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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:43 PM
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"Gentle Christians" say they cannot coexist with homosexual community
To: National & State Desk

Contact: Rev. Flip Benham, Charlotterighteous.org, 980-722-4920

CHARLOTTE, NC, March 27 /Christian Wire Service/ -- "Charlotte Pride," that horrific abomination where homosexual perversion is paraded publicly in Marshall Park in Downtown Charlotte every spring, is finished! Thank God! - Rev Flip Benham, Operation Save America, formerly known as Operation Rescue.

No more open displays of obscenity with photos of males in full frontal nudity. No more vendor booths selling S&M merchandise. No more sound stage with transvestite dancers simulating sodomy with children. No more vile and threatening comments made toward children by homosexual comedians. Marshall Park will be free this year from the vile assaults of the homosexual community.

We pray that God will push the radical homosexual agenda – not just back into the closet – but all the way into its lying, murderous grave, and leave no marker for it. We pray that what happened here will provide a bright ray of hope for gentle Christians who are battling the radical homosexual agenda and "Gay Pride Events," in their own cities. We pray that many who are lost in the bondage of homosexual lust and sin will be set free by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

How did this happen? Gentle Christians took the battle to the streets. For the past four years we have been bringing King Jesus to "Charlotte Pride," the very gates of hell! We have found that the gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church of Jesus Christ!

As the Church has come out of the closet, the homosexual community has returned to the closet. Light and darkness cannot coexist. Life and death are not compatible – the beginning of one is the end of the other. Christianity and homosexuality are sworn enemies – one brings life, the other brings death.

What: Press Conference

Where: Marshall Park, Downtown Charlotte - Davidson and Third

When: Monday, March 27, 2006, 11:30 AM

Contact: Rev. Flip Benham (980) 722-4920 Charlotterighteous.org



http://www.earnedmedia.org/osa0327.htm
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:45 PM
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1. Flip is such a butch name! n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:28 AM
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36. He probably dresses like "Geraldine" in his spare time. (NT)
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:44 PM
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52. The Debbil makes him do it. (nt)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:46 PM
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2. If all religion is but branches on the Tree of Life...
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 11:47 PM by DanCa
Than Conservative Christianity is said tree's Dutch Elm disease.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:46 PM
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3. I like that! nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:31 AM
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37. Any fundyism is, imo
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:48 PM
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4. Funny how anti-gay "Christians" think homosexuality is worse than murder
Last time I checked, there was a commandment "Thou shalt not kill" and no commandment "Thou shalt not be gay." Homosexuality is given but a passing mention in the Bible and these people think Christianity begins and ends with it.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:05 AM
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20. ANYTHING that admonishes straight males is ignored
in the Fundy version of the Holey Bobble.

And as for sex, the Fundy men - judging by their criminal proclivities - don't mind sex. They just like it well hidden.

"It might be okay to fondle your 14-year-old stepdaughter, but by Gawd do not let her talk to any queers."

But don't they just sound so wholesome?








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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:31 AM
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31. Because they don't know which partner should submit to the other
After all, two males are equals and two females are equals. These people don't believe you can have a sexual relationship between equals. Someone has to be the master.

Seems like all this bondage stuff they object to is what bugs them the most. It lays it right there in the open. Anyone who knows anything at all about bondage knows about safe words. The submissive is the one with the power to end the encounter. Not so with a fundie husband taught that a woman is to obey without question and without safe words. He can go on until she dies and it's OK. But if she has a safe word, he has to stop and he can't abide that.

Note that I'm talking only about the most extreme of the fundies and the most rabid of the rabid right. The frothing at the mouth anti-everything human.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:49 PM
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5. For the record, the "christians" had nothing to do w/the cancellation
http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/local_news/?ArID=116447&SecID=2

Laura Witkowski, the executive director of the Lesbian & Gay Community Center, said Operation Save America has nothing to do with the cancellation.

“I know (Benham) is taking credit for the ‘downfall’ of Charlotte Pride,” Witkowski said Monday. “But the reason why Charlotte Pride is not happening at the time planned and in Marshall Park is because the former organizers decided, for whatever reason, that they just don't have the time or energy to do it this year.”

Regardless of why the event was canceled, Benham views it as a victory.

“This park is going to be free from homosexual sodomy taking place right here in the purview of everyone who comes by,” he said. “It isn’t going to happen this year. But believe me, it'll come back next year and we're going to have to deal with this issue again and again and again.”

The issue might come back sooner than Benham originally thought. Another group is planning a new, bigger gay pride event for later this year.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:49 PM
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6. So what, if anything, actually happened?
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:50 PM
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7. Does any of this hold water?
"... simulating sodomy with children."

"... threatening comments made toward children by homosexual comedians."

