If your family cheked with these people when they immigrated - check in

[HEyHEY]

I expect this thread to be very short.



OOOO, looks like we're all illegal immigrants! Ack!

[Waya]

1. Probably will be .......

[Iris]

2. Do you need a bruise to push or something!?!

You're on quite the roll today!

And to answer your question - alas, by the time my folks got here, these people were unavailable.

[Waya]

3. Unavailable.....

.....nice word for it......

[Iris]

6. I didn't mean to be glib.

hope I didn't offend!

[Waya]

8. No, you didn't offend....

;-)

[OzarkDem]

4. Demagoguery won't solve the problem

and its not a substitute for sound immigration and economic policy.

I suppose we could also ask if the ancestors of the people in your photo also asked permission before they came to the US.

BTW, I'm also a descendant of native Americans.

[Waya]

9. Who would they have asked??????

[HEyHEY]

12. Point is the "We were here first" argument holds no water

[Critters2]

15. But it made for a nice bunch of signs at yeasterday's demonstrations!

[Tikki]

5. My family were "these people"...but somewhere along....

the way a short red-haired Irishman checked in with them; hence, a long line of tiny babies born with flaming red hair.

Tikki

[xultar]

7. I'm not. My people were hostages from a foreign land.

So I'm not an immigrant by heritage I'm a hostage by heritage. :fist:

[bobbieinok]

10. recently discovered I MAY be descended from Pocahantas

truly weird

My dad's ancestors were German and Swiss, some recent (his father) and some in the early 1700s.

Many of my mother's ancestors go back to early VA, thus the possible descent from Pocahantas through Jane Bolling. (The problem lies in determining who mom's father's parents were. We can't find her father in any census; she always said that from his stories about his family they probably headed for the hills of western NC whenever they heard someone from the govt was coming.)

[Berserker]

11. Why don't you back even

further. The native Americans that were here when the white man came did not suddenly appear on the North American soil.
Homo sapiens, then the first "Human"
existed, according to current data,in Africa and/or Southwest Asia
around 115,000-96,000 years ago. Lets start at that point and move forward.
This data makes as much since as your post does.

Your little flame war post starter sucks.

[HEyHEY]

13. YOU SUCK YA SWEDISH MEATBALL!

[Shakespeare]

26. It's no less valid than some of the bullshit posts on the other side.

And I believe that is the point.

Your snide little response sucks, too.

[Critters2]

14. Two of my European ancestors married two of "these people"

who are also my ancestors. I'm guessing my two Native great-great-grandmothers were okay with my European great-great-grandfathers being here. Really okay!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. MIne sort of did

in that Squanto went to my ancestor's house and lived there for a spell. But then Stephen Hopkins liked the Massasoits and got along well with them-to the extent that he moved out of Plymouth to the Cape Cod area where he and some other Europeans hung out with them.

[SmokingJacket]

22. I'm a descendent of Stephen Hopkins...

among other folks...

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

24. Hi cousin!

:hi:

[SmokingJacket]

25. HI!

:hi:

[sproutster]

17. Nope - was bought - eskimo ya know?

[mdmc]

18. I have an ancestor that lived with Ohio indians way back in the day

before the revolution. It turns out that some of the men on my paternal grandmothers side liked Indian women.

However, in keeping with your condescending OP, my ancestors turned on the tribe that he lived with, took his wife away from the tribe, and allowed British troops to kill off the tribe. :patriot:

[NNN0LHI]

19. My maternal grandparents boarded a boat in Italy and got off in NY

That is the entire immigration process they had to go through to get here and become American citizens.

My grandmother who came here as a child died a few years ago at about 90 years old. She learned one word of english during her time here. Machine. She called cars machines.

Don

[SmokingJacket]

23. Sounds like one of my Italian great grandmothers.

Her son went to Penn State, but she insisted on calling it "The State-a Pen."

[sandnsea]

20. I actually think mine did

Mine were French, came down from Canada through the Great Lakes and settled the Mississippi Valley. Some were coureurs de bois and had to have "checked in" or they would have died. Natives may now wish they'd have run them off, but they didn't do it then.

Not that I think that makes a hill of beans difference on the immigration issue.

[BrotherBuzz]

21. Mine were checked, granted permission, and had a relationship until...

the Puritans moved in and screwed things up. Thank you, Samoset and Squanto, for the warm welcome and for taking the time to teach us what you could. Would have, could have, should have been....