not a requirement. That was Scalio's arguement why it was ok to hunt with people who had cases coming before the SC.

Sounds like Alito recuses himself when he doesn't have to, but refuses when he should.

[LizW]

58. Hatch testifying --- snore. n/t

[MsUSA]

59. hatch and his holier then thou attitude.....

can't stand that guy. :puke:

[adigal]

63. I am waiting for Hatch's "We love the Eye-talians" moment

like his "We love the Hispanics" moment during Gonzalez' hearing!

[Nimrod2005]

66. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[bigtree]

61. now flipflopping is

"integrity" for Hatch.

[Greeby]

62. Stay awake y'all, Kennedy coming up

:popcorn:

[in_cog_ni_to]

67. I can't WAIT!

Go TED!

:popcorn:

[Nimrod2005]

76. Can someone please shut this guy up?

Hatch is a moron, if he thinks he is helping Scalito out here ---- He keeps talking and talking gets more and more ridiculous

[rodeodance]

79. thanks. this is boring is many respects. canned replys!

[LizW]

65. It's obvious that the Repugs know

that the less they let this guy talk, the better. Hatch is going on and on and on and just aasking for yes or no answers, if any.

If Alito talks, there is more chance of him saying something stupid or outrageous.

So they're having him sit there like a plant.

[Nimrod2005]

68. Good point, Scalito had to interrupt Hatch, lol...funny

[LizW]

71. "You could go on and on, but..."

Enough from you Alito, let me continue my verbal fellatio.....

This is ridiculous.

[in_cog_ni_to]

72. Hatch is Grandstanding to run the clock down.

He drives me NUTS. Well, ALL of the repukes drive me nuts.;)

[brook]

78. you mean...

he isn't a 'plant'? :)

When I look at him and listen, all I can think of is how a teenager looks when they're telling you a lie and trying to put one over on you. It's a look I saw a lot of back when there were 5 teens in my household - ("his & hers").

[liveoaktx]

83. and all the questions are leading-these guys would be slapped

down in court if they asked these types of questions

[MsKandice01]

69. Could Hatch put his nose ANY further up Alito's ass?

[in_cog_ni_to]

75. no n/t

[rodeodance]

84. yuk, terrible imagery but you right.

[ecstatic]

70. So A. Spector will be the only pug to ask real questions then... nt

[converted_democrat]

73. Listening to Hatch makes my ears want to bleed..

I have to mute the TV when the pukes talk.. It drives me up a wall just listening to their crap.. I wanted to watch this whole thing in its entirety.. But I just don't have it in me.. I can't stand it..

[doublethink]

86. I tried that too .......

actually 'listening' to Hatch when it became his turn. Had to hit the mute button like a game show contestant though after about 3 seconds. Now I'll drink my coffee and read what you people are saying till Kennedy comes up. Ahhhh all is well. :)

[rodeodance]

74. Hatch is grinning like a Chershire cat.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

82. of course... it's going just like they rehearsed it...

:eyes:

He's lousy at the 'set-up'

[cascadiance]

80. Has DiFi asked him about his views on "States Secret" privilege usage?

I sent an email to her yesterday that I wanted her to quiz him on this and how he felt about this being used in court cases as it has been done in so many cases to help in this administration's coverups, since the current Supreme Court won't tell us why they aren't hearing these cases as late as the case they ruled on in this fashion yesterday...

I said that I'm now a one issue voter and will only vote for pols that will seek to have all facets of the government to give us the truth! Hope this and Alito's positions on presidential power in "adding" comments to their signing of bills will prompt her to go down this route and not just look at the abortion issue, which I also want to have prevented as well, but this is not my sole concern, and it is not just this issue that will win over other support in congress to vote against this bum.

[rodeodance]

81. His sister behind him has a smile absolutely painted on her face. I have

seen very little change in her facial expression.

[oasis]

85. CNN's gone to multi-screen because Alito's wife began squirming and

frowning when the tough questions came up.

You have a nice pic of the Capitol Hill on one screen, then there's a dandy shot of the Supreme Court bldg. Aother screen captures Orin Hatch as he's asking Alito softball questions. "Split the screen in to six different images" you can just hear the CNN director saying.:eyes:

[rodeodance]

87. Kennedy up after 15 minute break.

[rodeodance]

KICKYPOO

[rodeodance]

89. poddy break time.

[LizW]

101. :-)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

88. How long of a break?

missed it.


Kennedy up next

on edit: 15 min.


Call in CSPAN NOW!

[rodeodance]

91. 15 mins. said back at 11:20

[Skidmore]

90. I hope the Dem senators' aides follow our threads on these

types of events and can give some of our analysis back to the Senators in real time.

[bigtree]

92. Kennedy still to come

[Sydnie]

94. He's next after the break n/t

[mopaul]

95. finally, kennedy.

leahy and the two war pigs were sooooo tedious

[Pacifist Patriot]

93. If I'm not mistaken, lying to Congress is a bit of a no-no.

:puke:

[Sydnie]

98. McCain said that he would hold Italia Federici in contempt

of Congress, so there must be some rules about testifying to the congress, not to mention perjury itself.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

96. Caller brings up dissent!

Senators need to ask his opinion, it's very important to the country right now!

Very nice

[Armstead]

97. Lehey deserves kudos for using the "immigrant family" stuff

One thing the right wing likes to do is gloss over the substance of someone because they have a "great story."

In this case, they are trying to use Alito's immigrant background to make him seem "special" and eroic for overcoming the odds. A Real American Success Story.....nd by implication, to tar opponents as elitists.

At frst I thought lehey was being a bit of a blowhard by talking about his own immirant family. But then I realized he was turning the tables on Alito, by making it clear that many people have a "great story" and Alito can;t use that as a protective shield.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

99. I missed that!

Thanks

I sure wish I could use my family immigration stories to get a job. sheesh

[Viva_La_Revolution]

102. Official Alito Hearing Thread - Day 1 – Thread 3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x97502

[ncrainbowgrrl]

103. Locking-Next thread is ready

Thread #3 is over here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x97502