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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:41 PM
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Face it. We (America) are the world's crazy neighbor now.
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 06:41 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
We scare the shit out of everyone.

When we go visit, you can almost hear the whispers: "Don't upset him, he's nuts and prone to violence."

What to do to change this?

We need a lobotomy.

And 3K tons of Prozac.

I'm afraid though that it's more than just the frontal lobe that need removing. It's the entire freaking head.

We'll grow another. Hopefully a better one.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:44 PM
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1. I really wish the UN would send inspectors in and
disarm us of our nukes. We can't trust the nutjobs in charge of this country anymore. We can't be trusted with the world's mightiest military anymore. We have got to be disarmed.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:44 PM
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2. I liked "WE IS". Yes we is.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:46 PM
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6. LOL! damn! I got caught!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:44 PM
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12. You can edit but you cant hide.
that is an interesting gumbo of a name you chose for yourself mr joad.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:44 PM
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3. We are the terror nation. Until the chimp is caged, that will be our
identity.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:44 PM
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4. Unfortunately, Canada and Mexico have had to get used ...
... to a couple of centuries of this! (Okay, most of the time it's fine ... but lately, we've been suspecting "next door" of being hooked on crystal meth ...)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:45 PM
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5. That's the truth...and this was the world that came out by the millions...
...in support of us on 9/11. How Bush has squandered that legacy. Turned a zenith of solidarity into a nadir of violence, internal corruption and intolerance.

PB
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:48 PM
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8. Well, nobody's perfect...
:7

It does make me wonder when the world will decide to liberate us... :scared:
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:48 PM
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7. Yup. Pretty soon the invite to the neighborhood bbq will
be "lost in the mail".

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:51 PM
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9. Nah. We're the psychopathic serial killer child molesters in the 'hood...
... just what the electorate wanted...
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:32 PM
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10. It's humiliating
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 07:32 PM by TallahasseeGrannie
We used to be the gentle giant. Now we're a monster.

T-Grannie
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:46 PM
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13. It took me a moment...
T-Grannie! I love it!
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:24 AM
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14. Thanks, Tom
I needed something with some oomph and there's someone on the board who always teases me about T-Grannie, the fearsome reptile, so I went with it.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:35 PM
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11. it was spelled out for us 40+ years ago
America IS General Ripper in "Dr. Strangelove"
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:47 AM
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15. moron* is the kadaffi of the 21st century. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:49 AM
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16. Isn't this a lovely stigma to overcome and later be known as the
regenerated head country.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:50 AM
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17. LOL
We are that crazy Uncle or Aunt that stays locked in his or her room -- only to be let out when the children are in school and there is someone at home to supervise them :D

Oh yeah, we keep them away from houseguests, too :D
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 08:56 AM
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18. As a foreigner, even from an ally, I'll support that.
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 08:57 AM by Random_Australian
It has lead to some pretty unusual effects in places here though: Because we don't want to live in fear, we've been striking massive deals with China. The world's largest deposits of Uranium are now mined by Chinese companies for the Chinese people. Natural Gas is pumping their way too.

I should like to re-iterate the confirmation that the world does believe you're the skin of your teeth away from going batshit crazy, and randomly warring with whoever. The American unfamiliarity with geography is also a great concern.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:22 AM
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19. Actually America has not changed all that much.
The main changes are in the visibility of what is going on.

Check out non-American accounts of the war against the Philippines, 1899-1992.
That was just one of many rehearsals for the invasion of Iraq. Filipinos fighting then to get the foreign invaders out of their country were labeled insurgents, and terrible things were done to them, too.

What is much harder to find in history books anywhere is the way aid and loans given to countries have been used as a way to persuade the local governments into manipulating the economies in ways that are detrimental to the welfare of their people and beneficial to America.

America has interfered for at least the last 100 years in the politics of other countries, ousting governments who are good for their country and replacing them with greedy dictators who will do anything for America, provided they get something out of it themselves.

America has worked to make sure that all oil has to be paid for in American dollars, and having Iraq start trading oil for euros was definitely one of the reasons for invading Iraq. After WWII the American dollar was detached from gold reserves and left to float freely. Having oil all paid for with dollars meant this could work, but only for as long as there was an oil supply.

This has meant that America's most valuable trade item for the last 50 years has been American dollars. Other countries have had to trade with Americans in order to get dollars, or they could not buy oil. This has meant trades did not have to be fair, and Americans have become accustomed to having a much higher standard of living than most people in the rest of the world because of the economy being bolstered by millions of unequal trades.

Both sides of government have been the same. Once the people in power see how things have been running, they have seen that they will be hated and considered traitors if they undo the system that America has come to depend on. The biggest danger to the American governments who have been doing this has been the American people, many of whom have a deep concern for fairness and justice, and who would not like to be leeches sucking the blood from poor countries, using power to make other countries unable to look after their own.

