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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:58 AM Original message |
A man discovers the kid is not his, is ordered to pay child support anyway |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. He raised the child for three years, it's his, and he's an ass for |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. This first post is probably the best. |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
103. The first problem is timing. |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #103 |
132. Timing? Legally, he's the (ex)HUSBAND, not the FATHER. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #132 |
163. No, he is the father |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #163 |
205. Then he should sue the "sperm donor" to recover his losses |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #205 |
209. A novel idea |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #132 |
207. Legally, he's been the father all along |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #207 |
227. How so? |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #227 |
259. Nope |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #207 |
264. Ehem...2 years Tops. He did not "Raise" the child. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #103 |
137. Couldn't he go |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #137 |
164. He is legally considered the father |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #137 |
206. Not in most states |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
45. What if the child had been adopted? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
69. What if the moon was made of cheese? The man |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
83. You're not serious |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #83 |
101. Did you read the article? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Himself a child of adoption... |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #83 |
107. Exactly! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
124. If it were adopted he'd have consented to that going in. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #124 |
168. It? It??? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #168 |
273. Isn't it? When did CONSENT become negligible? |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #168 |
280. I think that says it. Suddenly the kid is not longer a human but a thing. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
138. To me it sounds like |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #138 |
152. Sounds like he was tricked into paying for someone else's kid. |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #152 |
281. And because of this, the kid must be punished. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #281 |
284. The kid should be provided for, but |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #281 |
292. Punished in what way? Why shouldn't the biological father pay support, |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #292 |
318. The sperm donor hasn't been the "Daddy." |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #318 |
326. "Best interest" is a custody factor, not a financial support matter. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Right! |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
225. H2O Man, Just want to say I admire your actions. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
68. What about the child's biological father? |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #68 |
93. He's a sperm donor, really. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
195. I would like to hear that excuse when an unmarried woman |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #195 |
198. In that case, there is no other father. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. No, it doesn't. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #199 |
215. But this guy has been the only father this child has ever known |
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MikeNY (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #198 |
224. I disagree |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #224 |
231. She does. She is raising the child - he is paying to help out. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #231 |
249. So, he should be punished for not being enough of a jerk? |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
105. Greedy? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
153. It's his kid |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
213. If this goes to family court it falls under best interest of the child |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. Ironic |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'm pro-choice |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I don't agree with the ruling either, a consistent stance for pro-choice |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
113. Gong, gong, gong............ n/t |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. bingo!!! |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
60. Ding ding ding ding ding! |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
64. for some reason, the courts want to put the interests of the child first |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
125. "Best interest" is the standard for custody - not who pays child |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #125 |
187. Bill Gates isn't legally the father |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #187 |
271. Then it's a question of fatherhood, not "best interest". |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:51 AM Response to Reply #271 |
299. well, the law that decides the legal "father" is designed |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #299 |
301. Again, "best interest" is a principal of CUSTODY, not child support. n/t |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #301 |
302. well. both |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:58 AM Response to Reply #302 |
303. Interesting - is the reverse also true? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:13 AM Response to Reply #303 |
307. no. that's not even the reverse |
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AbbyR (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #303 |
322. Not so hypothetical... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
203. There must be a full throttle effort to find the biological father. |
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Drix (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
266. Best Interest of the Child??? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
98. It's not the same argument. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
170. I agree with you Lumberjack except |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. Children born during a legal marriage... |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Utter nonsense. Where did you find that non-legal gem? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Lawyer told me |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
44. I'm not a lawyer, but I spent the night in a comfortable bed last night. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
116. Excellent post |
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oblivious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
262. I don't get it: "Think of the only innocent party here" |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #262 |
278. Running out on an innocent kid. |
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oblivious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #278 |
282. Again I don't get it: "Running out on the kid"? |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #282 |
315. Kid won't need college fund if he isn't fed. Big talk, little action. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #262 |
289. Trust? Gullibility? And other high crimes? |
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Dunedain (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-12-06 04:06 AM Response to Reply #262 |
336. gullibility |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
67. It's not non-legal. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
172. Texas Too |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
200. OK, but the ex-husband |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
108. Actually, as a paralegal, I can tell |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
140. It's the law in IL |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
72. That was necessary before we had the DNA technology. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
88. Not true. They are PRESUMED to be the husband's children. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. ah, evidence yes... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
290. No, that where the much vaunted maternal instinct steps in and... |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
117. What state are you in? |
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trixie (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
111. Correct |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
