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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:56 AM
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Rep. Curt Weldon: "bin Laden has died in Iran"

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/14099912.htm

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Yet even as his story triggers more and more questions, Weldon is making explosive new allegations. He says a high-level source has told him that terrorist leader Osama bin Laden has died in Iran, where he has been in hiding.

He also maintains that the Bush administration suppressed information about the Able Danger program out of concern it might be embarrassed by disclosures that it failed to follow up leads that might have helped avert the plot.

"Am I going to take on something that is a challenge? Absolutely," Weldon said in a lengthy interview last week. "I'm not here to kiss people's butts. I'm here to do what's right. And if sometimes that means I have to push someone, well what are we here for?"

Weldon's allegations are the latest in a long skein of alarming scenarios that the Delaware County congressman has unspooled as he has sought to draw attention to what he seems to fervently believe are the nation's military and intelligence vulnerabilities

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:57 AM
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1. Interesting - wonder who his "source" is?
this bears worth watching
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:59 AM
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2. oh yes, since OBL died in Iran it has to be invaded?
so that's where he was hiding?:sarcasm: not in condi's freezer after all?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:01 AM
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3. if we invade Iran and don't find Osama's body
Bill O'Reilly will apologize and never trust Curt Weldon again.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:02 AM
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5. LOL.
OBL's body will be in Syria next year. :D
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:05 AM
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8. Oh man, I'm seeing Weekend at Bernies with OBL now lol

Freaking Bush and Cheney loggin him around the world to take pictures.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:06 AM
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10. !
:spray: "Thanks Bern"
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:06 AM
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11. LOL.
"OMG -- There's OBL at the Eiffel Tower -- and there is again at the Great Wall! Hmmm ... why is he wearing sunglasses?"
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:07 AM
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13. BWAH!
:spray:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:18 AM
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17. It'll be the bigger than the Reagan's Dead Body North American tour! n/t
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:05 AM
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9. What would happen if they found him on the beach in Israel?
sorry we will have to invade you got Osama!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:01 AM
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4. This guy wouldn't be a kook by any chance would he be? n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:03 AM
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6. The Moussaoui trial had to be stopped
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:04 AM
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7. Uh-oh...Weldon's leaking again
If it's true that OBL is dead, I wonder how Bush feels about him taking that intelligence public. Or, maybe....
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:07 AM
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14. He Got It From Able Danger...LOL
Weldon's like the Repugnican village idiot now. Even if this were true, he's blown his credibility on both the right and the left and no one believes him.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:07 AM
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12. Mr. Weldon, one word
Proof?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:10 AM
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15. If we invade Iran
I'll bet it will turn out they only had Osama bin Laden program related activities.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:15 AM
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16. Has anyone thought to have him removed from Congress and committed?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:19 AM
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18. I've never seen a clear link
with Iran and Al Qaeda. There's no doubt that the mullahs in Iran support terrorism (especially Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad), but Al Qaeda I believe is mostly Sunni/Wahhabi. I haven't heard of it having a huge Shia component to it.

After all, Iran had a cooling of relations with Pakistan at the time the Taliban took over, and they were not very upset to see them go.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:20 AM
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19. My question is, 'when?'
Before, or after the last couple tapes came out?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:44 AM
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20. I don't give a fuck about Weldon Why wasn't Clinton - 9/11 Com. told
about ABLE DANGER?

Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678



BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER
WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4500623

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1796658&mesg_id=1796658


NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1795221&mesg_id=1795221

NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4836496

Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4846388&mesg_id=4846388

VIDEO-the Senate Judicial Committee ABLE DANGER saga
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Official: (Curt Weldon) Attack on Cole foreseen (ABLE DANGER)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1915365&mesg_id=1915365

New 9/11 Timeline update, with new Able Danger page
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Weldon seeks Defense testimony on al-Qaida
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1931300

Weldon rips 9/11 commission over intelligence failures
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1959226

General gave OK for Able Danger (confirms al-Qaida mission prior to 9/11)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1973724
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:31 AM
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21. Thanks for your post
Atta is still alive though?
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