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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:04 PM
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Attention, please: The media *IS* liberal.
Liberals dominate the media....this has been announced by Rush Limbaugh. And Thomas Sowell. And Ann Coulter. And Rich Lowry. Bill O'Reilly. And William Safire. And Robert Novak. And William F. Buckley, Jr. And George Will.

And Oliver North. And Joe Scarborough. And Pat Buchanan. And John McLaughlin. And Cal Thomas. And Joe Klein. And James Kilpatrick. And Tucker Carlson. And Deroy Murdock. And Michael Savage. And Charles Krauthammer. And Stephen Moore. And Alan Keyes.

And Gary Bauer. And Mort Kondracke. And Andrew Sullivan. And Nicholas von Hoffman. And Neil Cavuto. And Mike Rosen. And Dave Kopel. And John Caldara. And Deborah Howell. And Richard Morin. And John Harris.

And John Gibson. And David Brooks. And Tony Snow. And Tony Blankely. And Fred Barnes. And Britt Hume. And Larry Kudlow. And Sean Hannity. And David Horowitz. And William Kristol. And Hugh Hewitt. And that dreadful Michelle Malkin.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:07 PM
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1. Actually, the media *ARE* liberal.
If you want to use proper English.

B-)

NGU.


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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:11 AM
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17. 'are' is the correct tense
but the quote was from ignorant repugs who can speak proper English.

... or think properly for that paper.

i hate conservatives and have no respect for them.
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Memory Container Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 06:52 AM
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24. Even though "the media" expresses a
singular entity?
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:04 AM
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25. Actually, it doesn't.
"Media" is the plural of "medium". "The media" refers to TV, radio, papers etc.

To be honest you can use either - in publishing, the choice of whether one says "the media is" or "the media are" is a matter of preference on the part of the editor.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:48 AM
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29. Yeah...similar to "the U.S. is" and "the U.S. are". nt
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:20 PM
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32. We live in Bush* world where Proper English does not exist
So "Is our Children lurnin'?"
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:09 PM
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2. Lovely, Bluebear, lovely!
:toast:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:25 PM
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3. Another reason NOT to watch any 24/7 news network.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:27 PM
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4. Traitors every one n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:27 PM
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5. You forgot:
William Bennett. And Dennis Prager. And Laura Ingram. And Michael Medved. And Glenn Beck. And Chris Wallace.

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:13 AM
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22. And who COULD forget Michael Medved...???
Policer of the Public Morals and Defender of the Sanctity of Marriage (at least when he's not breaking up his own, or someone else's...).

:puke:

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:27 PM
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6. Conservatives have no voice in the media
The Rush Limbaugh show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Bill O'Reilly show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Sean Hannity show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Eva Von Zahn show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Belway Boys where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Brit Hume show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Tony Snow show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Juan Williams show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Mara Liason show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The McLaughlin Group where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Chris the Screamer show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The G. Gordon Liddy show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Laura Schlessinger show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Michael Medved show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Sam & Cokie show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
Meet the Press with Tim Russert where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The John Hockenberry show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Ollie North show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Neil Bortz show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Robert Novak show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Paul Weyrich show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Brian Williams show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Wolf Blitzer show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The Don Imus show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
The John Stossel show where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.
Reliable Sources with Howie Kurtz where they'll say conservatives have no voice in the media.

Then,

David Horowitz will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Maureen Dowd will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Ann Coulter will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Laura Ingraham will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Peggy Noonan will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
William Safire will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Andrew (bareback) Sullivan will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
David Limbaugh will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Jonah Goldberg will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Mona Charen will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Linda Chavez will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
John Fund will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Paul Greenburg will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Jeff Jacoby will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Dick Morris will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Thomas Sowell will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Cal Thomas will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Walter Williams will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Mort Zuckerman will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Brent Bozell will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
William F Buckley will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Neil Cavuto will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
David Hackworth will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Charles Krauthammer will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
William Raspberry will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Phyllis Schlafly will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
George Will will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Matt Drudge will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Luci (The Bat) Goldberg will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Michael Barone will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Lawrence Kudlow will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Marlin Fitzwater will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Pat Buchanan will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Ari Fleisher will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Christopher Hitchens will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Rich Lowry will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
Kate O'Beirne will write a column saying conservatives have no voice in the media.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:29 PM
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7. helloo. . .hello . . .helo . . .
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jusb Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:50 PM
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11. Maureen Dowd?
Isn't she considered a liberal?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:08 AM
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16. I wouldn't consider her one
She bashes both sides of the isle. I think she has a bi-polar personality.