:wtf:
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:52 PM
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8. If anyone is "simulating sodomy w/children," it's the Republicans
Only they don't stop at simulating it
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:07 AM
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13. Or some guys you can find at this place: (see pic)
The Vatican



Sometimes, you can find them dressed like this:



This pretty much sums it up:




And yes, I'm Catholic and no, I don't mean all Catholic priests because yes, some are very progressive- for example, the two priests who married me and Mr. kt.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:16 AM
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14. Unfortunately, what *they* have been known to do isn't simulated.
And while it isn't "all Priests", the whole Church has been tainted because the organization as a body has engaged in widespread conspiracy to cover up the behavior of serial criminal child abusers in their ranks.

But something tells me "Flip" isn't going to be issuing any gleeful press releases about that.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:43 AM
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15. Nor of sodomizing underage prisoners at Abu Ghraib. nt
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #14
48. Flip is probably the sort of "Christian" who doesn't consider Catholics
to be Christians anyway.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:34 AM
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32. That's good
because my cousin was a priest (now deceased). He was a great human being that always did good and helped people.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:51 PM
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44. One of the priests who married Mr. kt and myself is very progressive
and the other firmly believes in ordaining women. If they had been anything else, they wouldn't have been marrying us!
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:53 PM
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9. I would like to see every gay person and pflag member in the country decen
d upon charlotte NC. What a showing that would be.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:08 AM
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24. Fuck..
My moms folks live out there.
My aunt was homophobic until I came out to her as transgender and threatened to knock the shit out of her for being such a bigot in the middle of her homophobic rant at the TV. I got in her face and told her that I was ashamed to be related to her if she really believes that bullshit she was spewing because it applies to ME your GAY TRANSGENDERED Niece/Nephew!!... She shut her trap after that. I haven't seen her much after that. She treats me ok when I do see her tho. If she gets phobic on me again I'll let her have it again.And I wont be so "tolerant" next time around. I will ask her if she is really saying I am not a human being,that she wish I was dead..? if she hems and haws or makes excuses I'll punch her in the face and dare her to smear her own niece that she knew ever since she was a baby,me the queer..And I will treat her as my enemy.

And sadly it will hurt me if I ever have to do this to her. Facing the cognitive dissonance of two images. One of the kind aunt you loved and the other of a sick woman a fanatic inhabiting my aunts body turned her into a bigot and who's faith makes her hate me like some vicious rabid dog who has no mind to recognize loved ones anymore because they are GAY..It feels like A movie of invasion of the bible based body snatchers...Can these fanatics ever see through their hate to EVER know how bad their biblical brainwashing hurts gay people in their families who once loved them as their family.. Sometimes I HATE the bible and wish religion was dead and there were no churches and the brainwashed would wake up realize they are being programmed and stop being so crazy..
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:26 AM
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41. Hugs...hey don't hit her, though. That;'ll just hurt you
But I can understand your anger. Sorry you have to deal with this crap.

:hug:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #9
56. never catch me in "flyover country"
I'll gladly help refugees. but SC is a lost cause
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:53 PM
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10. Push the gay agenda into its lying, murderous grave???
Wow, what a gentle, Xtian point of view!!!

Guess I never read that bit in the bible!!! Someone musta tore those pages out!

What a putz!
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:56 PM
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11. Seriously, if I remember my fire and brimstone right, that bit's reserved
for the unjust and hypocrites. Learn something new every day, eh?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:00 AM
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12. Well, I for one am glad they're the gentle ones. I bet Matthew Sheppard
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:48 AM
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16. The Bible says eating seafood is a sin
so why aren't these people protesting Red Lobster?
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:07 AM
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17. I know what you mean,
and was wondering along the same lines. These self-described "gentle Christians" somehow can get along w/adulterers, people who work on Sunday, people who take the Lord's name in vain, people who wear clothing made of mixed fabrics, etc....


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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:19 AM
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18. ...but the only people God can't forgive are gays and liberals
:eyes: :mad:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:57 PM
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57. It's worse than you think...
Some of our most devout fundy churches hold Oyster Roasts as fund-raisers. And ALL churches in Cumberland County, except Temple Beth Israel for reasons that will soon become very obvious, have pig-pickin's as fundraisers. Pork or chicken, five dollars a plate.

Neither pork nor oysters are allowed by Mosaic Code--the same code that says it's not okay to be gay.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:41 AM
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19. The secret life of Flip
Secretly, Flip flips through BlueBoy magazine and on Sundays delivers a fiery speech on the sins of the flesh. Flip nows feels as if he's atoned for his weekly one man testimonials at the porcelain pulpit. As long as Flip can attack others for what he feels inside, Flip thinks he's cured of those feelings. His self-loathing is balanced against his self-righteousness
...until the next issue comes out, that is...

The Flips of the world are dangerous.



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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:47 AM
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21. And Flip, My Question To You Is Simple
As it is to all bigots who say they simply cannot co-exist with people who are GLBT.

What exactly is your remedy? What are you going to do about it?

Because if you cannot co-exist, if you just can't bear it, then you pretty much know the only remedy to truly bring that about, don't you?

The Question is This:

Are you prepared to go forward with it, and if you are, are you prepared to face the consequences if the targets of your convictions decide that they are going to stop you?

