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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:20 PM
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If you can open the borders for trade, open them for people
There is no such thing as an "illegal" person!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:21 PM
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1. It's merely bringing offshoring home
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:22 PM
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3. Not really...
Employers in the US are subject to the same laws....

That's where the enforcement should be - making sure the migrant workers get paid at least min wage, not hunting them down
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:26 PM
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6. are migrant workers making min wage?
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 07:28 PM by BlueEyedSon
maybe we should just allow in all the Indian cust svc and IT peeps, pay 'em $5.15, and no visa required!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:22 PM
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2. Yep!
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:22 PM
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4. Let's just combine Mexico and the USA.
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 07:23 PM by IsItJustMe
I think that would take care of the problem from your point of view.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:26 PM
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5. oh no, combine the US with Canada!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:28 PM
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7. Open Borders
Isn't that just about what we have now?
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:34 PM
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9. How about all three countries? Then we can have our own little version of
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 07:35 PM by IsItJustMe
the European Union.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:43 PM
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11. What would we call our money???
We would have to have something comparable to the Euro. don't ya think???
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:33 PM
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13. How about 'Amercanco'?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:30 PM
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8. NAFTA, Chapter 12: Cross-Border Trade in Services says
QUOTE
Article 1202:National Treatment

1. Each Party shall accord to service providers of another Party treatment no less favorable than that it accords, in like circumstances, to its own service providers.
UNQUOTE

What prevents a service provider from Mexico from using NAFTA and offering citizens of Mexico as farm workers legally in the U.S.?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:41 PM
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10. farm workers
The problem is that so many more jobs other than farm workers are being taken by Illegal Immigrants, esp. in the Construction Industry. Also, many factory jobs, esp. the meat and poultry industry.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:46 PM
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12. Understand but could a Mexican service provider use NAFTA to bring
in what would otherwise be illegal immigrants to provide the entire range of services?
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