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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:41 PM
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Scotty the liar is distancing the chimp from this air assault...
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:42 PM by Webster Green
He's saying that the military commanders made the decision with no input from the chimp administration.

I'm calling bullshit on that one. Gimme a fucking break.:eyes:

I guess they are saying this to deflect any criticism that the air strikes are meant to bolster the war-chimp's poll numbers.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:42 PM
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1. Commander in chief ie Bush
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:42 PM
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2. Errr. Commander-in-Chief. Ring a bell? These actions don't happen
without the President giving the go-ahead.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:44 PM
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3. Commander-in-NOTHING!
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:45 PM by hexola
WHO THE HELL IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY!!!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:44 PM
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4. Bush is busy re-reading My Pet Goat
Scottie: "Yes, he is AWOL again. As usual."


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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:45 PM
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5. So now he's Colonel Klink? n/t
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:16 PM
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14. Not even...He's Sgt. Schultz
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:46 PM
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6. We are in Iraq because of the bush administration.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:51 PM by Botany
Quit giving me bull shit on toast and keep telling me that it is country style apple butter.

The bombing, the deaths, the ruin, the money, the broken lives, the terrorists created,
and bin Laden still breathing are all due to bush & company.



God wanted this war?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:47 PM
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7. OK, Scotty! So you're really saying
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:59 PM by Whoa_Nelly
This administration is so out of control that NO ONE is leading! Global impact decisions are unilaterally being made by different people in different places and NO ONE can be held accountable. And if things don't go well, turn out very badly, then the blame can go to A FEW BAD APPLES!

:wtf: :nuke: :wtf:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:47 PM
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8. Any attack with more than 30 civilian casualties are predictied requires..
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:52 PM by IanDB1
...permission from a general.

Someone mentioned that rule yesterday on either NPR or AAR and talked about a computer program called BUGSPLAT that they use to predict civilain casualties.

I wonder how big this strike was, and how far up the chain of command they needed to go to authorize it.

"BUGSPLAT" PREDICTS BOMBS' IMPACT

One of the reasons that so many civilians are killed by "precision" munitions is that a bomb's effects are usually estimated by simply drawing a circle around the target.

But the U.S. military has developed new software that more accurately predicts the impact of a bomb, the Washington Post reports. The unfortunately-named "Bugsplat" program takes into account the terrain being struck, the size and shape of the weapon, the altitude from which it's being dropped.

The Post predicts that Bugsplat will be ready for an attack on Iraq.

More:
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000131.html


See also:

The language of war

Nicholas Watt
Tuesday April 8, 2003
The Guardian

Decoding the military jargon

· Bug Splat

With typical sensitivity the Pentagon has dreamt up this term, with its shades of a blitzkreig-style computer game, to describe the bombing of Iraq.

The crude language, however, hides a highly complex process to calculate how to strike a target. Lengthy mathematical equations are used to assess the effects of a bomb on a target and the surrounding areas.

The size, direction and angle of the weapon are all taken into account as the planners assess what type of bomb should be dropped to destroy the target while minimising civilian casualties.

More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,932044,00.html


Also:

Untold Stories: ‘Modern-Day Bombardier’
A bird’s eye view of the air campaign from the cockpit

By Martha Brant
Newsweek Web Exclusive

April 10 - Maj. Mike Jaggers, whose call sign is Mick, has been flying for a dozen years and he’s never seen anything like the air war he’s been fighting these last few weeks.

The 37-year-old weapons-systems officer mans the computer in his F-15E Strike Eagle while the pilot steers. He runs his targets through a computer program nicknamed Bug Splat, which helps make his bombing so precise that he is dropping munitions in windows rather than on whole buildings. “I am the modern-day bombardier,” he says.

<snip>

The first week of the war, Jaggers always knew where his targets were when he left base. These days, it’s more likely that he’ll have a “target of opportunity” come up when he’s flying. Some days he’ll lie in wait up there in “air orbit” for someone on the ground to call in CAS (close air support) mission. When he gets word on his headset about coordinates of a possible target, he goes to work on the computer to complete a CDE, collateral damage estimate. Bug Splat helps him determine what kind of bomb to use, from how high to drop it, what kind of fuse it needs. But before he drops a bomb in an urban setting like Baghdad, he gets a PID, positive ID. “I physically see the target and check the surrounding area,” he says. “If it’s ever in doubt, bring the bomb home.”

More:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3068366/site/newsweek/
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:16 PM
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15. BUGSPLAT!!?? BUGSPLAT??!!
fucking INHUMAN moron killers!!!!????

OMG!!!!!
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:49 PM
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9. Yeah - and he didn't know about the port deal
or that Katrina would breach the levies either.

Anyone else see a pattern?
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:52 PM
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10. What a load of crap!
How does that bloated fuck of a mouthpiece sleep at night?!

:puke:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:06 PM
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11. Gimme a break...
I call bullshit as well...

Wonder if they'll target any "aspirin factories" while they're at it... :eyes:

This is so fucking obvious....

Apparently "major assaults" that keep the pretzeldent out of the loop are the new "terra alerts" seeing as how nobody is buying that bullshit anymore...
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:09 PM
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12. Scottie is trying to build up plausible deniability
for his dear chimpenfeuhrer.

Plausible deniabilty for when the bombers over-run their targets and strike Tehran.

Just watch him try to pull a Ronald Reagan... "who me???"
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:11 PM
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13. Largest air assault since 2003, and they had nothing to do with it.
Yeah, THAT'S believable.:sarcasm:
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