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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:22 PM
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So long Charlie... When they take everything away from you, will you...
still think questioning 9/11 was worth it?

Didn't you watch them destroy Kerry, McClellan, McCain and just about any other opponent they've come against? These men are ruthless in their vengeance and wicked in their hatred of those who they believe are against them. IF they can't kill you, they will destroy you to the point that you wish you were dead.

By coming out for the truth about 9/11, you are calling for the trials of Job to be delivered unto you. Everything you love will be taken from you and your life will be misery. For example, just a glimpse at "google news" reveals that your swift-boating is going to cost you more than your job (as in Kerry, McClelland and McCain's case), you stand to lose your kids and fortune as well. Kerry et alii was just humiliated and degraded. You, sir, are about to be destroyed.


National Ledger Denise Richards Worried About Charlie Sheen's Gambling
National Ledger, AZ - Mar 15, 2006
By Josh Hart. A report from The Star this week will detail that Charlie Sheen’s soon to be ex-wife is reportedly concerned about his gambling habit. ...


Insane Hollywood Left Blames Bush For 9/11
RedState, VA - Mar 22, 2006
... Actor Charlie Sheen has said on a left wing radio interview that 9/11 was a plot by President Bush to allow us to go to war. Sheen ...


Wackier than Dad?
Town Hall, DC - 7 hours ago
Lefty moonbat Charlie Sheen, who believes the Twin Towers were deliberately imploded by the government on that fateful day, is convinced that "19 amateurs with ...



National Ledger Does the Charlie Sheen Radio Rant on 9/11 Help Denise Richards?
National Ledger, AZ - 4 hours ago
By Cathy Beers. Denise Richards just got a leg up on Charlie Sheen in her divorce case if - as reported - she wants sole custody of her children. ...
Charlie Sheen Joins Conspiracy Chorus on 9/11 Attacks National Ledger


The spin is starting to churn over your head, Charlie, and it will quickly turn into a maelstrom that will seem to dwarf even the fury of Katrina. You are attacking Bush country and they fight to win. They will watch everything you do, listen to every conversation and follow every transaction. Everything you do... everything you say that can be used against you in the court of public opinion will be exposed to do you harm. It will feel like the hammer of God descending upon your head and what's going to make it worse, you will be alone.

See Charlie, everyone is going to abandon you on this one; not because they're bad people and not because you're wrong. They're going to turn on you because the truth is too frightening to face. You will never sell the people on the idea that it was this man who was responsible for 9/11...



when everyone knows it was this man...



Oh wait... sorry it was this man...



Nope... not that one either...

Maybe this guy...


Who knows... Who cares... The end result will be the same. You're about to ride down a very bad road. I suggest you reread the Book of Job and think long and hard about your choice to question 9/11... at least publicly. Your speech is still free but your questions are not. Are you really ready to pay that price?

Never Forget.

We must never question 9/11. It's unpatriotic.


"The time is fast approaching when to call a man a patriot will be the deepest insult you can offer him. Patriotism now means advocating plunder in the interest of the privileged classes of the particular State system into which we have happened to be born.”

Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy


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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:26 PM
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1. Just watched Alex Jones on Showbiz Tonight...
He tried to get alot across.

I get the sense that Charlie is going to be put to the wire and may need good factual backup.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:09 PM
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17. transcript
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 10:37 PM by slaveplanet
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/23/sbt.01.html


HAMMER: As I mentioned the radio host who interviewed Sheen is Alex Jones of the Genesis Communications Network. Alex joins me live from Austin, Texas, to talk about Sheen`s riveting comments.

Alex, as I mentioned, the response that we got from doing this story last night absolutely shocking. So I want to know how it actually all came about. How did the interview with Charlie Sheen actually happen? Did you guys reach out to him? Did he call you? What was the deal?

ALEX JONES, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Well, just to make something clear, Mr. Sheen has amazing courage to do what he`s done. And he contacted me. He`s been watching my documentaries for years. He`s one of the most informed people that I`ve talked to in Hollywood on this subject.

Listen, for years Hollywood`s been on fire with people knowing the truth about 9/11. And I was the first to expose 9/11 on the day. In fact two months before I had intel that elements of the military industrial complex were going to carry out the attack. I said they`ll use bin Laden, the known CIS. That is their patsy to take the blame for attacking the towers.

So Mr. Sheen is only exceptional in that he has courage in going public. Courage that no one else in Hollywood had.

