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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:00 AM
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TruthIsAll: "This is the BEST post I have ever written."
“This is the BEST post I have ever written.. “
From: TruthIsAll
Date: Dec 11th 2005



That’s right, it’s official. Of the 12,000 plus posts, this is the best, in TIA’s estimation.

Take a look and, by all means, share this.

There are those who may show up and criticize this post. That’s fine. It’s their right.
It’s also our right to IGNORE them.

There is no more debate: Bush stole the election (again). The events before and on
election day show that and the tremendous analysis of TIA and others show it too.
Case closed for debate. Time to convince the masses.

MOVE THIS POST AS FAR AND WIDE AS YOU CAN


...and always include these links

TruthIsAll Collection by DU User Byronius

TruthIsAll: The 2004 Election Collection by Dr.Debug]

TruthIsAll


The Law of Large Numbers & Central Limit Theorem: A Polling Simulation
by TruthIsAll



This is for everyone who voted in 2004 or plans to vote in 2006.

IT'S FOR THOSE who say: "Math was my worst subject in high school". If you've ever placed a bet at the casino or race track, or played the lottery, you already know the basics. It's about probability. It's about common sense. It's not all that complicated.

It's for those who have taken algebra, probability or statistics and want to see how the math is applied to election polling.

It's for graduates with degrees in mathematics, political science, an MBA, etc. who may or may not be familiar with simulation concepts. Simulation is a powerful tool for analyzing uncertainty in simple and complex models. Like coin flipping and election polling.

It's for Excel spreadsheet users who enjoy creating math models.

It's for reporters, blogs and politicians who seek the truth: Robert Koehler, Brad Friedman, John Conyers, Barbara Boxer, Mark Miller, Fitrakis, Wasserman, USCV, Dopp, Freeman, Baiman, Simon, Alistair Thompson, Paul Krugman, Keith Olberman, Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, Joseph Cannon, Sam Seder, Janeane Garofalo, etc.

It's for theNetizens who frequent Discussion Forums.

It's for Corporate Media reporterswho are still waiting for editor approval to discuss documented incidents of vote spoilage, vote switching and vote suppression in recent elections, which are confirmed by impossible pre-election and exit poll deviations from the recorded vote.

It's for the naysayers who promote faith-based hypothetical arguments in their unrelenting attempts to debunk the accuracy of the pre-election and exit polls.

People forget Selection 2000. Gore won the popular vote by 540,000. But Bush won the election by a single vote. SCOTUS voted along party lines: Bush 5, Gore 4. That stopped the Florida recount in its tracks. Gore won Florida. Why did they do it? And why did the "liberal" media say he lost?

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FALSE RECALL, RELUCTANT RESPONDERS, HOW THEY VOTED IN 2000: IMPLAUSIBLE, CONTRADICTORY AND MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE

Naysayers have a problem with the 2004 pre-election and exit polls. Regardless of how many were taken or how large the samples, the results are never good enough for them. They prefer to cite two implausible hypotheticals: Bush non-responders (rBr) and Gore voter memory lapse ("false recall").

How do pollsters handle non-responders? They just increase the sample-size! Furthermore, statistical studies show that there is no discernible correlation between non-response rates and survey results.

How do pollsters handle "false recall"? They know that in a large sample, forgetfulness on the part of Gore and Bush voters will cancel out! There is no evidence that Gore voters forget any more than Bush voters.

On the contrary, if someone you knew robbed you in broad daylight, would you forget who it was four years later? In 2000, Gore and the voters were robbed in broad daylight.

Naysayers claim that bias favored Kerry in the pre-election and exit polls. Yet they offer no evidence to back it up. They claim that Gore voters forgot and told the exit pollsters they voted for Bush in 2000. It's their famous "false recall" hypothetical. They were forced to use it when they could not come up with a plausible explanation for the impossible weightings of Bush and Gore voter turnout in the Final National Exit poll.

According to the final 2004 NEP, which Bush won by 51-48%, 43% of the 13660 respondents voted for Bush in 2000 while only 37% voted for Gore. This contradicts the reluctant Bush responder (rBr) hypothesis. Furthermore, 43% of the 122.3 million who voted in 2004 is 52.57mm, yet Bush only got 50.45 mm votes in 2000. The 43/37% split is a mathematical impossibility.

In addition, approximately 1.75 mm Bush 2000 voters died prior to the 2004 election. Therefore, no more than 48.7 mm of Bush 2000 voters could have turned out to vote in 2004. The Bush 2000 voter share was 48.7/122.3 (or 39.8%), assuming that all of the Bush 2000 voters still living came to the polls. These mathematical facts are beyond dispute. Kerry won the final 1:25pm exit poll by 50.93-48.66%, assuming equal 39.8% weights.

