I HAVE A MESSAGE TO SHARE WITH THE RIGHT WING BUT I DON'T KNOW THEIR SITES

[Jeffersons Ghost]

I want to go to the most visible and popular right-wing sites to post what appears in subsequent paragraphs but I don't know where they are. Instead of giving these places publicity, please PM me with their names. I'm not going to sneak around like freepers do at DU. I'll sign in as Jefferson's Ghost because I believe if you have to lie and con to make a point, you have no point at all. These individuals claim to be Christian but lying and tricking others does not strike me as a Christian approach.

In Alabama, instead of attacking insane political policies, many religious individuals say it signals the end of time. These misguided people seem to believe they will avoid the horrors of a allegedly predicted nuclear conflict (which is also a Scriptural stretch) through something they call "rapture." A doctrine known as "rapture of the church" did not originate from Scripture. In fact, "rapture" is not anywhere in writings of the Christian Fathers either.

Supposedly one evening in 1830, the power of the Holy Spirit rested on fifteen-year-old Miss Margaret Macdonald while she was in a state of illness at home. She was dangerously sick and thought she was dying. In spite of this (or perhaps because of it) her fevered mind came "under the power of the spirit" for several hours during which she experienced manifestations of "mingled prophecy and vision."

Many Christians believe that Rapture originated with renowned Biblical scholar John Darby but he only popularized the concept, after learning of Macdonald's visions. Scofield and others who took over Darby's mantle later helped to make the belief respectable.

As for what the Bible states regarding Christians somehow avoiding horrors at the end of time, Christians will not miss the big show according to Scripture.

Jesus said, "Father .. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil." (John 17:15)

Jesus also compared final days to the trials of Noah. (Mat.24:36-42) Did Noah pray to be taken out of the world, or did Noah prepare the ark and go through the trial that came upon the Earth? Are Christians destined to leave this planet and relinquish the Earth to the wicked? Not according to the Scriptures:

"For evil doers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon Yahweh, they shall inherit the Earth." or what's left of it. "For such as be blessed of Him shall inherit the Earth ; and they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off." (Psalm 37:9 & 22)

"For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the Earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it." (Prov.2:21,22)

The Bible teaches the exact opposite of a "church rapture" taking place! The Bible tells us that it is the wicked who will be removed by the wrath of God and what remains of the Earth shall be given to the righteous ones in Christ Jesus.

[HEyHEY]

1. Just google "Jerkoffs"

[Jeffersons Ghost]

3. LOL, now that's not nice.... but I really an laughing hard right now

[azurnoir]

7. Check Holy Coast.com

Their entry today is perfect for your subject, and try Salon.com Daou Report sort of a buffet of blogs both left and right (where I discovered DU)

[Proud_Democratt]

2. TRY........

Probush.com or Freerepublic.com

[Jeffersons Ghost]

6. should I use graphics to make my point?

[Proud_Democratt]

9. I don't know

Probush.com will ignore you.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

16. how many members could a site called probush have these days...

2 counting Laura? maybe more if his kids still like him.

[myrna minx]

4. Thank you for this post. The dispensationalists

have done so much damage to Christianity.
ON Edit:
http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/czionism.html
Dispensationalism:
Most Christian Zionists subscribe to Dispensational Premillennism, a theological approach that claims that "God relates to human beings via different covenants ("dispensations"); in particular, dispensationalists believe that God's covenant with Israel, including promises of land, continues in full force distinctive from Christianity." (Donald Wagner, SOJOURNER, July-August 2003)

Paul Beran, lecturer at Northeastern University, explains that "in dispensationalism, history is an evolving pre-ordained plan that has certain marking points." Each of these seven dispensations represents one of God's tests for man on the path toward Christian salvation.

When Israeli statehood was declared in 1948, dispensationalists considered it an important prophetic event, or as Arno C. Gaebelein, editor of OUR HOPE described it, "the sign of all signs."

Central to dispensationalism is the belief that all Israel will be saved; as theologist Stephen Sizer puts it, it is the belief "that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants will be literally instituted; and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centered on Jerusalem."

Premillenial dispensationalists believe that Christ will return prior to the millennium (or 1,000 year reign) begins. There are also post-millennialists who believe that Christ will come after the 1,000 years and amillennialists who believe that God's promises are figurative and will not be literally fulfilled.

Rapture:
This concept is from a literal interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 in which Paul says, "For the Lord himself, with a word of command, with the voice of an archangel and the trumpet of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Thus we shall always be with the Lord."

Rapture is the notion that in the last days believing Christians will be removed from the earth; it is literally explained as the time when Jesus calls the faithful to heaven and believers are physically taken up.