So the kiddies are fed pro-American propaganda right through school, with anything that refers to the skeletons in America's cupboards being censored out. The media have run along the same lines, always exaggerating the good and minimizing the bad, and giving Americans the impression their country is immensely superior to the rest of the world, and that they are superior to people of other nationalities.

Once the internet became easily accessible, there seemed to be a good chance that the more intelligent, inquiring Americans would find it easier to start educating themselves and questioning their history books, as many here have been doing. But any questioning of the propaganda is dangerous to the government, who do not want to to have to try to manage the wreck that America would become if they had to suddenly stop ripping off the rest of the world.

So now the government wants to find ways of controlling the internet. They have seen how Google could censor what the Chinese were able to see on it it response to pressure on it, and there are good indications that it is doing the same in America, cutting out access to items the government does not want people to see. The difference between the photos you could see in google if you typed in hurricane Katrina and looked for images, and the ones you could find the same way on Yahoo was incredible. Google was just not showing the death and suffering in the weeks after that.

The big question is, what happens next? Can you guys here, who are the ones who must lead the way in America if anyone is going to, find a way to get information freely circulating again? Can you research history and see the implications for the future, and change the direction America has gone in for so long?

There is no deus ex machina to bring a happy end to this story.

Whether there is a god who cares, or friendly aliens keeping an eye on things is irrelevant.

The only god in this machine who we can look to for help is ourselves.
We can be, we must be, the gods in this story.

More and more people are taking the first baby steps of learning to do things they thought they couldn't. We must each work at seeing one thing we can do that will help, however small it is, and then finding more and more things we can do.

And we must support and encourage each other. We must be independent and see things for ourselves, but what we do will achieve nothing on its own. We must look after the group, and show kindness to each other. Fear and hatred are being directed against us as weapons, in an effort to shut up anyone who might be listened to.

When the times call for courage people develop courage, and Americans have plenty, but we need to nurture each other to help that courage grow, so we can take on the bastards and keep standing tall together.
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:43 AM
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21. Excellent post!
I look around me at the many people who do consider themselves superior to people of other countries (and races) and most of the time they are Republicans. They also believe the hype that "America is the Greatest Country in the World." It makes me cringe when I hear my kids or their friends repeat that mantra because they learned it in school or from television or wherever.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:56 AM
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23. A little more about the war on the Philippines.
American torture and scorched earth campaigns.

... U.S. attacks into the countryside often included scorched earth campaigns where entire villages were burned and destroyed, torture (water cure) and the concentration of civilians into "protected zones" (concentration camps). Many of the civilian casualties resulted from disease and famine. Reports of the execution of U.S. soldiers taken prisoner by the Filipinos led to savage reprisals by American forces. Many American officers and soldiers called war a "nigger killing business".

American soldiers letters and response

From almost the beginning of the war, soldiers wrote home describing, and usually bragging about, atrocities committed against Filipinos, soldiers and civilians alike.

Reporters and Red Cross accounts ...

When F.A. Blake of the International Red Cross arrived at Emilio Aguinaldo’s request, Otis kept him confined to Manila, where Otis’s staff explained all of the Filipinos' violations of civilized warfare. Blake managed to slip away from an escort and venture into the field. Blake never made it past American lines, but even within American lines he saw burned out villages and “horribly mutilated bodies, with stomachs slit open and occasionally decapitated.” Blake waited to return to San Francisco, where he told one reporter that “American soldiers are determined to kill every Filipino in sight.”

A quote from General MacArther

When I first started in against these rebels, I believed that Aguinaldo’s troops represented only a faction. I did not like to believe that the whole population of Luzon—the native population that is—was opposed to us and our offers of aid and good government. But after having come this far, after having occupied several towns and cities in succession, and having been brought much into contact with both insurrectos and amigos, I have been reluctantly compelled to believe that the Filipino masses are loyal to Aguinaldo and the government which he heads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine-American_War

http://www.filipino-americans.com/cgi-bin/redirect.cgi?url=filamwar.html

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:27 AM
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20. As your next door neighbour,I agree.
Only six short years ago,Canada had a great friend in Clinton. When you guys through the current bunch out,the earth is gonna give a big sigh of relief.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:46 AM
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22. Once again
we live in a S.K book care to guess which one-I'm sure you all know
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:07 AM
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24. I wish there was someway I could cry for help
to the international community. We're not all fucking nutz, we've been hijacked and the masses are too comfortable to do anything about it.
Hypnotized by modern conveniences charged to the future, they can't be bothered to get off their lazy asses to do something about crazy george* and his gang of sociopaths.

I'm afraid that it's going to take an outside intervention to restore us, and even then it's going to take generations to clean our reputation in the world.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:19 PM
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25. America has 1000s of nukes and won't listen to the U.N.
Reason has already been rejected, and if anyone starts using force on America we are all going to regret it.

Notice I did not say, "we will live to regret it."
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:23 PM
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26. America is the police force for transnational corporate globalists. n/t
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