171. That's the truth, but |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. tough situation |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
319. Similar joke, Why does the Mother pay more attention to the baby |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #319 |
327. change it to "the father" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. if he isn't the father, he shouldn't pay |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. No, it's not fraud. It's a child whom you say shouldn't be cared for |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
89. How about going after the real dad? nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
128. This man is the real dad |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #128 |
175. I bet when a guy has a one night stand |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #175 |
184. Exactly. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
155. That's an easy one. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
165. Alright, assuming this guy didn't know the kid wasn't his |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
174. It's in the child's interest to be cared for |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
269. I'm not saying that |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
9. My understanding is that, if they were married when the child was... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
176. That's what the law does, but |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #176 |
217. Look at it this way... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #217 |
263. Well in some cases it might be disputed |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #263 |
267. Under "no fault," the court probably won't entertain the question. |
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GrpCaptMandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
12. I'm certain even w/o seeing the Court's order |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
177. The best interest of the child would be to declare |
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GrpCaptMandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #177 |
214. And most any court might do so |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
13. Pre-DNA presumption |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
178. And what about the guy who fathers a child |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #178 |
256. I didn't say that |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
14. The kid was born from her cheating on him. Make the real father pay. |
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tatertop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That seems like the plain and simple solution. |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Indeed! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
134. Precisely. Just like any other man who fathers a child, even |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yeah, right. This is fair once the courts start having wives pay for |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You mean vice versa? |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Yeah because it's not like you don't have an axe to grind |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
47. It's not the same situation. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. It's EXACTLY the same situation, less the sexism. |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
141. Yes, but the court still presumes the mother is best as custodial |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #141 |
167. You have no idea why the court decided custody in her favor |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #167 |
261. At what point, are you the real father? |
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Dunedain (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-12-06 04:55 AM Response to Reply #261 |
337. When you care more about the child than you do yourself |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
16. Let me put on my asbestos suit first ... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
66. I flame you |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
118. No flames from me -- a good, common sense post |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
180. No flame but I bet if you found out the hospital |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
190. Again, everybody who found themselves in such a situation |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
18. Paternity is presumed to the husband when a child is born. |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Now there's REAL justice in action! |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. If you've been the only father the child knows, then you have to |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Exactly! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
82. So, the boy is five. If mother moves in |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
182. I think that makes good ethical sense |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Right. It's a smokescreen issue. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. It's not a rightwing talking point. |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Thank you for pointing that out. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. LOL. Yes it is. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. LOL. No, it isn't. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
90. This is a legitimate issue of *justice.* |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
20. For god's sake. How could you dump a kid like that. I can see no alimony. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
71. The kid got a biological father. Why doesn't anyone ask |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
121. Because that man is not the boy's father |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #121 |
143. He is not the sperm donor, because it was done the |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #143 |
161. He's still the sperm donor, sorry |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #161 |
186. So, I guess all those guys who had children trough |
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_testify_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #186 |
201. Yes! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
21. How is this thread related to jobs, healthcare, or the price of gas? |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. It's not! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. If we had a safety net here, this wouldn't even be a talking point. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
59. right on |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
183. Agree leftstreet |
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Scooter24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
27. That is crazy... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. The real father probably won't show up |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
73. Presumably, the mother knows who he is. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
74. Ah, but biological parents always have rights. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
29. Well, who's the Daddy? |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. The 'daddy' is the man who has raised this child ... |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. But finding the sperm donor would be useful. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-11-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
331. Some people (not this poster, of course) might be interested to know... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. First reaction? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:33 AM Response to Reply #36 |
70. You know perfectly well what happens in those situation. |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
92. We're not talking here about a situation where there are ... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
142. Well, any time something like this had happened, |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
185. What if you found out the hospital didn't mix up the kids |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
102. No, the word you're looking for is "victim". |
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Bamboo (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
37. What should go on the back of a cereal box. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:26 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Evo Psych is a load of crap IMO |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
43. Like my father (who is my step-father) has always said..... |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
49. Just a guess on my part |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
77. Could she has gone after the father? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
50. he's the emotional father. The kid is first, adults second. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
51. My brother is paying child support on 2 kids that aren't his |
