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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:44 PM
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Moussaoui Says He Was Behind Lindberg Baby Kidnapping
Anyone else starting to think we are about to give the death penalty to a crazy man?

Don

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MOUSSAOUI?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=HOME

Moussaoui Says He Was to Hijack 5th Plane

By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
Associated Press Writer

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- Laying out a stunning new version of his terrorist mission, al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he was supposed to hijack a fifth jetliner on Sept. 11, 2001, with would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid and fly it into the White House.

But the jury also heard the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, now in U.S. custody, repeatedly state that Moussaoui was to be a part of a second wave of attacks unrelated to Sept. 11. In a 58-page statement read to jurors, Shaikh Mohammed said that he only wanted Middle Easterners for Sept. 11 so that Europeans like Moussaoui stood a better chance of mounting a subsequent attack after security was increased.

Testifying against the advice of his court-appointed lawyers, Moussaoui shocked the courtroom. Jurors who will decide whether he is executed or imprisoned for life were almost motionless during his nearly three hours on the stand. They didn't look down to take notes; all eyes locked on the bearded 37-year-old Frenchman of Moroccan descent - the only person charged in this country in connection with Sept. 11.

His testimony started in familiar territory. He denied he was supposed to be the so-called missing 20th hijacker of Sept. 11. He testified he was not intended to be a fifth terrorist on United Airlines Flight 93 that crashed into a Pennsylvania field - the only plane hijacked by four instead of five terrorists.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:47 PM
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1. So why doesn't he identify who the other 19 hijackers were, since 9 of
them are still alive and were misidentified?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:49 PM
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2. acha!
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:50 PM
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3. posted this earlier, agrees with you
1) had Moussaoui access to information from the outside world after his arrest ? or at least after 9/11 ?
2) in that case why ?
3) if he didn't have access, how come he knows Reid ? normally a terrorist hardly knows his mates first name (which is a warname). Is Al Quaeda so amateurish ? An open confrontation could have solved that problem easily.

I wonder if he has been fed up "facts" that satisfy both : those who want to have him executed and himself, satisfying his suicidal behaviour.

I know one thing : if he is executed, Al Quaeda has won a new victory. They will boast him around as the martyr that was executed for something he didn't do.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:50 PM
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4. I think that the gift he gave to the Prosecution is just too neatly
wrapped...How convenient that he tells them exactly what they want to hear.

Yes, I think he is crazy and I don't think they should give him the death penalty.

This would be another colossal mistake the government will make...he wants to be a martyr and the government is going to give it to him on a silver platter.....

Let him rot in jail...for the rest of his life, I think he should get the same penalty that Terry Nicols from the Ok bombing received.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:51 PM
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5. Maybe his family is threatened....
So he has to be sure he gets the book thrown at himself despite the prosecutor's mishandling of the witnesses. :shrug:
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:59 PM
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8. his mother lives in France and is not threatened
fact is that he is a religious nutcase and wants to commit suicide as a "martyr"

and the prosecution is going right into the trap.

In France, nobody give's a rat's ass about him. But most people think that it is not justice to give the death penalty to someone that only planned a crime, it's vengeance.

And this is going to be used by the extremists : they will say "what about the "American Taliban", "what about the Australian guy" etc... "they are not risking death penalty"..."but he is ARAB and they'll kill him for that".

and Moussaoui can say "mission accomplished"
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:17 PM
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12. How would you know if he was told his family wouldn't be safe?
Would his family necessarily know? :shrug:
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:57 PM
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14. threatened by whom ?
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 10:58 PM by tocqueville
Al Quaeda or the CIA ? The second hypothesis is interesting...

Don't you think that his mother and brother (who has no political connection with him and condemn him) are under close surveillance from the French authorities ? We don't want any accidents to happen...

Besides his background that has been thouroughly analysed by the French, shows that you don't need to threaten him to make him follow a commitment. These guys are brainwashed, they belong to a CULT, they are in denial. And threatening the family ? so what ? more martyrs ? good...

they don't follow my of your patterns of humanity. You don't when you become a suicide-bomber.

That's why we must show our humanity when sentencing them, it makes the difference between civilization and barbary. But what does Bush know about that ?
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:55 PM
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6. must be going for insanity defense...bastard n/t
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:02 PM
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9. he IS NOT going for insanity, he is going for "suicide by cop"
can be considered as insane, but logic to him...

if he repented (and I mean honestly) that would be a BIG DEFEAT for the islamists
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:59 PM
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7. Starting to think? It was rather obvious that the light is on, but
nobody is home.
But then you could make an argument that all hijackers were insane, considering that in their mind they thought what they did was right. Which, according with our laws, would make them legally insane.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:04 PM
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10. Bwahh- hahahahah!!!!!!!!!! n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:05 PM
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11. *snort* Precisely.
If the judge has any integrity, she will be comparing his testimony to the other evidence for credibility. Wouldn't be the first confession by someone who didn't commit (or plan) the crime.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:24 PM
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13. A DP would be another Victory for al Q.
They will use his DP sentence as tool for their cause.

Maybe he is crazy like a fox? He won't be executed for at least another 10 years if the DP is imposed. By then his DP could be set aside. This case is truely bizare.

NO one that dropped the ball on this has been punished. Some have even been promoted.

The Bush Regime pre 911- LIHOP.
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