Think about it you piece of shit. You blubbering coward. You waste of human tissue.

Think REAL HARD.

Still feel like not co-existing Flip?

And while you're at it, just for laughs, why not be "fair and balanced" and explain to the rest of us and justify YOUR right to exist, and why we should co-exist with YOU.

I'm SURE you can put forth a convincing case.

::Sick and Tired and FED UP with these insane, dangerous people::
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:02 AM
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23. Me too "::Sick and Tired and FED UP with these insane, dangerous people::"
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:50 AM
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22. Well if they won't stay away from me
and if what they are saying is they refuse to co exist on the same planet as gay people ..Than I guess there is one option left, Get rid of them. I can't live with these pieces of shit if they will not let me live my life,even if I do my best to stay away from them..even when I already avoid them like the plague that's not good enough for these fanatics.what? That's not good enough for these fucking fanatics?..Is the death of all gays what they are asking for? Do they really seek a culture war? I hope WE kick their ass back to the backwater fringes they came from humiliated and bleeding in shame because I hate any zealot,sociopath,fascist christian shit head.. Fuck the talibornagains.
If they will not live and let live,on a planet we all have to share than they have declared open season on gays again..we can't just let them wipe us out by overt or covert means.No closet for me because who I am offends offensive fanatics.... no siree.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:48 AM
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25. If they can't coexist with the homosexual community
Then they are free to pick up and leave. I'm sure the homosexuals (and other sane people) will be more than happy to see them go.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:53 AM
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26. That's what I was thinking
I hear land is going cheap in places that agree wholeheartedly with their anti-gay views...like Baghdad, Bam, many places in Afghanistan have land going cheap. I hear the mountain regions of northern Pakistan have property available as well.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:13 AM
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27. Yes
And their cries of "Christian Persecution" would finally mean something, what with the Muslim extremists' distaste for infidels in their midst.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:22 AM
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28. Flip is just mad he can't get any.


Come on, ladies, you know you want that!

:puke:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:24 AM
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29. Murderous?
Obviously the whole thing is stupid stupid stupid stupid

But where do they get the idea that "the gay agenda" is murderous?

BIZARRE
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:25 AM
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30. Sounds like their beef is with the BDSM* community
not the gay community.

*Bondage Domination Sado-Masochism
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:44 AM
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33. Same with fundies... giving good Christians a bad rep, so it is...
with the BDSM bunch that give the homosexual community a black eye (no pun intended). Too bad the only impression these "Gentle Christians" have had of the gay community has been that of the BDSMs out in the community doing their "in-your-face" number. Really, really too bad.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:12 AM
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34. And most BDSM are heterosexuals
but you don't see the fundies tarring all heterosexuals with the same broad brush.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:19 AM
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35. No, but as far as they are concerned... EVERY homosexual on this planet
is just like the gay BDSM crowd. There can't be any homosexuals that live ordinary lives, love each other, go to work every day just like they do, and (gasp) even raise decent, loving children. They can't have a homosexual who is by all other standards "normal". At least the BDSM crowd give them what they WANT to see and believe... that ALL gays are deranged and depraved. Fits their "image" nicely (unfortunately). :puke:
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:21 AM
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40. Cough.

I'm assuming that "deranged and depraved" bit was supposed to have inverted commas around it.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:41 AM
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42. Yep, you're right I should have put it in quotation marks...
I was assuming the fundies' perceptions, not making a character judgment. However, it is not hard to see where the fundies get these ideas nonetheless.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:04 PM
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43. :-) Cough.

>However, it is not hard to see where the fundies get these "ideas" nonetheless.

Ignore me, I'm ribbing you...


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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:45 AM
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38. Does this mean the "gentle Christians" will be leaving?
Charlotte would be a much better place for it.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:47 PM
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55. I'd like them all in South Carolina, state that began the
Civil War. Having them all in SC will make it easier when we have to send Sherman in to put down their insurrection :)
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:47 AM
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39. "lying, murderous grave"?????
:wtf:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:55 PM
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45. Can someone tell me what the "radical homosexual agenda" is?
I still havent been able to figure that one out. Did I miss a meeting, or get a memo about this at all?
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:26 PM
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50. The homoseckshual agenda:
To sodomize and turn gay as many kids as possible, destroy marriage, give everyone AIDS and take over the world. Didn't you get the memo?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:02 PM
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51. Apparently I didnt get that memo...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:55 PM
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46. If they can not co-exist
Give them all bus tickets or 10-mm's.
It shouldn't be the gay community's problem that another group chooses to exist in a vacuum.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:57 PM
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47. Christianity and homosexuality are sworn enemies?
Whose Bible has "Flip" been reading?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:06 PM
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49. gentle? lol


nt
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:45 PM
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53. he should move to Keller, Texas then...where he can be w/ other homophobes
and mega-church nutbags like himself.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:45 PM
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54. Why wait for the Rapture? LEAVE NOW! (eom)
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