Opposition to the seal hunt is racist and stupid....

[V. Kid]

...now that I've gotten your attention, I'd like to say that opposition to the seal hunt is racist and stupid. Now, I don't apply this to the non-reasonable mass slaughters, those are not but so often celberties, and otherwise well meaning people, are opposing it on the bases that it's just so bad.

Now I know alot of people will go "waaahht" and raise their eyebrows in confusion. After all a good many liberals, think they're doing a good thing by opposing the seal hunt. That said, lets cut through the propoganda that people put out there to make themselves feel nice about themselves.

Here's an example:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/2006-03-29-anderson-seals_x.htm?POE=LIFISVA

TORONTO (AP) — Actress Pamela Anderson's has added her name to the growing list of celebrities speaking out against Canada's annual seal hunt, which just got underway.



Anderson, a native of British Columbia in western Canada, said she hopes to visit Ottawa on Monday to meet with Harper. The prime minister turned down a similar request by French film legend Brigitte Bardot, who traveled to Ottawa last week to protest the hunt.

The seal hunt has attracted plenty of celebrity protesters this year, including former Beatle Paul McCartney and his wife, Heather Mills, who called the cull "a stain on the character of the Canadian people" and urged the government to turn to ecotourism in the region.

British singer Morrissey said he won't include Canada on any tours until the seal hunt ends.



Okay, so it sounds horrible. And yes, clubbing baby seals to death is unpleasnt. But the response of many cleberties, is just so silly it isn't even funny. And if they were really liberal they would consider that many inuit and first nations people in Canada, an oppressed group througout Canada's history, rely on the seal hunt. I'm quite sure it's the same in other inuit populations throughout the arctic.

So let's consider this shall we?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060313/inuit_sealcampaign_060313?s_name=&no_ads=

Canadian Press

IQALUIT, Nunavut — Two Inuit leaders say pop star Paul McCartney's recent campaign against the Canadian seal hunt is silly and disrespectful to wildlife.

The ex-Beatle visited the East Coast region this month to stage a high-profile photo-op on the ice floes in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, calling for the end of the centuries-old commercial hunt.

Sheila Watt-Cloutier, the elected Chair of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, and Duane Smith, president of the conference, say in a news release issued Monday that Ottawa should reject McCartney's advice.

They are urging a federally funded campaign in Europe and the United States to counter his message.



Watt-Cloutier said if McCartney wants to save seals, he should help Inuit stop climate change which is destroying sea ice - the habitat of seals.

She invited the pop star to visit the Arctic to learn what seal hunting means to Inuit.

Also, people must remember that the Seal hunt is conducted along the Labradorian coast, which is largely populated and conducted by Innu people.

Anyways let's not forget this either:

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=e692a945-09aa-44f3-80e2-6f1f7e0f9540&k=2010

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - A top Canadian Inuit official defended his country's seal hunt Monday, saying it was vital to the survival of aboriginal peoples in the Arctic and provided an economic lifeline for an area desperate for jobs and growth.

Paul Okalik, premier of Canada's northern Nunavut territory, said the majority of the 30,000 people in his region were dependent on seals and other native species like polar bear and fish for their everyday food.

"This is our daily basic diet - we can't grow potatoes. . . . It's something we require to continue to survive and its far more nutritious than what is imported from southern Canada," Okalik told reporters.

"So we will continue to eat it, and assist our diets in living healthy. . . . You do your thing and we will continue to do ours."

So essentially my point is this, nuance people. Remember that certain people rely on this, and while you may think that your doing a good thing by opposing it. With out remembering the nunance that the Inuit rely on it, your really being racist. Why such a harsh word? Because it's a part of their culture, and your ignoring that. So oppose the commercial, un-regulated hunt if you must, but don't be so wide reaching and simplistically unrealistic.

[Critters2]

1. The seal hunt being opposed is not done by the Inuit

but by Canadians of European descent. Nice try, though.

[Elidor]

2. "yes, clubbing baby seals to death is unpleasnt"

:rofl:

You got to be putting me on. This is so awful I can't possibly take it seriously. Opposition to clubbing baby seals is racist? O, man...

:popcorn:

[V. Kid]

9. Did you even read the post?

Oh wait, you don't need too, I saw your name, carry on.

[flvegan]

3. It's commercial fishermen, not the Inuit.

"Basic diet...continue to eat it" has nothing to do with the hunt going on now for pelts.

Check your facts, poster, before you call me or anyone else a racist.

[wtmusic]

4. Is not most clubbing done for fur exportation

I would like to know how many BABY seals actually end up on Inuit tables. Not very much meat on a baby. Those are killed for their fur.

[MasonJar]

5. I hate to say this about any DUer, but your statement is the most

abusive and outrageous statement I've read here. Killing helpless infants with clubs which is in itself barbaric cannot be condoned by any measure, economic especially. There is not a valid argument to support this atrocity. I doubt very seriously that the Inuits kill baby seals; if in fact I am wrong about this, I am sure the Inuits do the killing for food. These monsters are slaughtering these precious seal babies for money. I wish them nightmares in eternity. Baby seals are a living being just like you and your dog. What makes them of lesser value? Your thumb? Not to me.

[catnhatnh]

6. So Like,you won't listen....

....even if it's like, a CANADIAN celberties????

