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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:48 AM
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Even higher gas prices = Bush's days are numbered? Or my wishful thinking?
The cash grab of this administration and their cronies just keeps getting more and more brazen. It seems like they're trying squeeze as much money out of the American public as they can before the shit hits the fan.

Ah, a girl can dream, can't she?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:51 AM
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1. Bush's poll ratings are inversely related to the
price of gas. The more it goes up, the more his ratings drop.

I see them now.....swirling in the toilet.....Flush
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:51 AM
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2. No..I think they're numbered
I think he is only going to go down from now on.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:55 AM
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3. IMHO by summer gas will be $3.50 per gallon
and Bush's ratings in the 20s
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:59 AM
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4. not wishful thinking
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 12:03 PM by Strawman
Barbara Bush and a big chunk of the public may have not had to worry their "beautiful minds" over all those flag draped coffins at Dover Air Force Base, but now the greed and ineptitude of this cabal is biting them right in the ass and they're noticing. They are not happy.

My local sports talk radio station has been going on about gas prices for an hour. I've never heard anything like it on that station. Talk of gas being at $3.20 this summer. Talk of gas costing as much as a second car payment each month for people who commute to work in their cars (we have very limited public transportation in Detroit). Alot of people simply can't afford this. These aren't poor people. These are middle class people.

When politics can supplant sports like that for people who don't attend to politics and there is near universal outrage, something major is going on.

If gas hits $3.30 this summer, the 2006 election is unfuckupable for the Democrats.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:57 PM
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14. Of all the issues, this is the one that will flip
the freepers. My Bush-lovin' coworker angrily ripped his "W" sticker off his SUV after the last gas hike a few months ago. They may not care about women's civil rights over our own bodies, or the environment, or the huge deficit. And they're still convinced we're "spreading democracy" in the Mideast.
But once they have to forego another six-pack or a trip to the nudie bar cause Dubya and his oil henchmen need even more obscene profits, well, that's when freeperman starts flipping out.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:00 PM
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5. Don't forget
two weeks after the Repuke controlled House and Senate voted for "relief" to the major oil companies (after Katrina) and Bush signed off on it, they announced . . .















wait for it . . .









RECORD PROFITS!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:04 PM
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6. When gas goes up, everything else pretty much does too
Gas is an economic staple. Trouble is, the average everyday working Joe and Jane get double whammied. We're paying higher prices to fill our gas tanks, and businesses have to raise their prices against increased transportation costs in order to maintain profit margins. :banghead:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:35 PM
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10. Food costs more as a consequence
of the increase in gasoline prices.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:36 PM
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11. Yup! n/t
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:53 PM
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13. Yep. Just heard a produce guy talking about how much this costs him
on the radio. Like fresh produce, meat, poultry, fish that has to be delivered daily to your grocer? Tack on some more money to your monthly grocery bill then.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:50 PM
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17. Sometimes people don't notice the connection
to the supermarket. I buy vegetables at a farmer's market (when I can), and the trucks are parked right there. It makes it inescapably obvious that when gasoline prices go up, food prices go up.

When a gallon of gasoline goes up, people talk about it mostly in terms of their cars. Very few people mention the flow through costs.

A neighbor called me to complain that the fuel surcharge on her rent bill was double what it was the year before. I told her that the year before, a barrel of oil was about $35. This year, it was about $65. When the oil prices were rising, she hadn't forseen the impact on her personal wallet. (She doesn't drive, doesn't buy home heating oil directly, etc.) We all pay. We don't always connect the dots to know why we are paying more.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:11 PM
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32. Yes, in fact there was a column in our local business section today
In that section, an economist let on that (you'll NEVER guess) higher energy prices might be causing higher food prices!!

Amazing, I tell you - amazing!!

:eyes:
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:45 PM
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18. Thankfully our local news just did a story about this
Hopefully, people are paying attention and taking notes.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:05 PM
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7. They Are Robbing Us Blind Because They Know We Can't Stop Them
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 12:07 PM by AndyTiedye
They don't even try to hide it anymore.


Wishful thinking, probably, but keep it up as long as you can.
It's got to be better than getting depressed about it like me.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:07 PM
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8. I think his days are numbered...
He has two and a half years before he steps aside so Diebold can install John McCain to continue his war mongering. Nothing will happen to him before that.

