Do illegal Immigrants Vote?

[seattlemetal]

how are they able to do that?

[htuttle]

1. No

They aren't. Legally.

[seattlemetal]

3. I've got a rightie saying the Dems benefit from them voting....

[htuttle]

4. Tell them they're drunk

If they're not drunk, they must be mighty stupid.

:shrug:

[mdmc]

11. once they become legal, we will have em votin with us

against Rep. King and the GOP 4437. They will be the new pillar of the dem party.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. AND NATURALIZED

don't forget the NATURALIZED part

[mdmc]

24. ok

that is part... legal to vote...

[damntexdem]

25. It has already changed some of the politics of Orange County, CA.

Rightwingers can find it tougher going there.

[mdmc]

27. didn't know this...

peace and low stress

[RagingInMiami]

2. They don't vote

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[htuttle]

10. Looks like Propaganda

Smells like Bullshit.

[mdmc]

14. exactly.

the illegals are here to earn income. voting jeopardizes their ability to earn. :patriot:

[RagingInMiami]

16. You know where I stopped reading ...

"American's most precious liberty, voting, is being rapidly undermined by illegal aliens."

If you're going to start blaming our current voting demise on illegal immigrants -- and not on the republican computer voting machines -- then perhaps you are on the wrong political forum.

[jwirr]

29. Yeah, by the illegal alien in the WH.

[vickitulsa]

30. I never read RW crap, for obvious reasons. So I made myself

read all the way through this legitimate-appearing article just to see what "the other side" is saying (and perhaps gauge how well their propaganda machines are working).

I had no idea the Rwingnuts actually claim that they are being persecuted by the left! Doesn't it occur to them that such a premise would hardly make sense to anyone with even the smallest functioning brain?

Maybe I've just been a liberal too long, but if I can see so many glaring inane claims in just one freeper article, wouldn't the average apolitical American citizen notice at least a few of them too?

Boggles the mind, that the RW expects anyone to believe the stuff they write....

And I guess the sad commentary on THAT situation is the fact that so many DO~!
:argh: :banghead: :puke:

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. In some ways that that is the usual crap

that many in the right wing hand on to.

Do Illegal Aliens or for that matter LEGAL RESIDENT ALIENS vote? No... that is illegal.

That said, do some of these folks break the law and do it anyway? Possibly yes... do some of them rob banks? Yes, do some of them counterfeit money, yet, do some of them deal drugs, yes... see a pattern here? About five percent of any population will commit crimes, they are the ones that don't play well with others. Does this happen to be the case around the world? Absolutely. But the right wing will use these examples, some of which say POSSIBLY Illegal Aliens... (the fair story referred to in the site) and say Illegals want to vote... why would 95% of them wish to call attention to themselves from the authorities?

Do NATURALIZED Citizesn vote? Absolutey every election in my case. And since I do have an accent my right to vote is challenged regularly. I carry my US Passport to prove I can vote these days.

Oh and I do not live in a backward rural area of the country either. As an immigrant I think I'd rather stay in an urban area, thank you.

[maddezmom]

5. No, but legal immigrants do

:hi:

[seattlemetal]

12. Sorry, typo

[Deep13]

13. Not unless they are naturalized.

Only citizens may vote. Unless, of course, they live in Cleveland, Miami or Orlando, in which case only white citizens can vote. :mad: (Unless they are elderly, Jewish Buchanan voters.)

[maddezmom]

15. true enough, thanks for the correction

:)

[sce56]

7. No they don't!

Of Course we vote and have to wonder weather are vote is properly counted!

[Deep13]

8. Can't rule out occasional voter fraud, but...

...one is required to be a U.S. citizen to vote here. Resident aliens may not vote so illegal aliens cannot.

Doesn't matter. Diebold has already decided who will win.

[mdmc]

9. only if they are registered to vote

:shrug:
most don't. most would not like to draw additional attention to their life in the USA.

[Deep13]

18. Side note: illegal aliens are counted for census purposes.

So are all lawfully present foreign nationals. While foreigners cannot decide who represents them in Congress, their presence decides how much representation their states get. This might explain the shift in Congressional and electoral college representation to the South without a corresponding shift to the left which usually accompanies increased urbanization and ethnic diversity. This might help explain why the House and the executive are so much more reactionary than the Senate which is not effected by census.

[Balbus]

20. In Arizona it is a popular, yet unprovable, belief that the votes

cast by illegal immigrants actually swayed the last gubernatorial race. Hence one of the major motivating factors for Proposition 200.

[wiley]

21. No, but legal immigrants pay taxes and can't vote

unless they become citizens. Unless they become citizens, they don't ever see SS benefits either.

[Ms. Clio]

22. So why did you edit out your link?

And what is that smell?

[damntexdem]

23. No.

But family members and friends who are U.S. citizens can and do. And after becoming citizens, they will be able to vote.

A large number of people at the massive rallies are U.S. citizens and do vote.

[WoodrowFan]

26. they used to be able to vote

During the 19th century in many location immigrants (no legal, illegal then) could vote if they promised that they intended to become US citizens in the future.

[Mrspeeker]

28. No but electronic voting machines do

for them and you and me its total freedom and democracy and victory oh and patriotic and we are having elections in iraq. I emphasize the WE are having elections in iraq because we can do the election here for iraq. Its a great plan, well not we but the electronic voting machines could guesstimate and along with the exit polls which there wont be any because we will do this all at Cheneys secret Diebold voting bunker, could fairly project the elections in iraq and elect Bernard Karick as prime minister to the new Taser Iraq government. Oh and I call it Taser Iraq now because they bought the name, along with Wrigley Field which is now Taser field!

[Moderator]

31. Locking

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