Video http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/ShowbizTonight20060323/ShowbizTonight20060323.wmv
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:13 AM
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28. The best 9/11 book re BFEE COVER-UP =David Ray Griffin's:The 9/11 Report-
Omissions and Distortions (Amazon.com). I'ts very clear who did what & when to pull off "The New Pearl Harbor" the WH created!!!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:28 PM
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2. Sean Penn shrugged it off.
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 07:28 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
So will Charlie.

See results of quick poll: http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:28 PM
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3. Man, that was stout. And right on the effing money.
The ditches are littered with the corpses of those who dare counter or question these imperious criminals.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:30 PM
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4. Well, it's not like they have to dig real hard to get dirt on Sheen.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:34 PM
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5. Yes - and it does
not throw him into a tail spin when things are revealed about him. He just puts it out there and lets it fall where it may. Hope he is able to laugh off their attacks and keep on going on.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:56 PM
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6. What a great post, Mike! ... I met Charlie last year when they...
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 08:02 PM by Vadem
filmed an episode of West Wing on a street in my neighborhood. The filming went on for hours and seemed so incredibly boring for the actors. They kept calling CUT! and ROLL! over and over. They transformed the street by placing Victorian light posts all up and down the street. The neighbor's house where the filming took place, sent all the neighbors a card and a bottle of wine from them and West Wing, requesting patience because the street was closed off. Of course, we were all there with our bottles of wine and plastic cups and friends, and we watched and waited until 2:00 am (when the filming ceased) to meet Charlie. I walked up to him, shook his hand, and told him I appreciated him for all of his activism against the war and the other good liberal things he has been involved in. He was only a little taller than I (I'm 5'1"), which was shocking. He was very gracious to the fans.

I love President Bartlett!

P.S.: I forgot to say that I invited him to join us in DC for a Peace March that was happening the next day (it must have been a Friday night) and he said he would love to join us but had to get back to L.A. for work.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:44 PM
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11. That would be Martin Sheen, not Charlie..
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 08:45 PM by radio4progressives
Martin Sheen plays President Bartlett on West Wing...

Charlie Sheen is one of Martin's three sons... :hi:
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:46 PM
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16. Oh, goodness! You are so right! It was Martin Sheen!..
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 10:00 PM by Vadem
I guess in my mind when I saw Mike's post, I was thinking Martin; I'm surprised it wasn't Martin who brought the 9/11 thing up! It would be typical of him--however, his son, did so. I am grateful for the correction.

:toast:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:25 PM
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7. As far as it goes with a 9/11 debate now, I say Bring It On
I'm glad charlie had the guts to speak the truth.

I feel the nation could benefit greatly from re-visiting the 9/11 scene of the crime...
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:54 PM
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13. Be careful what you wish for...
If America wakes up to the truth, our society could very well collapse. We've done a lot of bad things because we believed a lie. If it wasn't Osama, what do we call the deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq? Not only from America and our vassals but from all nations who lost citizens? Will the world simply accept a self-inflicted martyrdom and allow us to continue to run roughshod over their morals, beliefs and human rights? Will the world rise up against us and face a "Nazi Regime" that used a phony terrorist attack to seize power and wage war; yet again? IF America wakes up to this reality, the world will also awaken and they will be forced to take serious action. If George Bush is a terrorist, as many of us believe, then he is a terrorist with a seizable amount of Conventional and WMD capabilities at his disposal. He would be Saddam Hussein on steroids (except he'd actually have WMD). This is not an enemy that can be confronted publicly without dire consequence. Bush and his friends must be dealt in regards to 9/11 but we have to be very smart about the way we do it.

I applaud Charlie's stand and support it wholeheartedly and yet a big part of me is worried about what happens after...

Will we be forced to fight World War 3 because some asshole lied? Will we be forced to fight for our very survival? If we are invaded, we would have to fight. If they tried to starve us, like we did to Iraq for 11 years, we'd have to fight. If they sent in covert agents to stir up sectarian violence in our "homeland", we'd have to fight. If 9/11 is totally exposed as the horrendous lie that it is... What then?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:19 PM
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19. My stance: tell the truth. Tell it without hesitation or blame.
Just tell it: at home, at work, wherever. Raise the questions that need to be raised, and investigate them.

To do less smears the world with confusion. Only truth can lead to a worthwhile resolution of core issues.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:28 AM
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21. I told one more person today as a matter of fact...
got a chance to lay out a solid case. The Charlie Sheen Swiftboating is opening up a lot of opportunity.

The question "Did you hear about what Charlie Sheen said on TV?..." Opened the dialogue right up...
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:31 PM
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8. Forgive me... BUT
WHY would you post this when this guy at least had enough balls to come out and speak his mind?