For the same reason, Kerry must have done even better than his 51.4-47.6% winning margin at the 12:22am timeline (13047 respondents). Here the Bush/Gore mix was 41/39%. But we have just shown that 39.8% was the absolute maximum Bush share. If we apply equal weightings to the 12:22am results, then Kerry won by 52.25-46.77%, a 6.7 million vote margin (63.8-57.1mm).

First-time voters and those who sat out the 2000 election, as well as Nader and Gore 2000 voters, were overwhelming Kerry voters. The recorded Bush 2004 vote was 62 million. Where did he get the 13 million new voters from 2000? How do the naysayers explain it? Only by ignoring the mathematical facts and raising new implausible theories.

It’s time to put on the defoggers. We’ve had enough disinformation, obfuscation and misrepresentation. Let the sunshine in. Let's review the basics.


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A COIN-FLIP EXPERIMENT
Consider this experiment. Flip a fair coin 10 times. Calculate the percentage of heads. Write it down. Increase to 20 flips. Calculate the new total percentage. Write it down.

Keep flipping. Write down the percentage after every ten flips. Stop at 100. That's our final coin flip sample-size.

When you're all done, check the percentages. Is the sequence converging to 50%? That’s the true population mean (average).
That's the Law of Large Numbers.

The coin-flip is easily simulated in Excel. Likewise, in the polling simulations which follow, we will analyze the result of polling experiments over a range of trials (sample size).

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THE MATHEMATICAL FOUNDATION

This model demonstrates the Law of Large Numbers (LLN). LLN is the foundation and bedrock of statistical analysis. LLN is illustrated through simulations of polling samples. In a statistical context, LLN states that the mean (average) of a random sample taken from a large population is likely to be very close to the (true) mean of the population.

Start of math jargon alert...
In probability theory, several laws of large numbers say that the mean (average) of a sequence of random variables with a common distribution converges to their common mean as the size of the sequence approaches infinity.

The Central Limit Theorem (CLT) is another famous result .The sample means (averages) of an independent series of random samples (i.e. polls) taken from the same population will tend to be normally distributed (the bell curve) as the number of samples increase. This holds for ALL practical statistical distributions.
End of math jargon alert....

It's really not all that complicated. Naysayers never consider LLN or CLT. They maintain that polls are not random-samples. They would have us believe that professional pollsters are incapable of creating accurate surveys (i.e. effectively random samples) through systematic, clustered or stratified sampling, especially when Bush is running.

LLN and CLT say nothing about bias.

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POLLING SAMPLE-SIZE

Just like in the above coin-flipping example, the Law of Large Numbers takes effect as poll sample-size increases. That's why the National Exit Poll was designed to survey at least 13000 respondents.

Note the increasing sequence of polling sample size as we go from the pre-election state (600) and national (1000) polls to the state and national exit polls: Ohio (1963), Florida (2846) and the National (13047).

Here is the National Exit Poll Timeline:
Updated; respondents; vote share
3:59pm: 8349; Kerry led 51-48
7:33pm: 11027; Kerry led 51-48
12:22am:13047; Kerry led 51-48

1:25pm: 13660 ; Bush led 51-48
The final was matched to the vote.

So much for letting LLN and CLT do their magic.

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USING RANDOM NUMBERS TO SIMULATE A SEQUENCE OF POLLS

Random number simulation is the best way to illustrate LLN:
1) Assume a true 2-party vote percentage for Kerry (i.e. 51.5%).
2) Simulate a series of 8 polls of varying sample size.
3) Calculate the sample mean vote share and win probability for each poll.
4) Confirm LLN by noting that as the poll sample size increases,
the sample mean (average) converges to the population mean ("true" vote).

It's just like flipping a coin.
Assume there is a p =51.5% probability that a random poll respondent voted for Kerry (HEADS).
This represents Kerry's TRUE vote (his population mean)
Bush is TAILS with a 48.5% (1-p) probability.

A random number (RN) between zero and one is generated for each respondent.
If RN is LESS than Kerry's TRUE share, the vote goes to Kerry.
If RN is GREATER than Kerry's TRUE share, the vote goes to Bush.

For example, assume Kerry's TRUE 51.5% vote share (.515).
If RN = .51, Kerry's poll count is increased by one.
If RN = .53, Bush's poll count is increased by one.

