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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:09 AM
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Our enemy is NOT the Republicans but rather
hypnotized drones I urge you to read this. We all have heard people quote Rush or Sean. These people are lost and we probably won't get them back. I think most when awaken to what the 'ledership' is doing to their family and their future will choose a more moderate candidate

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What we are seeing now from the far right is not conservatism at all. It is fascism: the imposition of a national and worldwide police state to enforce a narrow world view that enriches and empowers the few at the expense of the many, and that gives no respect or honor to other cultures, ways of living, or opinions. To call that conservatism is a crime against the memory of America's great and true conservatives, who might think that government ought to be less involved in life than we old liberals would concur with, but who nevertheless stood for the core American values that today's right-wing leaders undermine at every opportunity.

We Americans are not split into liberals and conservatives. In fact, if you are running for office from the center, or from left of center, just do a better job of demonstrating how far right-wing your opponent is, and you will win more and more votes. You will win them from the vast number of people, most especially urban women and professional men, who identify themselves as Republicans for old time's sake, but who are very uncomfortable when forced to look squarely at the far right positions of many candidates running under the flag of the Grand Old Party. Given moderate alternatives, they will vote for them. That was exactly the truth that Clinton understood and exploited so brilliantly. He understood that Republicans are conservatives but the Republican Party is not. If you want to reflect upon how well he exploited this insight, remember that Hillary was a Republican when he met her.

If we Americans are split into two meaningful camps, it is not conservative versus liberal. The two camps are these: the politically awake and the hypnotized -- hypnotized by television and other mass media, whose overpaid Svengalis dangle the swinging medallions of packaged candidates and oft-told lies. It is all done to politically prolong the open season on us -- open season indeed, as the billionaire takeover artists bag their catch for the day. And in their bags are our freedoms, our leisure, our health care futures, our old age security, our family time, our village life, our family-owned businesses on Main Street, the middle class itself, and our position of honor and peaceful leadership in the world.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12691.htm
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:13 AM
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1. K & R for the hypnotized.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:17 AM
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2. Go, Granny D!
K&R and sending to my list.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:32 AM
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3. Granny is right on the money
I hope someday people will get it. Will it be too late?
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:40 AM
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4. Excuse me but the republican party is exactly what T.R. said it was
becoming when he dropped out of the puke party. A party that favored special interests that had enough money to buy them. Who can forget what Hoovers trickle down economics did to the country in 1929? Pukes have a history of being against everything that made this country great. Smaller government? Never under the puke party, they want more government involved in everything except taking care of the people who aren't in the top 10%. What the pukes have been good at is fooling the masses into thinking they are behind them by spreading a message of hate and distrust. You look into the history of the puke party during the last century and its clear they have never been anything more the fear mongering, hate spreading racists. People vote puke out of fear, hate and jealousy, somebody might be getting something they feel they should be entitled to. In the 60's it was the black man taking over jobs, in the 70's it was women taking away white mens jobs, now its mexicans. The puke party and conseratives stand for one ideal only, let me get mine and screw everyone else.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:52 AM
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6. Its an interesting distinction...
I'm not sure if I fully agree with you or the OP...its true things like small government have absolutly nothing to do with homeland security coming into your home without a warrant or the huge government spending that gave us a 9 billion dollar debt. But on the other hand it seems like the conservativism always creates terrible shit, as if the good intent always crumbles in a giant turd, like communism seems to do.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:07 AM
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7. You nailed it...
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 03:09 AM by Iowa
My grandfather (born in 1897) despised republicans as much as we do. I grew up learning that the worst of the bad guys were republican politicians and the devil - in no particular order. I was taught to tolerate rank and file republicans, "for they know not what they do"... they were idiots but not necessarily bad guys. And Hoover, in his day, was probably hated more than the idiot-son is today.

What separates this new breed of repuke from the jerks my grandfather despised is 1) they decided to try to implement policies their predecessors could only fantasize about, and 2) they have been able to steal elections with the help of a corrupt SCOTUS. At the core they're the same soulless corporatist bastards they have always been. All that nonsense they spew about small government is just phony campaign sloganeering to ensnare the witless. The republicans haven't changed... the public has just dumbed down to the point where republicans believe they can push the envelope.

The republicans are every bit as much our enemy as they were in my grandfather's day.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:43 AM
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5. Washington Journal
proves the point. Every day the hypnotized call in to regurgitate their chants. Pretty scary. They still insist there are WMD's in Iraq, Iraq really did support al Queda, we must stand behind our prez for the war in Iran.

:scared:
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:31 AM
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8. While that's a good article
I totally agree about fascism in the current Government, been saying myself it since before we started seeing articles in the news about it, but as a swing voter myself there's a fairly big point that it seems to me keeps being missed.

What drives me away, and a lot of others I've talked to, is excessive partisan bickering. I can't post here without constantly defending myself since I'm not a loyalist but issues oriented instead, and I damned sure don't belong over at fr or anywhere like that.

We've got huge problems in this country, from health care to the drug war, the prison system, the war in Iraq, privacy and so on. But, as long as both sides insist that we have to attack someone, nothing ever gets solved. Worse, it doesn't even get discussed. Rather than getting into the issues themselves and how to fix them it's all about who's to blame and how we can pin it on them.

If we could manage to actually talk about a problem without the need for constant blame the solutions might be a lot closer than we think. Yeah, the drones are a problem, but maybe they turned away for a reason.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:14 PM
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9. Always keep in mind that it is not the
Republicans but rather Corporate America. This incessant need for MORE profits. Where is social responsibility to the people that but your products, the next generation, planning for long term growth, the environment? Know I KNOW that even billionaires breathe the same air I do and drink the same water.Tax cuts for the wealthiest among us is a sin when we are in two wars and the country is getting older, 40 million have no healthcare and they continue to send their jobs to other countries.
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