He won't be destroyed...and good for him for having the guts to come out and actually SAY what many of us have actually been thinking since 9:10 AM on 9-11-01.

I get your point, but I don't think his courage to speak out should be sarcastically made fun of -- I think it should be praised.

And BTW for clarification, I personally don't believe the WTC buildings were imploded but I do believe that 911 was a MIHOP.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:35 PM
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9. Me too.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:41 PM
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10. I didn't read the op the way you did...
i didn't see this as hit piece on Charlie, i saw it as a hit piece on the reactionaries, who are/will be setting their sights on destroying Sheen for the temerity to come out publically on this.. :shrug:



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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:54 PM
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12. You're right, I think I am shooting the messenger
I'm tired tonight and disgusted as hell with year 5 of this crap :(
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:01 PM
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14. You and me both...
But to openly support 9/11 Truth on this board usually gets your post tombstoned. As long as your not talking about the truth about 9/11, it's okay to talk about 9/11. Now, if you should happen to develop Tourette Syndrome and spout out things like..

"9/11 is a lie"

"Please Investigate 9/11 on your own."

"The Media lied about 9/11..."

And what not... It's usually okay and rarely tombstoned.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:17 PM
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15. Sorry...I see what you meant now.
Point taken and I did a knee jerk thing.

Who needs to go to Iraq when you can get PTSD just from dealing with this chimp admin for five years :(
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:15 PM
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18. Guess I'll start watching 2 1/2 Men now.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:20 PM
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20. Last week nobody was talking about it.
this week they are.

Here's to Charlie!

:yourock:
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Ufomammut Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:58 AM
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24. Precisely
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:26 AM
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25. Right on!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:08 AM
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22. Why did WTC Bldg. #7 collapse?
:shrug: Just wondering....
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:40 AM
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23. Explosives...
In the months prior to 9/11, the buildings were wired with explosives by a company named Securacom. They used the pretext of the installation of a new fire alarm system to set the charges throughout the complex. The plan was to detonate the explosives some time after the final plane, Flight 93, had struck WTC7. Unfortunately for "them", Flight 93 was either inadvertently or , for some unknown reason, purposefully shot down and they had a minor problem... No plane to explain the collapse of WTC7. See, WTC7 was home to organizations such as the the CIA, FBI, U.S. Treasury and a slew of other covert or important agencies that had collected a lot of criminal evidence on many major corporations that was destroyed on 9/11. Also, it was home to the newly re-enforced Command Bunker set up for the mayor; where some believe the attacks were overseen. I guess they figured they couldn't leave WTC7 standing since it had all of the evidence they want to bury so they decided to pull it and we watched the building come down. Larry Silverstein actually admitted to the "pulling" the building in a PBS interview sometime later. He was the new owner of the complex who is currently in a legal debate as to whether or not the attacks constituted 2 separate attacks. If it did, he stands to make a few Billion or so more. Ultimately, to get away with 9/11, they had to bring down WTC7 so "they" took a calculated risk and pulled it down. Fortunately for the Truth, they did a terrible job of covering it up. I guess you can't destroy a perfectly good building and the Truth in one blow, they're both going to leave a lot of smoke behind. Some people are bound to notice; in spite of the amazingly effective Shock and Awe campaign designed to frighten us into accepting any cockamamie story they cooked up to land us in Afghanistan, Iraq, et alii.


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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:22 PM
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29. That's the best explanation I've seen! Because that building imploding
the way it did (and as far as it is from the other buildings) just made absolutely no sense to me....

Someday, the truth will be revealed....
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:27 AM
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26. I'm glad Charlie spoke out.
Your post is great the way you've shown how the powers that be are doing him the same way they did Kerry and others.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:10 AM
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27. It's easy to intimidate actors. People hate them.
People are very envious of actors, who make all kinds of money for doing nothing. At least in the view of people who aren't actors.

And people love tearing down the famous, once the bloom is off the rose. Look at what happened to Michael Jackson, O.J. Simpson and Jane Fonda. People can swallow envy for only so long, then they have to turn on their idols.

Of course, it works the other way, too. Look at what's happening to Bush. He was as pretentious as any self-promoting actor, as undeserving of any real acclaim. People could laugh at his silliness, as long as everything seemed to be going right. Now they're not laughing. Much like Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon and other people who concentrated more on image than substance, Bush is becoming a figure to despise.

(By comparison, only the hard-core right wing really hates or gets any mileage on Bill Clinton. And while people thought Jimmy Carter was a wimp, his post-Presidential career has cemented his image as a decent Christian who actually practices his ideals.)
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