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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:20 PM
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Idiot Repuke: Slavery Good for Blacks
The dirty filthy piece of trash :grr:


http://www.kpbj.com/opinioneditorial/articles/2006-03-13-EDT-02.html

POLITICS
Why do blacks continue to support Democrats?
By Adele Fergusen
One of these days before I die, I hope to see a shift in the attitudes of so many of my black brothers and sisters in this great country we share, from perpetual victimhood, to pride in their achievements on the road from slave to American citizen.

Remember Ronald Reagan’s story about the kid who had to shovel a huge pile of manure? He went about it with such joy he was asked why and said, “With all that manure, there’s got to be a pony in there somewhere.”

The pony hidden in slavery is the fact that it was the ticket to America for black people. I have long urged blacks to consider their presence here as the work of God, who wanted to bring them to this raw, new country and used slavery to achieve it. A harsh life, to be sure, but many immigrants suffered hardships and indignations as indentured servants. Their descendants rose above it. You don’t hear them bemoaning their forebears’ life the way some blacks can’t rise above the fact theirs were slaves.

Besides freedom, a job and a roof over their heads, they all sought respect. But even after all these years, too many have yet to realize that to get respect, you have to give it.

The treatment given President Bush at Coretta King’s funeral was shameful. And these weren’t poor, uneducated black people who “dissed” him. They were among the country’s top-drawer blacks, there to bury black royalty. While Bush got the cold shoulder, former President Clinton was welcomed as if he still held the office.

It mystifies me why the black population remains in thrall to the Democratic party. Black parents want a good education for their children yet they are consistently denied two opportunities that have proven enormously helpful in the few places where they are allowed because the D’s oppose them. School vouchers and charter schools.

The teacher unions, among top contributors to the Democratic party, oppose them for fear of losing control of the public schools which continue to turn out kids who have to be slipped through graduation by finding alternatives to standard requirements for learning, and where black kids fall behind whites. And what the teacher unions are against, the Democrats are against. Many a school board member is a Democratic activist there to be on the ground floor against vouchers and charter schools.

In the few places where vouchers to attend private schools and innovative charter schools are allowed, the unions file lawsuits claiming damage to the public schools by diverting the voucher money to poor families and limiting as much as possible the number of students who can attend the charters. They won one in Florida last month.

Sure, the ultimate solution is to jack up the performance of the public schools, but so long as the unions are running the show, that isn’t going to happen. The unions don’t care if you’re a good teacher, just that you’re a member and pay your dues. It is nearly impossible to get rid of an incompetent teacher. Their interest is themselves, not the kids, and their answer to the poor performance of the schools is more money.

Black students regularly trail white students because they get the more inexperienced and less qualified teachers and are plagued by low expectations. Results of the use of vouchers and charter schools have been outstanding, yet the Democrats say no, so why do black parents support them? Why do they act the victim?

Blacks have no Cesar Chavez. Jesse Jackson isn’t going to buck the Democratic Party. Neither is the NAACP. Black parents should confront Democratic leaders at all levels and demand these tools of learning be made available or expanded or don’t count on our vote for your candidates. You’ve let the unions keep your kids down too long already.

(Adele Ferguson can be reached at P.O. Box 69, Hansville, Wa., 98340.)
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:23 PM
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1. Hmmm... damn vouchers
Tell it to 'em bucky bob!! Looky all that GB did for the folk in NO. :)
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:28 PM
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2. David Horowitz and Dinesh D'Sousa also put out this line.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:27 PM
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27. Horowitz is a terrorist.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:33 PM
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3. Adele Ferguson is the pile of manure!
But many immigrants suffered hardships and indignations as indentured servants? First of all, indentured service was VOLUNTARY. Blacks did not VOLUNTEER to come over here. THEY WERE TAKEN HERE BY FORCE IN CHAINS!! Picking cotton was NOT a choice Africans made either.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:36 PM
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4. Fucking unbelievable
next thing you know they'll be demanding Black people pay for the slavery experience their ancestors had since it was such so beneficial. :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:40 PM
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6. Geez, don't give them any ideas!
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:40 PM
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5. Then
why doesn't Adele Ferguson go pick a bail of cotton for no pay. And why doesn't she go live in a shithouse?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:42 PM
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7. Who would be foolish to imagine it's good for a person to be taken
by force across an enormous ocean, one he/she knows he'll never cross again, far away from his homeland, his family, friends, identity, customs, to be thrown among strangers speaking a different language, knowing he'll NEVER, NEVER, NEVER see the ones he loves again in his lifetime, and that from the moment on, if he displeases someone he will be harmed?

My god. It's a wonder people just didn't go mad.

