Question: Why would Iran support IED attacks, if IEDs are done by Sunnis?

[BeyondThePale]

My understanding was that we blamed IED attacks on Sunni/Bathist/Saddamist insurgents...
My understanding is that Shia Iran supports the Shia majority in Iraq...
So, why would there be a connection between Iran and IED attacks?

I don't get it... (of course, there is not much about this insanity that I do understand)

[baldguy]

1. It makes complete sense

If you believe Saddam had WMDs & was connected to 911.

[harpo]

2. anything to push blame in Iran for the soon to come invasion over there

[htuttle]

3. It doesn't make sense

It's not even 'truthy'.

[formercia]

4. Shhh, you just blew a hole in Fearless Leader's excuse.

The administration thinks everyone is stupid enough to believe their crap.

[BeyondThePale]

10. I'm sorry, I won't do it again; please don't send me to Gitmo...

[watrwefitinfor]

5. There you go again

Trying to inject logic into the situation.

Wat

[Inland]

6. I guess admin is back to not trying to tell "them" apart.

When it suits their purposes, hey, it's a section of the world filled with "them".

[HamdenRice]

7. Same rationale as Bush: Fight em over there so we don't have to

fight em over here.

Or as the old Middle East saying goes: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[Neil Lisst]

8. it's part of the disinformation strategery

They start throwing in the connections to Iran, almost as throw away comments, like "made in Iran."

Does anyone get to ask "how do we know? Anything to back that up? Why would the Shia be helping the Sunni insurgents?"

Which are the "terrorists" now, Bush, the ones killing Shiia or the ones killing Sunnis?

[Ravenseye]

9. Chaos helps them

Sunnis are blowing up Shia, and Shia are blowing up Sunni. It all favors Iran. It keeps the U.S. bogged down with a high commitment of forces which prevents them from marching on Tehran, as well as causing more and more chaos in Iraq, which will eventually favor the Shia side since there are far more of them.

I wouldn't be surprised if there has been talk amongst the Iranian leaders about trying to eventually annex Iraq, though first with a Shia government in place (ala Vichy France).

Now this isn't reason to invade or nuke Iran of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is some level of support for IED's from Iran. Not the Iranian people mind you, but certain factions of the government.

[BeyondThePale]

11. Interesting, although I doubt *'s level of analysis runs that deep!

He is more interested in:
-keeping Americans scared
-creating a new enemy to vilify (to keep Americans scared)
-obscuring the facts to serve his own agenda

[Ravenseye]

13. Oh no doubt

1) Keep people afraid, 2) Get people pointing at Iran, 3) Obscure the truth.

Sadly they're very effective. So effective that even most people here on DU don't really grok what's actually going on over there.

[NNN0LHI]

12. The USA supplied weapons to both sides during the Iran/Iraq war

I would be shocked if someone in Iran (maybe not the government?) wasn't selling weapons to ALL sides in Iraq if there was a buck to be made. Iranians are no less businessmen than Americans are.

Same thing goes for Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc.

I can't figure out whats so hard to understand about this?

Don

[BeyondThePale]

15. Actually Gen. Pace said there is no evidence...

Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff, said today he has no evidence the Iranian government has been sending military equipment and personnel into neighboring Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031401083.html

Besides, I think the real issue is that * is using this as a smokescreen to incite anti-Iranian sentiment

[Ravenseye]

17. They just have no idea

Is there evidence? No. There probably never could be either. That border is very long, very rugged, and very unpatrolled now thanks to us disbanding the Iraqi army...

I don't think that Iran is loading up trucks with prefab IED's and shipping them to Karbala...well...I guess it's possible, but I highly highly doubt that. Could Iran have sent in a couple of single guys, like our green beret's, to teach the Shia how to make their own IED's? Easily.

Of course that's not what Bush was saying. Bush was practically saying that the roadside bombs in Baghdad are being placed by Iranian soldiers, which is just horseshit. From the begining this government has lied about foreign involvement in Iraq. Most of the shit in Iraq is being done by Iraqi's of one faction or another, while the vast majority of innocent people there cower in fear, or try and figure out how to flee the country which is growing more and more difficult.

[genie_weenie]

14. The Badr Corps and SCIRI

have imported weapons into Iraq. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3769991.stm

Most of the IEDs in Western Iraq (Anbar) originate from the local (Anbar) area. IED Design ideas difuse across Iraq within a few months.

Of course, the real issue is post-invasion and even up till April 2005, there were many armories unsecured by US/Coalition forces. This is because we've only ever had "just" enough forces to stop an all-out civil war but, not enough to stop tribal revenge killing, destruction of mosques, attacks on minorities or safety for US targets... uh, I mean troops.

The * Admin aren't going ot blame themselves for destroying Iraq and failing to provide the military any hope of "success".

This is such a miserable failure.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/story?id=1692347&page=1

[sam sarrha]

16. please understand that Reason is not a factor here.. Blood enemies who

have a common enemy are allies.

Islam never had a an age of reason.. there was never a Reformation that defined what Islam Is..

it is all left up to who sponsors the Mosque.. the Mosque totally controls the neighborhood. they move in do some charity work and soon everybody who drinks out of the well they put it is strong armed into sending their children to Arab Islamic School where they will memorize the Koran word for word in a language they may not speak.. they will endure 5 years of brainwashing from age 5.

the enemy of my enemy is my friend.. till that enemy is vanquished at least.

[george_hurley]

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