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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:23 AM
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DU this Poll regarding a true US Patriot...
Cross post from an LBN post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2220949&mesg_id=2220949


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2006/04/11/s1b_oath_0411.html

Councilman refuses oath over Iraq war


TEQUESTA — Basil E. Dalack so strongly believes the war in Iraq is illegal, he's willing to give up his office over it.

Dalack, an appellate lawyer who recently won a seat on the Tequesta Village Council, is refusing to take the oath of office because it requires him to "support, protect and defend" the federal and state governments. To him, that's the equivalent of "blind support" of the war and of Bush administration policies. If Dalack took the oath, he says, he'd have "the blood of all those Iraqi and American kids on my hands."

Dalack, 76, filed a lawsuit in federal court Friday alleging that the oath violates the Constitution by placing a "prior restraint" on his right to free speech and denying him, without due process, occupancy of his elective office.

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"No citizen of the Unites States should be required to swear to support the government, which is the (Bush) administration," said Dalack, who served in the Army in Korea during the Korean War. "Those kids in Iraq died only because of George Bush, and I will not swear to support a government with immoral and unlawful policies."




check out this Poll:



What do you think of Mr. Dalack's stance?

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I agree with his views completely. 45.22% 71

I disagree with his views on Iraq but support his right to refuse an oath he doesn't believe in. 4.46% 7

He shouldn't run for office if he doesn't stand behind our federal government 100 percent. 50.32% 79



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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:26 AM
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1. Done...
47-47 agree disagree, with the rest saying I don't agree but he has the right to resign.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:27 AM
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2. 50.83% agree with his views completely! WOOOOHOOO! n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:29 AM
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3. K&R!!!!!! Bravo Mr. Dalack!!!!! eom
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:29 AM
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4. 52%
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:31 AM
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5. "support, protect and defend" does not have to mean "support Iraq."
I would take that oath, but in these times, protecting our federal government (to me) would mean doing things like advocating impeachment for Bush, or actively resisting most of what the executive and legislative branches are doing these days, etc.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:31 AM
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6. 53.85%
Go DU!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:32 AM
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7. oath requires him to support the Government, vs the Constitution?
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 11:32 AM by electropop
If so, it's a flawed oath. And of course, if it's a real 'bible' oath, that's another flaw. SHould be an affirmation.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:34 AM
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8. On a different note, the fact that it is necessary to qualify
the word patriot with 'true' should remind everyone of the proliferation of faux 'patriots'.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:34 AM
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9. Done. 54.76% agree with him
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GaDemo Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:37 AM
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12. Done
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:35 AM
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10. Still 40% don't think he should have run for office.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:36 AM
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11. Even our soldiers swear to support the Constitution, not the Gov't
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:38 AM
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13. 57% support now n/t
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:40 AM
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14. Looks like DU turned the tide and gave him the support


agree with his views completely. 58.55% 137
I disagree with his views on Iraq but support his right to refuse an oath he doesn't believe in. 4.70% 11
He shouldn't run for office if he doesn't stand behind our federal government 100 percent. 36.75% 86
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:40 AM
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15. K&R
I agree with his views completely. 58.65% 139
I disagree with his views on Iraq but support his right to refuse an oath he doesn't believe in. 4.64% 11
He shouldn't run for office if he doesn't stand behind our federal government 100 percent. 36.71% 87
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:43 AM
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16. Done
You know the government works for us otherwise there is no point in having a government so requiring him to "support, protect and defend" the federal and state governments is wrong he should be supporting and defending us! the people the established this government in order to form a more perfect union!

He is 100% right!
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Flirtus Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:44 AM
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17. almost 60% - Keep Voting!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:11 PM
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18. done
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:13 PM
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19. Done. Hit 60%
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:14 PM
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20. Done
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:17 PM
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21. God, a politician with integrity. Now, how do we get him to run for Prez?
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:21 PM
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22. 61.66%.
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:25 PM
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23. DONE
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:11 PM
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24. Now that's something you don't see every day!
Someone from my state who's not an annoying person in politics, like Jebthro, KKKatherine Hairass, sMel Martinez, and on and on. And Matt Fudge and Man Coutler, please move somewhere ELSE!

Lu
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 04:06 PM
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25. 48.41%
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 05:54 PM
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26. 51 percent think that if you don't support all the federal gov policies
you shouldnt run for office. holy fuck what a bunch of nazis.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:15 PM
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27. needs help: 42.24
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:53 AM
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28. needs help
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:58 AM
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29. Done...needs help.
I agree with his views completely. 40.54% 347


I disagree with his views on Iraq but support his right to refuse an oath he doesn't believe in. 9.11% 78


He shouldn't run for office if he doesn't stand behind our federal government 100 percent. 50.35% 431
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:13 AM
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30. Done, but needs major help.
What do you think of Mr. Dalack's stance?
I agree with his views completely. 40.78% 367
I disagree with his views on Iraq but support his right to refuse an oath he doesn't believe in. 9.00% 81
He shouldn't run for office if he doesn't stand behind our federal government 100 percent. 50.22% 452
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:25 AM
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31. done n/t
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:29 AM
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32. A 50:50 split now
If you add up the first two categories - agree with him completely and agree with him over Iraq - it makes 50%.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:59 AM
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33. Done.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:06 AM
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34. Done, but needs DU's help... n/m
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Bruce McAuley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:09 AM
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35. Done, at 43.78% total support now.
N/T

Bruce
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:38 AM
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36. strange graph
even though almost half completely agree with him, the graph showed that to be a tiny
part of the whole. rather a skewed message.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:54 PM
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37. voted
:kick:
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:49 PM
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38. Done. This guy needs more help...
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 07:53 PM by Iowa
587 (46.92%) Agree with him

86 (6.87%) "I disagree with his views on Iraq but support his right to refuse an oath he doesn't believe in."

578 (46.2%) "He shouldn't run for office if he doesn't stand behind our federal government 100 percent."
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