She was vicious when it came to Clinton, and she continually harasses Hillary.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 02:25 PM
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33. 1) the bashing or not bashing of the clintons...
...is not a determinative characteristic of liberalism.

2) are the clintons liberal?

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:12 PM
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34. Depends who you ask.
I know Liberals who consider them Liberal.
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chicofaraby Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:28 AM
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20. I am SO stealing that...
Thanks
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:11 AM
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21. That list is a bit outdated
For example, Hackworth is dead
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:00 AM
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28. It's the latest one I could find
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 10:01 AM by Tempest
There's also some newcomers missing.

Kathleen Parker, for example.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:30 PM
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8. Who owns the Liberal Media?
Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 11:40 PM by Octafish
Liberal Corporations, like ABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutwork.

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:49 PM
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9. well, see, they let gays have their own sitcoms, you see. cased closed.
all those conservatives are needed to be fair and balanced against the gay agenda as exhibited by will & grace.

i'd put a sarcasm icon here, but sadly, that's the EXACT logic of those who persist in calling the media liberal.

:wtf:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:49 PM
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10. 'Tis funny that you posted this.....Last night I was at a party
There was a drunk that was telling everyone is a loud voice that he had an interesting conversation this afternoon with a couple of boys just home from Iraq. Accordingly the soldiers said that everyone in Iraq loves the American military and the liberal media is brain washing America. I was about ready to say something, when I noticed that everyone in the room was giving this guy a pathetic look. I decided to stay quiet.

Later I was talking to this lady that I thought to be well educated and appeared to be quite normal. She told me she couldn't vote for George W. Bush in 2000 because she thought Allen Keyes was a much better man. Needlessly to say, I left 30 minutes later..
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:52 PM
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12. This would be a great opinion piece...I'm bookmarking it. nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:52 PM
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13. OBEY


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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:55 PM
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14. For the sake of it, let's name the actual liberal media...who are they?
Uhmmmm....

John Stewart (I know, I know--he's a comedian, but let's consider him anyway)
Steven Colbert (see John Stewart)
Bill Maher (sometimes)

come on people, help me out here...
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:16 AM
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23. Amy Goodman
For the life of me I can't think of anyone else.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:17 AM
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27. Democracy Now, Air America Radio, The Nation, Mother Jones
plus a bunch of local printed media and radio stations.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:46 PM
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36. Are these main stream? I don't think so. The people that are listed
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 11:47 PM by linazelle
at the beginning of this thread are on the air around the clock in one form or another via at-your-fingertips, free media.

You don't have to buy a magazine, visit a website or subscribe to satellite radio to reach them.

The majority of Americans are hearing from people who don't represent them.

Something's very wrong with that.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 02:49 AM
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37. You asked to list the actual liberal media -
Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 02:51 AM by rman
the question was not lo list mainstream liberal media.

Though AAR is pretty mainstream. And The Nation has more subscribers then any of the big (not-so-liberal) newspapers.

Though of course these don't have nearly the coverage of the RW media.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:54 PM
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42. You're right. I did. I just wanted to point out the imbalance.
:hi:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:37 AM
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41. Here's some
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:05 AM
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15. I've heard "liberal media" 10,000 times in media, not once on streetcorner
I've heard "corporate media" not at all in M$M, a hundred times on streetcorners.

Whose message did you say was being suppressed, again?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:25 AM
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18. When I hear it in public
I know the person watches way too much Fox and to walk the other way. It's rare, but I do hear it unfortunately.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:27 AM
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19. lol
:rofl: :applause:
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:11 AM
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26. Kicked and Bookmarked!!!
Nice work! :applause:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:59 AM
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30. I've heard that telling the truth has a liberal bias.....catapult truth !
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 12:00 PM by EVDebs
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:12 PM
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31. imagine that!
Hilarious!
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:41 PM
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35. "If It's Sunday ...
... it's more 'liberal' media ... thought the research below was appropriate for this thread ... thanks to Media Matters ...

not to forget all those 'experts' from all those think tanks like Heritage Foundation, CFR, CATO, etc., the 'liberal' media likes to use a lot


If It's Sunday, It's Conservative: An analysis of the Sunday talk show guests on ABC, CBS, and NBC, 1997 - 2005

Executive Summary

The Sunday-morning talk shows on ABC, CBS, and NBC are where the prevailing opinions are aired and tested, policymakers state their cases, and the left and right in American politics debate the pressing issues of the day on equal ground. Both sides have their say and face probing questions. Or so you would think.