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ohio_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Why is he paying child support for adult children? |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I guess so, |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
122. Ummm.... you don't pay support for kid's over 18 |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. Not correct |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
216. Just a question |
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ohio_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #216 |
314. My guess is that the obligee is in arrears |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
55. Wasn't this what happened with Amber Frye? |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
210. Yeah, he didn't have to keep paying |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
56. Sad that the child is stuck in the middle of this...kind of goes to show |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
120. Kind of goes to show |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
188. It was the cheating lying woman |
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KarenS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
58. This all boils down to,,,,, Be Careful who you make babies with |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
61. Right or wrong - nothing new... the state doesn't want to risk |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
63. Yet the GOP wants to keep gay partners from adopting their partner's child |
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William Bloode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
75. I would not pay for it, and you could not make me. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
76. Varies by state. Here is Louisiana's code article |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
78. For good or bad, when you're married, the kids are YOURS... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Lets say German Shepard dog wants to take responsibility. |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
149. Not really. The child is PRESUMED to be yours - but if that is |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #149 |
166. Maybe in your state it does. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
79. Now, this is a flamefest you can really sink your teeth into |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
123. Is he paying alimony? I didn't see that in the article |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #123 |
130. I didn't mean to suggest that he was or wasn't |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #130 |
160. The child does have a legal claim |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
80. Child Support is for the benefit of the child. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Let's say he looked. The way our laws are, it wouldn't matter. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #84 |
104. There's a chance he could have gotten out of it..... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
81. I'm of 2 minds about this. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
86. When a couple is married, |
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Scooter24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. In this case, |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #86 |
109. What the heck??? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
127. A responsibility he WILLINGLY took on? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #86 |
133. He might have wanted the kid in the first place, |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
94. She says it wasn't cheating; it was an infertility issue. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #94 |
114. Nobody ever calls it cheating |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #114 |
191. Regardless of this case |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
135. If you believe that, I have a nice condo for sale in Florida. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
146. If it was "infertility" wouldn't he have KNOWN it wasn't his kid? |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #146 |
204. Her point is that DUH! He "knew" it wasn't his bio kid, because |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #204 |
313. Too bad no one here actually read the article like you did, Ida |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
96. Well, it is fraud |
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rpgamerd00d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
97. He is right. The real father is getting away with no support and |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
99. Looks like a case of yet another child |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
100. I wonder how this man would feel if the child were to die. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #100 |
136. Who on Earth doesn't think in terms of money? |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #136 |
197. I didn't say a word about not worrying about money. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #100 |
150. Why shouldn't he think of the money? He was defrauded and is |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #100 |
192. He can love the child and the child can love him |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
106. Self delete, decided it was a post of its own. n/t |
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TexasLady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
110. I must have married a couple of unique men then |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #110 |
126. Good for your ex -- he's a real man |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #126 |
194. Your spouse seems like a fine man |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
144. Big difference between choosing to do this and being tricked |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Exactly. It is one thing to decide to raise somebody else's |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
115. Two things: this guy is a major jerk |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #115 |
159. Exactly. And, there's more to being a father than donating the sperm |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. I know, this really sucks |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #162 |
169. I'm guessing those who "don't get it" also don't have children |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. I don't either, but In also get it |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. Yes, that is where my name comes from |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #169 |
202. It would mean that real quick if the woman wasn't married. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #169 |
277. I have two kids, one adopted, and what I "get" is that he was defrauded. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #159 |
193. If the woman wasn't married, but for whatever |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #193 |
212. There would have to be paternity tests done |
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oblivious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #115 |
291. You have made unfair assumptions about him -- by intention or ignorance? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
119. In California the limit is 2 years after the birth of the child |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #119 |
147. A time limit makes sense, especially because it declares the |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #147 |
272. But with that time limit should come |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
129. Feminism didn't make the law covering this situation. |
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Fox Mulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
139. He shouldn't have to pay. |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. Even women get screwed by child support rulings |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #145 |
208. Now, that's insane. I had no idea new wife can be made to |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
151. Can he sue the bio mother and father for fraud? |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. You know, I once heard Dr. Laura recommend that a woman not tell |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. I'm always pleased to disagree with "Doctor" Laura. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Yes, it's practical. But it's completely immoral. |
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Nikki Stone 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #158 |
189. I agree. And I'm always happy to disagree w/Laura too |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #189 |
274. Provision should be made for the kid for sure |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
156. They wouldn't want me.... |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #156 |
211. Here here! |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #211 |
222. The money is for the child |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. Yes, I get it. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #223 |