The sum of Kerry's votes is divided by the poll sample (i.e. 13047). This is Kerry's simulated 2-party vote share. It approaches his TRUE 51.50% vote share as poll samples increase.

The LLN works in polling the same way as in the coin flip experiment.

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THE STATE ELECTORAL VOTE SIMULATION

In addition to simulating Kerry's popular 2-party vote, the model also includes a State Electoral Vote (EV) Simulator. The method is similar to the previous National polling samples, with this exception:
Each simulation consists of 100 election trials.

When the F9 key is pressed, one hundred Monte Carlo simulation election trials are executed for each of the 50 states and DC. In each trial, a random number (RN) is generated for each state.

The RN is compared to the probability of Kerry winning the state. If RN is less than the probability, the state EV is added to his total. If RN is greater, Bush wins the state.

If Kerry's total EV exceeds 269, he wins the election trial.

For example:
1) Assume that Kerry and Bush were tied in the FL exit poll.
Therefore, the probability that Kerry would win FL is 50%.
If RN is less than 0.50, Kerry wins FL 27 electoral votes.

2) Assume that Kerry won the CA exit poll by 55-45%.
The probability of winning the state was 99.9%.
If RN is less than .999, Kerry wins CA 55 electoral votes.

Kerry's total number of winning election trials (out of the 100) is his expected (mean) electoral vote win probability. In addition to Kerry's expected mean EV (average), his median (middle), maximum and minimum electoral vote is calculated for the 100 trials.

Kerry's state win probability is calculated using the Excel Normal Distribution Function. Inputs to the NDF:
1) Kerry's 2-party share of the state exit poll
2) the standard deviation Stdev = MoE/1.96
MoE is the poll Margin of Error.

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THE MARGIN OF ERROR

The MoE (at the 95% confidence level) is the interval surrounding the sample mean which has a 95% probability of containing the TRUE population mean.

For example, assume a 2% MoE for a state exit poll won by Kerry: 52-48%. The probability is 95% that Kerry's TRUE vote is in the interval from 50% to 54%. The (one tail) probability is 97.5% that Kerry's vote will exceed the interval lower limit of 50%.

This is the standard formula used to calculate the MoE:

MoE = 1.96 * sqrt (p*(1-p)/n) * (1+CF)
n is the sample size,
p and 1-p are the 2-party vote shares.

CF is the exit poll "cluster effect" factor. It's the incremental adjustment made to the MoE in order to account for the physical cluster of individuals with similar characteristics at the exit polling site.

The MoE decreases as the sample-size (n) increases while the sample poll mean approaches the true population mean. It's the Law of Large Numbers again. Makes sense, right? Remember the coin flips?

This is not obvious: For a given sample size (n), the MoE is at it's maximum value when p =.50 (the candidates are tied). The more one-sided the poll, the smaller the MoE. In the 50/50 case, the formula can be simplified to:
MoE = 1.96 * .5 / sqrt (n) =.98 / sqrt (n)

Let's calculate the MoE for the 12:22am National Exit Poll:
n = 13047 sampled respondents
p = Kerry's true 2-party vote share = .515
1-p = Bush's vote share = .485

MoE = 1.96 * sqrt (.515*.485/13047)= .0086 = 0.86%
Adjusting for an assumed 30% exit poll cluster effect,
MoE = 1.30*0.86% = 1.12%

The cluster effect is highly controversial. We can only make a rough estimate of it’s impact on MoE.The larger the cluster effect, the higher the MoE. But cluster is only a factor in exit polls. There is no MoE adjustment in pre-election or approval polls.

Why would a polling firm include the MoE if the poll was not an effective random sample?

Pollsters use proven methodologies, such as cluster sampling, stratified sampling, etc. to attain a near-perfect random sample.


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CALCULATING PROBABILITIES

Kerry win probabilities are the main focus of the simulation. They closely match the theoretical probabilities obtained from the Excel Normal Distribution function.

The probabilities are calculated using two methods:
1) running the simulation and counting the votes
2) calculating the Excel Normal Distribution function

Prob = NORMDIST (P, V, Stdev, true)
P = .515 is the mean Kerry poll vote share
V = 0.50 is the majority vote threshold.
Stdev = MoE/1.96. The standard deviation is a measure of dispersion around the mean.

Given that Kerry's led by 3% in the 2-party vote (12:22am National Exit Poll), his popular vote win probability was close to 100%. And that assumes a 30% cluster effect!

For a 2% lead (51-49), the win probability is 97.5% (still very high).
For a 1% lead (50.5-49.5), it's 81% (4 out of 5).
For a 50/50 tie, it’s 50%. Makes sense, right?