I despise people who would play with this filthy matter lightly to get attention. I couldn't hate them more.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:44 PM
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8. What a load of ... manure. This person is seriously deranged. nt
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collegegirl211 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:45 PM
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9. fuck adele
that stupid bitch needs to be locked up in a mental ward as an african american woman myself I'm so ashamed shes black
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:44 PM
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34. She looks pretty white to me, actually.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:45 PM
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10. From the "well, duh" department:
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 08:46 PM by Kerrytravelers
While Bush got the cold shoulder, former President Clinton was welcomed as if he still held the office.

Maybe this is because Clinton didn't ignore the obvious and DROWN poor people. :shrug:





I guess, according to some, this African-America infant deserves to drown, too, because she was unable to get out.


People like the fool who works against his own people are just pure :crazy:
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:47 PM
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11. You WP kills me, sometimes. n/t
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:47 PM
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12. Yeah, thank God they were rescued from their future
in Colonial Africa by the benevolent slave traders.

Geez, aren't you glad you were enslaved and brought to America before we REALLY f*cked up YOUR continent? How fortunate!

:wtf:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:48 PM
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13. Speaking of education, her knowledge of history is appalling.
As if the plight of Black citizens just dropped out of the air without the aid of the white majority that still sees them as "lazy", "ignorant", "dependent", and all the usual crap spread by the same kind of people who enslaved them, tortured them, oppressed them, disenfrachised them, ridiculed them, and patronized them for the last 3 centuries.



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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 12:08 AM
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38. Ya think she'd even come close to comprehending ...
... this?? Nawww .... :eyes:

Her and Ann Coulter would get along great. :puke:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:30 AM
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39. Beautifully stated. No, she would not, get it, or, even care.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:17 AM
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52. That's A Really Good Piece, Nut!
The Professor
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:26 PM
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57. Grazie, il mio buon amico.
It takes some non-trivial effort for analytical me to spit a little of my heart out through the tips of my fingers while "keeping it real." It doesn't come easy to get into that 'zone'. That it resonates with something good and honest in another person makes it worthwhile.
:pals: :yourock:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:48 PM
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14. I've read her crap for years...
.. she lives about three miles away from me.

She is so full of shit her eyes are brown.

Another great argument for slavery is that slaves became too valuable to use in dangerous or unhealthy jobs... so they hired Irish, and later Chinese, workers. They were a lot cheaper.

This lesson was not lost on Capitalists. They learned slavery was not economically sound. Why feed and house your slaves if you can work them half to death and pay them just enough to stay alive, but never dig their way out of wage-slavery?

We're all just (the N word) to the slave-owning corporations?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:48 PM
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15. Is this the same Adele Ferguson who wrote this piece of crap?



In this article, she sticks her gnarly, warted snout into the affairs of some working poor.
http://www.goanacortes.com/articles/2005/07/13/columnists/ferguson.txt

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`


She's a true Republican.

Interesting choice of Bush photos, by the way in the original article. It's one you really don't see often, and there's probably a good reason.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:09 PM
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16. I think she should try out slavery herself
if she thinks that it is such a hot deal. I am sure that if she contacts the NAACP with a copy of those remarks there would be a slew of black folks who would like to have her as their personal servant complete with the beatings and the rape and the separation from family.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:15 PM
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17. So, what's being said here is, GOD wanted people to own each other?
Ai yi yi :scared:
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:08 AM
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49. Of course he did!
God, it seems, is totally pro-slavery.

overview: http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl.htm
old testament: http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl1.htm
new testament: http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl2.htm

Ai yi yi indeed.
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Texacrat Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:17 PM
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18. I thought his party freed the blacks from slavery
n/t
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:19 PM
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19. The voice of hate on the Kitsap Peninsula!
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:20 PM by Fenris
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:21 PM
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20. Hansville!
Good gods, we drove through that burg!!! Not too far from Port Gamble.

What a racist half-wit.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:23 PM
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21. Truly frightening.
I love her cop-out theology. God made you slaves so you could live in America. Thanks a lot, God.

If my perception of God was one who meddled like that I'd still be an atheist.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:24 PM
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23. Yeah
She looks like she's sucking on battery-acid too. Lovely woman, really. I'm sure she's a real joy to be around. :grr:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:26 PM
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25. She's like an aged Colm Meaney
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:27 PM
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26. The resemblance is uncanny!
:o
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:27 PM
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28. He must be moonlighting!
:o
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:23 PM
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22. And those stupid Indians should be glad we killed and kicked 'em out
And finally did something with the place, right?

:mad:
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:26 PM
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24. Yea, like Unions are the problem
As if the Unions do not provide families with good wages and bennies. Thats just terrible for black families. Theyd be better off working at the walmarts that these repukes have brought in to replace the good union jobs they outsourced.

And with bush cutting pell grants , thats advantageous for black families. un huh.

These types should be in prison. Im serious. These people should be put in a prison somewhere for the evil they are bringing.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:29 PM
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29. If a pony is buried in a pile of manure, it's a dead pony
What a stupid metaphor!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:57 AM
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44. Great response to people when they spew that pony/manure
story, which I've heard before.

