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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:43 PM
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What should Democrats do with their Senate bomb-thrower?
Have the Democrats actually learned from their mistakes? At this rate, we should be back on top in only a decade or so!

http://www.slate.com/id/2138169/

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But, alas for journalists, the factions in the Senate seem to have found their script and toned down the infighting. Feingold did not renew his challenge to his colleagues' manhood in his press conference Thursday morning. Democrats who disagree with Feingold were talking less about how he was helping his presidential primary chances and more about how they share his frustration with incomplete answers from the White House and lackluster oversight by the Republicans in the majority.

Perhaps this will help Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid realize that it's not such a bad thing to have a bomb-thrower around. The firestorm may provide an opportunity for Reid to define what the majority of Democrats in Washington want. It is certainly getting the media to pay attention to the long-limp Senate Dems. Feingold has gathered an audience bigger than any Reid and Co. might have drawn to their dutifully planned events. If Reid and other Democrats want to make the case that the party understands security issues and wants the government to use every tool at its disposal—two things Feingold's critics say are imperiled by his move—then Reid can make that case in front of all of those microphones now pointed at Democrats.

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What Reid shouldn't do is pull a Pelosi: respond to a bomb-thrower with confusion and delay. As the Senate minority leader met with other Democrats and his advisers after Feingold introduced the measure on Monday, they all recognized the press would leap on Feingold's idea the way it had on Rep. John Murtha's call for the quick redeployment of troops in Iraq. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had first opposed Murtha and isolated him, but then several days later said she supported him. It was a twofer: She reanimated the cartoon of the Democratic flip-flopper, while offering no more clarity on the party's position on troops. So, Reid called for calm without endorsing Feingold but also without slapping him down for his unpredictable and untimely move.

The test now is whether Democrats can have it both ways, allowing Feingold to continue agitating while not letting Republicans use him to define the party as weak on terrorism. How will activists react when Democratic leaders return to their preplanned messages on health care, prescription drugs for the elderly, and Iraq without pushing Feingold's charge? On that, the senator from Wisconsin may give his party leaders an assist by declaring an early symbolic victory. "Although I am sincere in wanting to pass this resolution," he said Thursday, "my objective has already been achieved."


John Dickerson is Slate's chief political correspondent. He can be reached at
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:47 PM
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1. Great article!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:48 PM
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3. yes
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:47 PM
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2. I suggest the Dems pick up the 'symbolic grenades' at their feet and
join Russ in THROWING THEM !!!

Tip to all Dems: If you hold the grenade too long, it will explode in YOUR face.

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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:51 PM
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4. More Americans support Censure than oppose it according to
46 percent of Americans (48 percent of voters) support Sen. Russ Feingold’s censure resolution, while 44 percent (43 percent of voters) oppose the idea, according to an American Research Group poll.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:29 PM
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6. My reply was that the Dems should JOIN the bombthrower (Feingold)
I posted about the American Research Group poll earlier today...
70% of Dems // 42% of Independents // 29% of Republicans support Feingold's cesure resolution.

It is *amazing* that about 1/3 of Republicans support censuring the President - the Dems should RUN with this opportunity!

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 09:35 AM
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8. better to give than receive
where explosives are concerned!

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:05 PM
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5. yet ANOTHER new article referencing Russ and an explosive
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/16/AR2006031601303.html

Can Democrats Play This Game?

Russ Feingold tossed a political grenade at President Bush this week, but it fell into the middle of the Senate Democratic Caucus. Many Democratic senators ran away.

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But Democrats, unlike Republicans, have yet to develop a healthy relationship between activists willing to test and expand the conventional limits on political debate and the politicians who have to calculate what works in creating an electoral majority.

For two decades, Republicans have used their idealists, their ideologues and their loudmouths to push the boundaries of discussion to the right. In the best of all worlds, Feingold's strong stand would redefine what's "moderate" and make clear that those challenging the legality of the wiretapping are neither extreme nor soft on terrorism.

That would demand coordination, trust and, yes, calculation involving both the vote-counting politicians and the guardians of principle among the activists. Republicans have mastered this art. Democrats haven't.

Turning a minority into a majority requires both passion and discipline. Bringing the two together requires effective leadership. Does anybody out there know how to play this game?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:30 PM
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7. Wow! The media helping the Dems... Wow! (n/t)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 05:26 PM
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9. kick
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