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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:36 PM
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Papers pick up UK torture memos as site goes dead
UK and US bloggers continue to aid in defying the Official Secrets Act by publishing former Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray's memos alleging human rights abuses were known to--and tolerated, if not sanctioned by--the US and UK governments, which were using information gleaned from torture for intelligence purposes.

The first document released by Murray consists of three telegrams that he sent to London from Uzbekistan, warning that the information gained there was derived from torture, and perhaps not as "useful" as MI6 believed. The second document is a legal analysis which argues that the use of information extracted through torture is not itself technically a violation of the UN Convention Against Torture.

RAW STORY featured links to coverage of the documents by Murray and Blair Watch earlier this week. Since that time, even more bloggers have joined in re-printing the text of the documents. RAW STORY does not have original copies, and therefore cannot confirm the documents' authenticity beyond the fact that the source is a former UK ambassador.

A mainstream breakthrough comes today, as the December 30 edition of The Independent featured a story on the documents. The Register has since followed.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Papers_pick_up_UK_torture_memos_1230.html
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:43 PM
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1. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
THAT'S how it's done, Commander-In-Chump! Cue the Vonage theme!

:woohoo:
rocknation (who contributed to the cause)
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 03:18 PM
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2. Long live The Independent!


--------------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 02:42 AM
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3. nom and a kick
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:27 AM
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4. K&R(nt)
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 06:43 AM
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5. Email from Craig.
A message from Craig Murray:

"Can I pass on my thanks to everyone who is posting the documents and making them public. You are striking a real blow for humanity and against the appalling decline in our civil liberties and standards.

We have also proved that, as long as we have good people out there, technology now makes it impossible for Western governments and political establishments to bury the truth, no matter how much they control the mainstream media." And he attaches another document, this time one that is already in the public domain, but seems pertinant to what so many of us are posting.

It is not secret, and not new, but gives a valuable historical context to the relationship between Uzbekistan and the West..



http://www.chris-floyd.com/telegrams/feed/murray.htm
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 06:45 AM
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6. Good work...
blogs getting out the truth.:thumbsup:
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 06:49 AM
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7. It has seeded everywhere.
Edited on Sat Dec-31-05 06:49 AM by dutchdemocrat
The wire services picked up this story and it's everywhere including the NYTs and all the British Press.

I am tracking the dissemination here:

http://www.chris-floyd.com/telegrams/feed/index.php?hours=-1
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 02:39 PM
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8. Thanks for your part in this success!
:yourock:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 02:44 PM
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9. has the NYT printed a story yet?
excellent job on your part dd! :)
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