[V. Kid]

10. Okay, like oh-my-gawd...psha...

...your totally right, if Pam Anderson is against it, clearly she's an expert. So like, yeah.

[Minstrel Boy]

7. stop it, you're making me think for myself

not to mention hungry

Newfoundland Flipper Pie

2 seal flippers
1 small turnip, cubed
3 carrots , sliced
2 onions, sliced
1 parsnip, sliced
2 ½ cups water
1 ½ oz screech
½ fat back pork
2 tbsp vinegar

DUMPLING PASTRY:
1 ½ cups flour
2 tsp baking powder
small pat of butter

Cut all fat and slag from flippers, place them in a deep dish
and add enough boiling water to cover, add vinegar and set
aside to cool, then wipe dry with a paper towel and place
in baking pan or large casserole dish. Add pepper and salt
to taste, cover with sliced onions and sliced fat pork,
dribble the screech over the contents. Cover and cook for 2
hours in a pre heated oven , 375 degrees. Boil turnip,
carrots and parsnip in 2 ½ cups of water for 20 minutes.
When ready place in baking dish along with flipper. Use
vegetable water for gravy... thickened with flour. Make
dumpling pastry and pat over flippers and vegetables. Cover
and bake gently until pastry is done (about 15 minutes).
http://www.joycesfinecooking.com/Ethnic/newfoundland_flipper_pie.htm

[V. Kid]

14. Don't you know that the seal hunt is always bad...always!

Why aren't you paying attention!

Oh wait, I should be yelling at you.

WHY AREN'T YOU PAYING ATTENTION?!?

[shockra]

8. You've bought the government spin.

http://www.seashepherd.org/news/media_060106_1.html

1/06/2006

Canadian Seal Products Disgust Inuit Sealers - Greenland Bans Canadian Seal Pelts

The annual Canadian seal slaughter is now being condemned by traditional indigenous sealers.

Greenland and Denmark have banned Canadian sealskins from their markets. The Greenland government took the decision to distance the aboriginal Greenland hunt from the Canadian commercial seal hunt. In a comment to the Danish newspaper Politiken, Mr. Aqqaluk Lynge, Chairman of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, stated, "In contradiction to the Inuit hunters the Newfoundlanders use nature as a slaughterhouse."

Canada has long tried to misrepresent the annual seal slaughter as indigenous despite the fact that the aboriginal peoples of Newfoundland, the Beothuks, were completely exterminated by the Newfoundlanders.

In recent years, Canada has enlisted the support of Canadian Inuit groups to reluctantly defend the slaughter. The Greenland Inuit are free to criticize the hunt because they have no reason to fear economic reprisals from Ottawa unlike their cousins in Canadian controlled territories.

http://www.canadianvoiceforanimals.org/SA_TenQuestions.html

Capt. Paul Watson Answers 11 Common Questions on the Seal Hunt

1. Question: At some of the seal demonstrations on March 15th, the protesters were confronted by Inuit people accusing them of attacking Inuit culture. Is the campaign to protect the seals an attack on the seal hunting traditions of the Inuit people?

Captain Paul Watson: Isn’t it a strange coincidence that some Inuit people just happened to be strolling past the government offices on the day and at the same time the protests were taking place? And it is even more curious that these same Inuit people immediately went to the media to attack the protestors and they all said the same thing in Vancouver, Toronto, and Ottawa.

It was scripted, of course, and the Inuit were not there by accident. Canada has for years attempted to link the East coast slaughter of seals to native culture. The fact is, however, that not one Inuit person is employed in the slaughter that is targeting 319,000 seals in March and April of 2005. This is just a government media spin to generate sympathy for the sealers.

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In all of my campaigns against the sealers since 1976 when I first went to the ice, I have never seen nor have I ever confronted an Inuit or First Nations person killing a seal.

[originalpckelly]

11. Even hunters in the USA are better than that

They continuously state that the deaths of animals they hunt is quick and as painless as possible. But beating an animal to death with a club is not exactly humane even by our hunters standards. I do think that had this been a bunch of seriously ugly animals people wouldn't care so much, but it doesn't change the fact that that death must a horribly painful one. Why don't they just shoot the things? I don't know if I still be opposed to it then, but they are so cute and cuddly. How do these people sleep at night?

[V. Kid]

12. Question do people read the entire opening post around here or not?

I wonder if I said that people should club baby seals?

Oh, nope sorry, I didn't.

Did I talk about a group of inuit people having their way of life unfairly tarnished by "experts" like Paul McCartney, and Pam Anderson, uh...yeah!

[V. Kid]

13. P.S. my thread title is intentionally provocative to draw people in...

...but I was wondering if they'd read the entire post. Geuss not.

[WhollyHeretic]

16. Just because people don't agree with your poorly written and

even more poorly reasoned post doesn't mean they didn't read the entire thing.

[NMMNG]

15. "clubbing baby seals to death is unpleasnt."

Unpleasant? Stubbing your toe is unpleasant. Scraping your knee is unpleasant. Being clubbed to death is not "unpleasant", it is a brutal and barbaric form of death.




Remember that certain people rely on this, and while you may think that your doing a good thing by opposing it. With out remembering the nunance that the Inuit rely on it, your really being racist.

So I guess I am a racist because I oppose the fact that millions of children labor in nations like El Salvador and India? After all, it is part of their culture, something they rely on. :shrug:

[Moderator]

17. locking..

This is flamebait.