This woman must be batshit crazy. I quit reading after

"The pony hidden in slavery is the fact that it was the ticket to America for black people..."
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:35 PM
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30. Slavery good, labor unions bad.
Did this guy ever stop the think that maybe the lord jesus christ is using the evil unions to grant good working conditions to the black schoolteachers of America.

So what do we do with these people? Seriously. Can we get them on the same footing as Nazis and apologist for slavery.

Oh wait, they ARE apologists for slavery.

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:36 PM
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31. What does God want? To get it, will God use slavery in the future?
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:47 PM by Boojatta
I have long urged blacks to consider their presence here as the work of God, who wanted to bring them to this raw, new country and used slavery to achieve it.

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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:38 PM
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32. Is she related to Babs?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:41 PM
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33. Anybody know how much the UAE pays for a healthy white woman?
If it's such a good deal, Adele should sign up.

:shrug:
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Tera Moran Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:05 PM
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35. Unreal
"I have long urged blacks to consider their presence here as the work of God, who wanted to bring them to this raw, new country and used slavery to achieve it."

It wasn't the work of God, you fuckwad. It was the work of white, hateful, racist men.

Typical Republican trash. If it was up to her slavery would still be here today.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:32 PM
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36. And Hitler did he Jews a big favor...
...by gassing them en masse, to put them out of the misery of anti-semitism.

The Moonie view, seriously, is that the Holocost was supposed to happen so the Jews could pay indemnity for killing Jesus. It was God's will.

When will the insanity end?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:42 PM
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37. Who knew they'd miss the irony in Sail Away
In America you'll get food to eat
Won't have to run through the jungle
And scuff up your feet
You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day
It's great to be an American

Ain't no lions or tigers
Ain't no mamba snake
Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake
Ev'rybody is as happy as a man can be
Climb aboard, little wog
Sail away with me

Sail away
Sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away
Sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

In America every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
You're all gonna be an American

Sail away
Sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away
Sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:38 AM
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40. Idiot
(Not you)

This writer knows absolutely nothing about how the teacher's union works, and apparently hasn't done any kind of research into "succesful" charter schools in Texas.

Thanks to those unions, teachers get treated with (some) respect, get pensions, and schools get certified and regulated.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:45 AM
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41. Gee, why DO blacks support Democrats?
Maybe it's because of idiotic statements like this that keep coming from the right?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:46 AM
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42. I guess
by this logic, Hitler was doing the work of God. After all, had the holocaust not occured, it would have been tougher to get the state of Israel founded.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:50 AM
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43. i had a cousin
who said his history professor at the University of Florida was using the same line...
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Bushy Being Born Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:40 AM
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45. Well, Muhammad Ali said basically the same thing
when returning from his first African match.

"Champ, what did you think of Africa?"

"Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat."
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:51 AM
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47. Thank God his granddy wasn't killed on the way over here.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:13 AM
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50. When has Muhammad Ali come out in favor of vouchers?
That's the "cause" she linked with defense of slavery.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:46 AM
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46. Blink. What?

Who will be fooled by this pie in the sky?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:56 AM
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48. What pisses these wing nuts off is that Blacks are not as stupid as Whites
who vote against their own economic interests.

The repubs stay in power largely because they can convince red state white people to vote for them even though their policies hurt most of those people who are working class. Black don't fall for that shit.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:13 AM
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51. Immigrants?? "Indentured servants??!!
but many immigrants suffered hardships and indignations as indentured servants

Doesn't the term "immigrant" imply a willing relocation? And "indentured servants"? Please, they were fucking slaves.

I've never been one to condone violence, but this woman should be beaten, smeared with peanut butter, and thrown into a pit of rabid rats.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:23 AM
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53. Other descendants of immigrants don't look back to past abuses?
With the upcoming holiday, the TV has been full of Irish-American history. The coffin ships that brought people here during the Great Famine were sometimes refitted slavers. And the sharks got fat feasting on Irish who did not make it all the way. Then, Irish immigrants were met by Know-Nothings & signs that "No Irish Need Apply." (Most of my own people came a bit later than the Famine Irish. Or a bit earlier--& later tried to differentiate themselves from the rabble by inventing the term "Scots-Irish.")

Of course, anyone can see that slaves had it far worse. I would venture that they & The Original Americans are tied for Shittiest Deal.

I'm sure that many upstanding WASP's would never be tasteless enough to complain about the rough life of their forebears. I guess they've forgotten that Coming Over on the Mayflower was no picnic.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:26 AM
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54. Fomenting a political civil war
That's all this crap is.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:28 AM
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55. Another self-loathing lawn jockey
trotted out by the RW neo-con scum to sway those "swing voters". Obviously, she has no knowledge of US history. :eyes:
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:47 AM
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56. Her PO Box is at the bottom of the OP
And it's on the website.

A little letter writing campaign to this hate filled, blinkered woman?

And possibly to the Kitsap Penisula paper and the other one she writes for?

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