Further information

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/

[Felix Mala]

13. To these yahoos, Israel must be preserved at all costs...

so it can be destroyed in the Final Battle. They want to save it to destroy it, you see. It never occurs to them that "Israel" could mean lots of things other than a literal country called Israel. It could be a little town on Route 80 in Kansas....

[TexasLawyer]

14. or maybe even this place

http://www.palestine-online.org/

[Jeffersons Ghost]

20. IT IS!! I'VE HEARD OF THAT TOWN... has the Beast arrived there yet?

No, he was somewhere else blabbing about how great his screwy pick-a-drug roulette for seniors is working.

Let's all forgive him... see how sad he looks in this picture?
If the media can forgive DeLay and let him get away with acting
so spiritual all of a sudden, they can forgive a sad guy like this,
right?

[Jeffersons Ghost]

17. oh, i get it, all power brokers need to do is manipulate world events...

to coincide with prophetic Scripture and they can control the masses as they rob them blind.

[Dr. Jones]

18. I think you've nailed it.

That's exactly what Bush is doing. That's exactly why he has a cult following with the freeps.

[myrna minx]

25. Bingo.

The cynical power brokers know how to control the people through "mysticism." Off topic from the dispensationalists, but look at the choice of name for the new pope: Benedict. The name Benedict was said to fulfill a "prophecy." People found it "spooky" that he would choose this name, whereas he knew perfectly well the name contained within the Gloria Olivae "prophecy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes#Pope_Benedict_XVI_.28Gloria_Olivae.29
Gloria Olivae, glory of the olive, is the next phrase following De labore Solis. Prior to the papal conclave, this motto led to speculation that the next pontiff would be from the Order of Saint Benedict, whose symbols include the olive branch. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, elected in April 2005, is not a Benedictine, but did choose Benedict XVI as his regnal name, which might be regarded as a fulfillment of this prophecy.

[Midlodemocrat]

5. freak republic is probably the best known RW site.

Full of totally inept and stupid wingnuts. Enjoy yourself. But, take a lysol bath before you return to DU. Just some friendly advice.

[RandomKoolzip]

8. Psalm 37 - The "Yummy" Psalm.

[Shakespeare]

11. *snork*

:spray:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

23. do you mean this section?

1Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.

2For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.

Are you saying to tell them God is gonna cut them down like a lawn mower if they don't start acting right?

[Rocknrule]

10. Here's a list of RW sites:

Billionaires for Bush
ILoveKarlRove.com
American Coal Foundation
American Nuclear Society
American Petroleum Institute
Frat-Beat Panhellenic Council
Bob Jones University
Cargill Agriculture
The Carlyle Group
Dow Chemical
The Heritage Foundation
National Rifle Association
Operation Rescue
Saudi Binladen Group
St. Giles School for Male Youth
Unification Church
White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
World Trade Organization

[mcscajun]

22. I'd leave out "Billionaires for Bush" -- they're satirical street theater

not genuine supporters. :)

[Jeffersons Ghost]

24. yeah and I live in Alabama and I heard even the KKK abandoned him

immigrants, remember? Anyhow... I may form a third party to help them out... All the fundies and evangelicals have got to be sick of all their political corruption and war by now.

hmmm, let's see... here's a name with a good acronym in it for a bumper sticker...
Fundamental United Christian Klan? Then if they decide to go back Republican they could put the GOP sticker to the right of their new party's bumper sticker.

[Dr. Jones]

12. But what are you going to say when they quote

1 thessalonians 4:15-17

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I've heard this verse quoted and they swear when it says "we who are alive and remain" it means those living believers here on earth.

:shrug:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

19. that's sure a stretch! I guess I'll just ask them if they think Jesus lied

in the quotes I furnished in the OP. thanks for the warning... anything else they might hit me with?

[myrna minx]

27. Meeting the Lord in the air more than likely

means coming out to meet an honored guest at the city gates. This was a custom contemporary with time time these texts were written. Unlike today when a person takes a cab to your house from the airport, people meet their traveling friends at the gates by custom. This can be read that the followers then turn toward earth to bring Christ's return.

[TexasLawyer]

15. Blocked posts

Most of these places won't let you post or will whisk your post into oblivion within moments once you get it online.

I know this from personal experience and I didn't even say anything particularly objectionable (from the RW point of view).

[Jeffersons Ghost]

21. I'm not saying there is but maybe --

Just maybe, there are some people who call themselves Fundamental Christians at DU causing mischief Christ would not approve of, according to Scripture. Gee, I hope they don't see this and warn others. I'm kinda new at DU but I don't think that enough of those types are here to do much actual warning. Bsides they are likely too busy here if any even try that crap at DU.

[The Flaming Red Head]

26. try CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NYT, and on and on

there are so many right wing web sites i could never name them all