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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:40 AM
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VIDEO OF AN UNDERGROUND DETONATION (MUST SEE)
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 08:45 AM by berni_mccoy
http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/library/media-gallery/video/testing/project-sedan-3.wmv

First, this is a 100Kt blast, but it's 1000 FEET underground. Our bunker busters are going to be detonating (far) less than 100 feet.

From here you can see the results of low Kt yield blasts at 1000 feet reaching the surface: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=900238&mesg_id=900238

But the compelling video above will be more indicitive of a low-yield blast less than 100 feet under the surface...

Given the fact that Depleted Uranium dust from the Gulf and Iraq wars is reaching the UK (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=900238&mesg_id=902184), one can only imagine the radiation distribution of B61 blasts ranging from 0.3Kt to 340Kt in Iran.

The U.S. would not only be breaking international law, but it would be exposing most of Europe and the Middle East and parts of Asia to high levels of radiation.
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:43 AM
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1. Thanks, I lost the URL
of a nice library of nuclear explosions.

Then again, maybe that's not such a bad thing.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:08 AM
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2. People NEED to be REMINDED of what USING NUKES MEANS
This will bring about more devastation than people can imagine... TENS if not HUNDREDS of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:29 AM
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4. Amen berni_mccoy, amen! n/t
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:26 AM
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3. They would be exposing Islamic countries and people to fallout.
And for them, that is not a problem.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:30 AM
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5. Not just the Middle East...
Most of Europe and parts of Asia as well.

I have a hard time believing Europe will not move to stop such an attack by the U.S.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:34 AM
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7. This link shows the fallout spreading from Iran, to Afghanistan, Pakistan.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:33 AM
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6. fyi - you may not get the response you expect to this thread
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 09:34 AM by FLDem5
because it seems to mirror one that is already on the front page. Yours has much more info - I am just letting you know.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:38 AM
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8. There's a difference between seeing a graphic animation and
The real thing...

Plus this video highlights that EVEN 1000 FEET UNDERGROUND, a blast can reach the surface.

Iran will be full of Mushroom Clouds... the very thing that BushCo used as an image of fear against our own people... are we going to allow him to do this to another country?!?!?!



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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:42 AM
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9. Oh I know - your thread is very cool
but I almost didn't check it out because I thought it was the same thing.

Thanks for the great info!
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:44 AM
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10. Here is a Telegraph graphic that explains some of this info:


In fact, in order to prevent a 1 kiloton blast from breaching the surface, it would have to be detonated at least 1000 feet down. The deepest a penetrator has ever gotten was 18 feet of rock, and in fact it is physically impossible for a weapon made of even the strongest materials known to man to go deeper than 90 feet, the forces on it would be just too great.

So, a 1 kiloton bomb detonated the deepest it such weapons have been able to penetrate would generate 60,000 tons of extremely radioactive fallout. But notice how deep such a weapon would actually be able to destroy a bunker: 80 feet. In other words if the bunker is buried under at least 100 feet of rock, even a 1 kiloton blast won't be able to destroy it.

So the only realistic use of these weapons would be to target the bunker entrances, with the goal being to block the entrance tunnels. Of course a determined enough nation could just dig new tunnels, but that would take time.
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