229. He is in another state. A father's responsibility crosses state lines |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. He's not the father. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. Again, he is paying for the child - not her infidelity |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. He is not paying for the child. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #235 |
240. He is paying child support. It is for the child. A child he raised. |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. Does he still get to see the child? |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #243 |
252. The article doesn't mention |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. I imagine he had some emotional issues of his own... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. The most important thing is the welfare of the child |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #254 |
255. His parents KNEW he wasn't their biological child. |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #254 |
260. If your neighbor's child needed your cash, would that be all that matters? |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
179. He would have looked like a God in that child's eyes once he |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #179 |
258. Perhaps, but he still won't appear to be as much a bastard as the... |
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Acryliccalico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
196. Legally, The child was born under his name. It is his! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #196 |
304. Law is not concerned with biology |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
218. I think this is a disgrace, and I wouldn't pay a goddamn dime. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. oh nevermind |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #220 |
237. I have read your plethora of comments here and obviously disagree |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #218 |
226. I would describe the ruling as pro-adultery, not anti-male |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
219. a similar ruling in Virginia |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 04:59 AM Response to Reply #219 |
309. That should make a "vas deferens" for your love life n/t |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
221. If I were this guy... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #221 |
230. My parents had a friend who moved to Oklahoma in a similar situation |
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redherring (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
228. This case makes me angry |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
232. Not sure of all the circumstances and laws, |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
236. I would like to know what the women is spending $1,200 a month |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. Rent, food, clothing, school supplies, music lessons, etc. |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. I have two... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. The courts base the amount of support on the income of the parents |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #241 |
248. The key word here being "parents." |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:10 AM Response to Reply #241 |
305. That's always seemed weird to me |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #239 |
242. $1200 a month for one kid is a lot. How much you want to bet she's |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. I'm pretty sure that's a given. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #242 |
246. Yeah, people can live high on the hog for $1200 a month |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #242 |
247. The kid lives with her, she pays rent, etc. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #238 |
245. Your right, my kids are all raised and they're all moved away.. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #238 |
251. My kids are raised. This women would have rent, house payments, |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #251 |
306. I have never heard of needing receipts |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #238 |
265. My sister is on disability and only gets $703.00 a MONTH! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #265 |
268. Men pay child support based on their income. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #268 |
279. True -- ask Larry Bird or any |
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SiobhanClancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
250. Terribly unfair to the ex-husband... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
257. Well, the mother is certainly "the word that can not be spoken on DU"... |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #257 |
270. You don't know that for a fact and neither does the court. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #270 |
288. Be that as it may; a fraudulent ---t is a fraudulent ---t is a... |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #288 |
293. It's just not possible that they agreed to parent a child that wasn't... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:42 PM Response to Reply #293 |
294. Ah, but there are just as many attorneys out there who do hope... |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 05:04 AM Response to Reply #293 |
310. Your theory defies common sense. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #310 |
312. Wow. You know everything. Did you get all this from the newspaper story? |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-11-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #312 |
332. Well, it's not hard to gather the facts from this article. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-12-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #332 |
335. Oh, right. Who needs rules of evidence when we have newspapers? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #293 |
316. That's exactly what the ex-wife said.... |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #316 |
320. Try telling some of the guys around here that the ex-husband's... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 11:31 AM Response to Reply #320 |
321. The majority of Progressives aren't posting here.... |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #320 |
328. I wonder if the new girlfriend might be a factor |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #328 |
330. Where the court is least likely to remain neutral... |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
275. Dads need more rights. Fraud is fraud. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
276. Here's an article |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
283. I hesitate to even reenter this, but the reason he's on the hook ... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #283 |
286. I dn't like this doctrine of finality |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #286 |
287. You're preaching to the choir. I agree with your position. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
285. Deleted sub-thread |
Wind Sky and Earth (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
295. My Story |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #295 |
296. A wonderfully uplifting post |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:50 AM Response to Reply #295 |
298. Thanks for sharing your story |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #295 |
300. God bless you and your daughter! |
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No Exit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:23 AM Response to Reply #295 |
308. Okay, bye, but |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
297. Note to married men: have DNA test done AT BIRTH |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #297 |
317. No, you can wait until the divorce proceedings. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
311. Another case of technology getting ahead of the law. |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
323. I guess the "love" he felt for his son |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
324. The answer lies in between... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
325. I think that the ex-husband should continue to pay, and sue the "father" |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
329. What about men who actually want to be dads? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-11-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
333. Last child support payment ( joke ) |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-11-06 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
334. Well, that's our "Justice" System for ya! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-12-06 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
338. You know, I've heard of a time it worked the other way. |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-12-06 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
339. I couldn't walk out on the kid. |
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