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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:32 PM
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Will Wilson sue Bush in civil court? Can he do it?
Isn't it true that Paula Jones' suit against Clinton paves the way for civil suits against standing presidents? What will happen if Wilson sues Bush? Will it get that ugly? Will Fitz. have to hand over transcripts to Wilson attonrneys if there's a civil suit? Will the whole cabal have to testify under oath? Will it bring them down? Can I hope?

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April 9, 2006 — In an exclusive interview on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," former U.S. ambassador Joe Wilson called upon the White House to "come clean" and release the transcripts of prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's interviews with President Bush and Vice President Cheney in the CIA leak investigation.

Wilson, whose wife's secret employment by the CIA was revealed following the leak of classified intelligence information, insisted, "I think it is long past time for the White House to come clean on all of this."

When asked whether or not Wilson and Valerie Plame, his wife, intend to file a civil suit against the White House, the former ambassador replied, "We're holding keeping all options open at this point."

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/Politics/story?id=1823028&page=1
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:34 PM
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1. Spank Me!
Now that would be one worth sticking around for. We can hope.
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:34 PM
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2. as a result of the paula jones case presidents can be sued and forced
to give discovery in civil cases.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:52 PM
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18. Can we have them inspect Bush's penis for leaks...
AFter what they did to Bill, I think it is only fair.
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:01 PM
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19. unlike the clinton jones matter, the substance of the suit would actually
deal with execution of Bush' job.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:35 PM
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3. Keeping all options open...
A page from the Chimperor's play book;)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:36 PM
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4. While he could,
he would appear to have a much stronger case against others. For example VP Cheney, Scooter, and Rove.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:38 PM
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5. Except Bush sorta kinda confessed to leaking
Seems like he needs to talk to Harriet Miers.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:39 PM
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6. To leaking the NIE.
Wilson would have no grounds to suing Bush for declassifying the NIE. It would be thrown out within 15 seconds of a judge seeing it.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:47 PM
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12. He sure is a slippery one
In the civil case, wouldn't they simply be trying to prove that the actions of all involved (including Bush) were taken to retaliate against Wilson through outing his wife? Or is Bush the only one who doesn't have to worry? Seems like if one can show a pattern of conspiracy, if it clearly seems to have caused harm, threatened Plame's livelihood, she has a strong case.

I at any rate condemn Bush in the court of public opinion.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:55 PM
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15. Anything is possible.
What I believe we are seeing now is a conflict between the Bush/Rove camp, and the Cheney/Libby camp. The more pressure that is applied to Libby, hence Cheney, the more they will point a finger towards Bush. I'm not disagreeing with what you know -- because the table is beginning to turn on George Bush, and he is clearly more involved than most people anticipated the investigation revealing. But we are not there .... yet.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:40 PM
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7. What's the statute of limitations?
And what would the exact civil charge be?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:45 PM
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10. for war crimes, crimes against humanity and treason? none.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:46 PM
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11. For Wilson's civil suit.
priceless.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:53 PM
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14. re reply #9. I dont think a civil suit is going to be allowed against bush
I think the scotus will stop it if noone else does.
it will be justified by some bullshit similar to bush v gore.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:57 PM
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16. Very Special One-time Performance
No precedents set, no precedents followed. Just blatant "Vafanculo" to the American people.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:43 PM
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8. He'd pardon himself and he'd stay the course. n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:45 PM
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9. what the scotus allowed to be done to clinton they will not allow
to be done to bush.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 07:50 PM
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13. John Dean on A Wilson civil suit:
"Valerie Plame has several potential civil causes of action. If she files a civil lawsuit and starts taking depositions, the dynamics of unraveling the matter will also change ..."(Worse Than Watergate; page 174) Dean noted that journalists would have to testify in a civil suit, something that has already happened in the grand jury hearings. Dean again lists a civil suit by Plame as one avenue to get to the truth of the leaking on the following page.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:30 PM
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17. let the threads unravel like a ball of yarn in a kitten's paws!!
Anticipation...
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