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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:48 AM Original message |
what if tobacco became an illegal substance like marijuana? |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not too far from the truth |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. Then we'd be creating millions more criminals. |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. right, millions of pot smokers have been imprisoned |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
104. How many deaths have been reported from smoking Marijuana? |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
99. They need to fill up those concentration camps |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. Then there will be a lot of black market money to be made |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. Even though I religiously avoid smoking... |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. Not going to happen |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
111. That and all the $$ cigarette manufacturers donate to elections. |
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SiobhanClancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
7. I don't think it will happen any time soon... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. Smokers would not be ostracized. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'm glad we don't control all three branches of government.... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. You are right about that |
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Batgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
50. but it's for our own good! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You Don't Need A Prescription To Buy Beer, Do You? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Once a gain, you are right, hear, hear! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Well, We Are Stomping It Out, A Little At A Time |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Our national Anthem has to change... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. No, but can you imagine the doctor visit for that? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
110. Tobacco will never be outlawed but smoking in public is doomed. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. But tobacco is already controlled and regulated like alcohol |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. i edited my subject line |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Possibly the funniest thing I've read on DU. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Bingo! |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Make McDonald's patrons get doctors prescriptn, and what about donuts? |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. Study what happened during Prohibition. |
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flamingpie2500 (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. the only difference right now is you can still legally possess cigarettes. |
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emald (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. I am all for that idea |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. If it did... |
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Cults4Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
95. ... and that is the long and short of it. However without additives your |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. No buzz no buy n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
15. It already is becoming an 'illegal' substance |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. hallalujia! |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I can't stand the smell of hot dogs; it literally can make me puke |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You're projecting. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. What am I projecting? A little rationality? |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. In Fact. . . |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
103. That sounds about right. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. You're a little soft on your facts. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. See the post above for the latest about second-hand smoke |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. "An irritant, yes, but not a killer in and of itself. " |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. So you are calling me a liar now? And a fool? |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Uh, if smoke irritates your asthma and other paranoid diseases so badly |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. You're right, I have to be careful where I go. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
100. The post cited was from a scientist on that study. |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. You're exactly the reason that the democrats don't win elections |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Eating hotdogs isn't normal either, and I too hate the smell of them |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. "not normal" = intentionally poisoning oneself for no reason. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. It's not normal if I want to mainline battery acid... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Fine, don't exhale. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. I'm so tired of this idea of a perfectly regulated society |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Perfectly?! |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. So then I take it you would have no problem with chewing tobacco? |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. If you're talking about second hand smoke, you ARE talking about |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
92. How are you going to keep your body clean and smoke-free? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
102. I don't think you should have any problem with SHS |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
76. Which is why I don't eat hotdogs! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
80. Garlic and onions...when I was pregnant, made me SO SICK |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
81. And they're not exactly a health-food, either |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Calif. has banned public indoor smoking for a decade, BUT some bars... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. The problem that has created is the smokers now have to be outside |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. Well the "outside" smoke is trivial to avoid, like parking lot car fumes. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
89. Some bars have designated outdoor smoking areas in the back |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. Glad to see you made it over to this thread! |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. No one chooses to smoke. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. People are very defensive about their addictions |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I was play golf in a restaurant... |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. Heres what I think about addled brains: |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Yeah! |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. BUT make it a restaurant option, case by case DEMOCRATIC choice. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Fine with me so long as they ban bars |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Good post; well said!! |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Smoking kills 8 to 10x as many Americans as DUI per CDC. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. When the numbers on alcohol related deaths are reported |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. Give me a heavy smoker over a heavy drinker any day.... n/t |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
105. You're right again. Comparing smoking deaths to DUI deaths is |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
19. exploring that as well |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
23. Make fat people a controlled substance, too |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
24. What if???????? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
30. People would live longer. We'd pay billions less for public health care. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. We should hand it all over to the Indians |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
94. "We'd pay billions less for public health care." |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
36. since either is illegal, why not just light up a joint at olive garden? |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
39. I don't think anybody is advocating that |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
97. Why can you not accept that some people may want to go to a |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. How many times do you need to hear this? |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
41. Not even close... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. I'd laugh my ass off |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
55. Far too many people are in jail because of pot.... |
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oneoftheboys (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
57. You make a good point. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Right about that, you are. And welcome to DU! |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
64. Said my peace, sick of this topic. |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
88. Peace to you too ~ |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. Asbestos powder coats our roads, and we inhale them daily. NO JOKE |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
106. Actually asbestos has not been used in brakes or clutches for |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Actually, semi-metalic pads and shoes WILL have asbestos. They lie.. |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
108. Here's some web site ref's on asbestos showing up... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
74. Well, then pot smokers and tobacco smokers could unite and overthrow |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
96. LOL...I love how you think! |
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TimeChaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
77. I think I've come to a compromise on the smoking issue in my mind |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. just don't patronize smoking establishments |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Oh stop it! Why should THEY have to be responsible for where they go? |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. LOL, Good One! |
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TimeChaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. If only "whining" made the asthma go away. |
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TimeChaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Sorry, |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. I don't mind not smoking in restaurants. It's the BARS that ticks me off |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
83. Prohibition would create far more problems than it would solve |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
85. Then we could finally fill all of those new jail cells we've built. |
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StraightDope (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
90. If tobacco was criminalized... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
93. SACRED SUBSTANCE |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
98. When it comes to smoking bans, I'm pro-choice. |
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