Of course, I could be wrong. Lord help me, I hope I'm wrong.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:23 PM
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9.  Exxon/Mobil'd CEO makes $13,700 an hour
Doesn't that make you feel all warm & fuzzy inside while you're paying $2.78 per gallon?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:49 PM
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I wish I was paying $2.78 a gallon.
I've been paying up to $3.23 in Southern Calif. lately.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:15 PM
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26. Ouch!
I guess $3.23 is in our immediate future too.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:49 PM
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19. Dupe
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 07:49 PM by LibDemAlways
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:39 PM
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12. Indeterminate
Statisticians know that gas prices correlate closely to the consumer confidence polls. They haven't yet (that I know of) demonstrated a link to political questions.

A very smart man once said, "It's the economy, stupid!" This allowed him to beat Smirky's dad. But there wasn't a war in the mix then, nor a well-connected manufacturer of corruptable voting machines.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:18 PM
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15. Spot on!
It's a shame that something like an illegal war won't bring Bush into the 20's. But high gas prices? You bet your ass.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:27 PM
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16. Ever higher gas prices
mean a lot more than Bush being disliked.

Unless you subscribe to the oil company conspiracy to control prices for elections.

I subscribe to we're running out of cheap energy as demand climbs ever higher.

I think the problems are far bigger, and go much deeper, than a clique interested in power.
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mobyss Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:53 PM
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20. I don't understand the "official" DU position on gas prices
On the one hand, the common position seems to be "big thirsty SUVs driven by greedy Americans cause global warming, etc"

But on the other hand, I see lots of postings about how high gas prices are hurting Americans, that in essence we are ENTITLED to low gas prices, so that our way of life can go on unimpeded.

Which is it - cheap gas and big SUVs or expensive gas and small cars and paying more for everything?

For the last 50 years we've been protecting the Saudis and everything that has come from that, so that America can live "high off the hog". From WWII on.

Maybe if gas prices keep going up, people will actually begin to conserve, and some of these endless pollution/war/etc cycles can be broken.

But oh no - as soon as gas tops $2.50 a gallon, most of DU is screaming along with the rest of the SUV-driving, mall-cruising, fast-food drive-thru crowd - "WHERE'S MY G0D-GIVEN RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF CHEAP GAS?"
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:01 PM
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22. You make good points. Trouble is our wages hasn't raised as
fast as gas...
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:20 AM
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33. Well, the quick answer is "DU" doesn't have an "official" position
Welcome to DU :hi:
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4freethinking Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:57 PM
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21. Put it this way
at the rate the Bush regime is pushing events transportation wise this country will look like communist China 25 years ago. The upside will be more people will be getting more exercise if they still have a job.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:07 PM
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23. the Chimperor's days are numbered
but the slime that hatched him are alive and well and working around the clock.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:10 PM
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24. Prices will go down in Sept or Oct, just like they did in 2004
And then skyrocket again
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:10 PM
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25. Dpends on how high gas prices go.
I think people will grumble, but generally tolerate $3.00-3.50 a gallon for gas. Now if it goes over $4.00 a gallon like I think it will, the GOP is fucked in November and *'s approval rating will drop into the mid-20's.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:17 PM
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27. Like they said in Spinal Tap: money talks, bullshit walks
I guess this administration has taken those words a little too literally.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:49 PM
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28. I think it's sad most people only react when their pockets start hurting
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 08:51 PM by Julius Civitatus
Sometimes the attitude of Mr. Joe Sixpack truly baffles me:

  • They lie to start a war under false pretenses... whatever!

  • They out a CIA agent to spite a critic... too complicated.

  • They steal another election with every dirty trick in the book... who cares?

  • They perform unathorized spying of American citizens.... probably bad folks.

  • They authorize the brutal torture and rape of prisoners in Abu Grahib... not my problem.

  • They give your tax dollars to rich donors... maybe that trickles to me one day.

But the price of oil increases by a dollar....

NOW WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE! Impeach Bush before I have to sell my precious SUV!!!!

:banghead:
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:57 PM
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29. I'm Doing Okay Right Now...
...but I remember how bad I had it when GWB's father was in. I had so little hope for my economic future that I considered suicide. I am pretty lucky at the moment; I know that. But I haven't forgotten how scared I felt before. This is why I want GWB out of there. I know I could lose what I have at any moment because of the complete lunatic we have as President.

Tammy
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:02 PM
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30. Gas up 10 cents since yesterday.
Yesterday, self-serve premium was $2.75 9/10...This afternoon $2.85 9/10. YIKES. I am very worried about prices this summer.
Oh, and mortgage interest rates are going up again tomorrow.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:09 PM
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31. Blood......
from a turnip.
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