In fact, as this study reveals, conservative voices significantly outnumber progressive voices on the Sunday talk shows. Media Matters for America conducted a content analysis of ABC's This Week, CBS' Face the Nation, and NBC's Meet the Press, classifying each one of the nearly 7,000 guest appearances during President Bill Clinton's second term, President George W. Bush's first term, and the year 2005 as either Democrat, Republican, conservative, progressive, or neutral. The conclusion is clear: Republicans and conservatives have been offered more opportunities to appear on the Sunday shows - in some cases, dramatically so.

Among the study's key findings:

- The balance between Democrats/progressives and Republicans/conservatives was roughly equal during Clinton's second term, with a slight edge toward Republicans/conservatives: 52 percent of the ideologically identifiable guests were from the right, and 48 percent were from the left. But in Bush's first term, Republicans/ conservatives held a dramatic advantage, outnumbering Democrats/progressives by 58 percent to 42 percent. In 2005, the figures were an identical 58 percent to 42 percent.

-Counting only elected officials and administration representatives, Democrats had a small advantage during Clinton's second term: 53 percent to 45 percent. In Bush's first term, however, the Republican advantage was 61 percent to 39 percent -- nearly three times as large.

-In both the Clinton and Bush administrations, conservative journalists were far more likely to appear on the Sunday shows than were progressive journalists. In Clinton's second term, 61 percent of the ideologically identifiable journalists were conservative; in Bush's first term, that figure rose to 69 percent.

-In 1997 and 1998, the shows conducted more solo interviews with Democrats/progressives than with Republicans/conservatives. But in every year since, there have been more solo interviews with Republicans/conservatives.

-The most frequent Sunday show guest during this nine-year period is Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who has appeared 124 times. Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) has been the most frequent guest since 2003.

-In every year examined by the study -- 1997 - 2005 -- more panels tilted right (a greater number of Republicans/conservatives than Democrats/progressives) than tilted left. In some years, there were two, three, or even four times as many righttitled panels as left-tilted panels.

-Congressional opponents of the Iraq war were largely absent from the Sunday shows, particularly during the period just before the war began.


In short, the Sunday talk shows on ABC, CBS, and NBC are dominated by conservative voices, from newsmakers to commentators. The data from the Clinton years indicate that the disparity cannot be explained simply by the fact that Republicans currently control the government.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200602140002


Click here to read the full report.
http://mediamatters.org/static/pdf/MMFA_Sunday_Show_Report.pdf

"Though Biden has narrowly outpaced McCain over the last three years, there is one way in
which the Delaware Democrat is unlikely to ever approach the Arizona Republican: Biden
usually appears alongside a Republican senator. McCain, on the other hand, is more likely to
be offered a privilege normally reserved for high administration officials and those who have
just done something particularly newsworthy: the solo interview."



Most Appearances, 1997-2005

John McCain 124
Joseph Biden 80
Colin Powell 68
Joe Lieberman 64
Tom Daschle 59
Orrin Hatch 58
John Kerry 51 -- probably concentrated c. 2004
Trent Lott 50
Chuck Hagel 48
Condoleezza Rice 41 (this is through 2005)


Most Frequent Guests by Year

Year Top Democratic Guest Top Republican Guest
1997 Madeleine Albright (10) Orrin Hatch (13)
1998 Jack Quinn (12) Orrin Hatch (18)
1999 Joe Lieberman, Bob Torricelli (11) John McCain (20)
2000 William Daley (10) John McCain (21)
2001 Tom Daschle (17) John McCain (18)
2002 Tom Daschle, Joe Lieberman (12) Colin Powell (20)
2003 Joseph Biden (15) Colin Powell (14)
2004 Joseph Biden (15) John McCain (13)
2005 Joseph Biden (17) John McCain (14)
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:09 AM
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38. Kick, in case anyone missed this yesterday....n/t
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:11 AM
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39. Yeah, but what do conservatives say?
:rofl:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 10:33 AM
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40. That is a hoot, this comes from someone who just wants to hear the truth.
I want to live in the real world. I would like to actually know what is going on, so that I can do my best to change it for the better. Both sides shouldn't dominate the media at all. I have to say that there might be a slight "liberal media" bias out there, but conservatives shouldn't counter that with a heavy conservative bias. This is the problem with our country. The conservatives have turned into mind-less zombies and they are trying to take the rest of the country with them.
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