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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:02 PM
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Freepers Defend Bush: "Plame wasn't Covert"
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:28 PM by rpgamerd00d
Freeper:
"The people who actually wrote the statute disagree with the judge and BSNBC.

The legal requirement is not "covert work overseas" but a "permenant station overseas in a covert operation." She doesn't meet that requirement. The statute requires that the CIA be "taking active measures to conceal her employment;" they obviously weren't doing that when a reporter managed to confirm her employment with the CIA with a simple telephone call.

Sorry. Not covert."

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Really?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/

The CIA Leak: Plame Was Still Covert

Feb. 13, 2006 issue - Newly released court papers could put holes in the defense of Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, in the Valerie Plame leak case. Lawyers for Libby, and White House allies, have repeatedly questioned whether Plame, the wife of White House critic Joe Wilson, really had covert status when she was outed to the media in July 2003. But special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald found that Plame had indeed done "covert work overseas" on counterproliferation matters in the past five years, and the CIA "was making specific efforts to conceal" her identity, according to newly released portions of a judge's opinion. (A CIA spokesman at the time is quoted as saying Plame was "unlikely" to take further trips overseas, though.) Fitzgerald concluded he could not charge Libby for violating a 1982 law banning the outing of a covert CIA agent; apparently he lacked proof Libby was aware of her covert status when he talked about her three times with New York Times reporter Judith Miller. Fitzgerald did consider charging Libby with violating the so-called Espionage Act, which prohibits the disclosure of "national defense information," the papers show; he ended up indicting Libby for lying about when and from whom he learned about Plame.

The new papers show Libby testified he was told about Plame by Cheney "in an off sort of curiosity sort of fashion" in mid-June—before he talked about her with Miller and Time magazine's Matt Cooper. Libby's trial has been put off until January 2007, keeping Cheney off the witness stand until after the elections. A spokeswoman for Libby's lawyers declined to comment on Plame's status.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:03 PM
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1. That's the best their small,undeveloped brains can do
...do not pick on the weak and insane!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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2. Then why have they been having a hearing on that
established fact??????
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:08 PM
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12. Brewster Jennings was a "Covert CIA Operation".
Whether V.Wilson aka V. Plame was covert at the time of her outing as a CIA Employee is not as relevant as the exposure of Brewster Jennings. In my view the deliberate exposure of Brewster Jennings was an act of Treason.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:18 PM
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18. I agree, Disturbed. And you have to wonder about this time-line:
July 14, 2003: Plame outed, by Novak.

July 18, 2003: David Kelly (Brits chief WMD expert, who had been whistleblowing to the BBC about the "sexed up" pre-war intel) found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances. His office and computers are searched.

July 22, 2003: Brewster-Jennings, the entire CIA counter-proliferation program, 20 years in the making, outed (also by Novak), disabling all projects, and putting all of its covert agents and contacts around the world at great risk of getting killed.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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3. Plame wasn't covert and there WERE WMDs. Nothing new in Freeperville. nt
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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4. Here's a meme that was decimated LONG ago...
...by Fitz himself. Keep grasping at those straws, freeps...:eyes:
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:10 PM
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13. Got a link handy?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:12 PM
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16. Google is your friend...
:hi:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:05 PM
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5. Faux said she wasn't covert. That's good enough for freeps.
I can't believe they still report that.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:05 PM
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6. then why the hell do we have a special prosecutor???????? n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:05 PM
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7. Ah, sheeesh, ya know what?
The special prosecutor has determined otherwise.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:06 PM
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8. Thats a losing battle!!!
so sad!!!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:06 PM
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9. The reason that they defend the traitor is that are traitors themselves.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:06 PM
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10. Plame was under Non-Official Cover. She was on The NOC List...
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:08 PM by IanDB1
You remember The NOC List...



from the movie Mission: Impossible?

That's where they kept Vallerie Plame's secret.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:07 PM
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11. Like chimps slinging poop at the zoo. :D
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:10 PM
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14. but was Brewster-Jennings covert?
Now come and explain it away!!!!! She was working with Brewster-Jennings so if she wasn't covert, were they? I want to hear the explanations.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:08 PM
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23. The argument is simple...
Despite the specifics on this, she was working in DO, which is the clandestine side of operations, that means everything on that side is covert, regardless of the spin. That said, Brewster Jennings was a front company and it was known as an energy company and not known actively to the public to be a front for the CIA, that also means covert.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:10 PM
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15. Newsweek (Feb 13, 2006)
"The CIA Leak: Plame Was Still Covert," by Michael Isikoff, notes that legal documents recently made public show that a federal judge found that Fitzgerald provided adequate evidence to prove, beyond any doubt, that Plame was covert, and had NOC status.
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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:14 PM
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17. I like the fact that seems to taken him almost 3 years
to even know enough to start weasling with his switch to "criminal" behavior instead of just relying on all of his troops to stonewall. Guess Fizgerald started getting to him alot sooner than we knew.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:23 PM
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19. OMFG! FREEPER CANT ADMIT HE IS WRONG !!! LMAO!
Freeper:

"The people who actually wrote the statute disagree with the judge and BSNBC.

The legal requirement is not "covert work overseas" but a "permenant station overseas in a covert operation." She doesn't meet that requirement. The statute requires that the CIA be "taking active measures to conceal her employment;" they obviously weren't doing that when a reporter managed to confirm her employment with the CIA with a simple telephone call.

Sorry. Not covert."

Bwa ha ha ha ha!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:32 PM
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21. Even IF that were the truth
Bush. Still. Lied.


And all the Freepers know lying is an impeachable offense! Ask Bill!
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:29 PM
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20. They better wakeup soon or Bush Co will surveil them and
use them , put them in danger,just like Valorie Plame and lie about it. And they'll do it just for political gain.

Oh look freepers, it's happening now!

If they think this administration is in any way working for them,God bless them,'cause they're gonna need it.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:41 PM
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22. Oh for the love of god... any freep want to discuss this with me?
Because I have a feeling a bit of good old fashioned fact-based reality may do them some good.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:30 AM
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24. Now they claim the NIE didnt have Plame info in it
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