The following probabilities are calculated in the model:
1) The confidence level for Kerry's minimum vote share (MVS).
There is a 97.5% probability that Kerry's true vote exceed MVS.
The MVS increases as the polling sample size grows.

2) The probability of Bush obtaining his recorded two-party vote (51.24%).
The probability is virtually zero that Bush's recorded vote would be almost 3% higher than his 48.5% two-party share.

3) The probability of the state exit poll discrepancy from the recorded vote is a function of the magnitude of the deviation, the MoE and cluster effect. The normal distribution is used to calculate the probability.

4) The probability that the MoE is exceeded in any given state is 1 in 40. The probability that the MoE is exceeded in at least N states is calculated using the binomial distribution function. The cluster effect makes a big difference in the probability calculation. As the cluster effect is increased, so does the MoE and is therefore less likely to be exceeded.

Assuming a 30% cluster effect, the vote discrepancy exceeded the exit poll MoE for Bush in 10 states. The probability of this occurrence is 1 in 2.5 MILLION.

Assuming a 20% cluster effect, the MoE was exceeded in 13 states, a 1 in 4.5 BILLION probability.

For a cluster effect of 12% or less, the MoE was exceeded in 16 states, a 1 in 19 TRILLION probability!
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SIMULATION GRAPHICS






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DOWNLOADING THE EXCEL MODEL AND RUNNING THE SIMULATION

http://us.share.geocities.com/electionmodel/MonteCarloPollingSimulation.xls

Wait a minute for the Excel model to download.

Two inputs drive the state and national vote simulations:
1) Kerry's 2-party true vote share (51.5%)
2) exit poll cluster effect (set to 30%).

Press F9 to run the simulation.
The graphs illustrate polling simulation output based on the inputs:
1- Kerry's 2-party vote (true population mean): 51.50%
2- The Exit Poll Cluster effect (zero for pre-election):30%

Play "what-if" to see the effect of changing assumptions.
Lower Kerry's 2-party vote share from 51.5% to 50.5%.
Press F9 to run the simulation.

Note how the 1% reduction in Kerry's "true vote" results in the decline of his
1) polling popular and electoral vote shares
2) corresponding popular and electoral vote win probabilities
3) minimum vote at the 97.5% confidence level

________________________________________________________________

ELECTION MODEL SIMULATION

http://www.truthisall.net







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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:02 AM
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1. Brovo k r and bookmarked nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:04 AM
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2. K&R
:kick:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:12 AM
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4. me too
:hug: to TIA
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:11 AM
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3. K&R for TIA... (n/t)
:kick:
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:23 AM
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5. Kick
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:31 AM
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6. That's all well and good, but
unless someone does something about it, it doesn't matter. Someone needs to file a lawsuit, blare it on AAR, give it some wide publicity, or something. Posting it here on DU is a good start, but it needs to go further than that. We need to take actual steps to have the 2004 election declared null and void.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:33 AM
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7. TIA has been in poor health - this thread is a tribute to him
:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:10 PM
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14. It is a profound tribute & Radio_Guy, check this out...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0511/S00067.htm
New Mexico Lawsuit Delves Inside Machines

The lawsuit described in this article IS THE REASON RICHARDSON OF NM WENT TO ALL PAPER.

It proved to him that there would be a world of trouble if he didn't and he did the right
thing. Good for him!!!

Now, this group http://VOTERACTION.ORG is moving out across the country. The lawyers are
brilliant the leadership is too.

If you want to help, this is the place to go. Their lawsuit strategy is run by Lowell Finley
Attorney of Berkeley CA. He's the only lawyer to date who has won a big settlement against
Diebold (in behalf of Alameda County).

This is just what you were talking about.

Cheers
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:27 PM
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15. Thanks for the links. Good activism!
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:00 PM
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17. Excellent
Don't get me wrong. I really appreciate all TIA is doing. But more, like that lawsuit, needs to be done. Let's keep it up!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:33 AM
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8. K&R from this math dunce (nt)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:01 PM
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26. Another math dummy gives it a whirl! I BELIEVE YOU; I REALLY DO.
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 06:01 PM by Radio_Lady
However, you do the math... I can't.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:36 AM
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9. Facinating, BRAVO... but a variable,..some voting machines had a coin with
to heads and the immage was Dubya's.
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:37 AM
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10. Bookmarked. n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:38 AM
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11. K & R
:kick:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:40 AM
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12. It's a great post
does anyone know how he is doing?
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:50 AM
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13. I just wonder if TIA will ever be known by the general public?
To those of us at the democraticunderground TIA is well known. I just wonder if there will ever be a day when it is all found out, how this administration stole the election? I get some of the math and I know it was stolen.

TIA is amazing how many times he has calculated and recalculated and tried to show those without great math skills why it was stolen.He is amazing with his persistence. I just wish the rest of the world could see this.

Oh well I have given up on that dream of them being caught and called on that one. Perhaps I will have to settle for censure or impeachment of one of their many offenses.

TIA I hope with all of those positive thoughts being sent your way, you will recover.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:11 PM
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19. That's a good question. Many who deal with the public know TIA
This is a list of people who are hot on election fraud. Many of them are familiar with TIA's work from way back and ALSO the great work of the other DU 2004: Election Fraud and Research now Elections Forum activists. Here's a partial list:

Robert Koehler, Brad Friedman, John Conyers, Barbara Boxer, Mark Miller, Fitrakis, Wasserman, USCV, Dopp, Freeman, Baiman, Simon, Alistair Thompson, Paul Krugman, Keith Olberman, Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, Joseph Cannon, Sam Seder, Janeane Garofalo, etc.

I'm not sure about Stephanie Miller and Jeane Garofalo but, what the heck, send them the link and these two:

"Scoop": The Unanswered Question: Who Really Won in 2004?
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00238.htm

"Scoop": Kerry Won!!! Statistical Tools Everyone Can Use + an Interview with TruthIsAll
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00242.htm


Keep the faith and, more importantly, keep working. It's all we can do and it's enough!




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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:15 PM
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20. that is good that this many know of him
I hope they can keep getting the word out about election fraud.Thanks Autorank.;)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:15 PM
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23. Spread the word :)
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 03:16 PM by autorank
America has a right to know the truth behind the veil of lies that pervade our political process.

This is one part of the truth.

One of TIA's favorite politicians was Hubert H. Humphrey, the great liberal Senator from MN.

Humphrey was known as "the happy warrior." That sums up TIA!

Let freedom ring! Let the people know that there is a reckoning for driving our country down.

That reckoning is the truth, unvarnished.

Keep the faith.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:28 PM
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16. K & R - Anyone know how he's doing?
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:10 PM
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18. boot. kick. bump. punt.... reco... nom.. it's all here folks...
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:51 PM
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21. TIA is one smart cookie. Dedicated too. KICK!
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blue4barb Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:04 PM
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22. My salute to TIA is about my awakening to the truth of election
fraud. I found TIA BEFORE I found DU through a search for presidential election polls just prior to and after the November 04 election. In fact, TIA led me to DU, for which I will be eternally grateful for leading me to a community where so many believe like I do about the stolen election.

Heartfelt thanks for TIA for all his time and energy fighting to get the truth out.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:32 PM
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24. Kick. (nt)
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:10 PM
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25. Scream it from the mountaintops! Scream it from your rooftops!
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 04:10 PM by fooj
Peace to you, TIA. May the light of love continue to shine brightly on you!

:hug:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:13 PM
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27. K&R & more prayers for TIA.
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:18 PM
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29. k & r and the healing power of friendship and hope
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:17 PM
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28. Another kick.
My thoughts are with him and I do hope he is doing better. Please keep us posted on his condition.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:19 PM
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30. And another kick.
TIA, we've got your back.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:32 PM
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31. Kick for justice.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:57 PM
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32. One more kick.
:kick:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:21 PM
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33. he's biased
I personally prefer one of his other posts with the same stuff rearranged differently.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:36 PM
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34. Kick
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:39 PM
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35. Truthisall: I'm Praying for You.
Speechless as my heart breaks here. Sending prayers right now.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:51 AM
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36. Thank you
Bless
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:58 AM
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37. Leave it to a mathmeti..mathma..hell. I don't need a weatherman
to tell me which way the wind blows!

No shit! Good job! Bravo. Amazing! :yourock:
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 04:27 AM
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38. Dude, you are a crusader for the truth
Get well and keep trying to get the message out. Someday America will thank you.

All my prayers and good vibes go out to you now.
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Bushy Being Born Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:11 AM
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39. I can't find TruthIsAll in the user list
Is he still here? And as for his health, is he doing ok? That's a great post no matter how you look at it.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:13 AM
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41. He is not still here.
No more info on his health other than that he needs our prayers and support.

He has mine.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:55 AM
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40. Please put this in the Research section
Otherwise it will disappear. Thanks.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:02 AM
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42. ttt n/t
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