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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:45 PM
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Character assassination is one of the oldest weapons
I think the guy makes a point. A lot of people like to make character "assissination's" about people and it happens all over the place. I thought this post would be a good reminder on about rumors and you can't judge a book by its cover as the old saying goes.

Link: http://breathecast.com/news_article/1217.htm

Snip: < Grammy-winning gospel artist and preacher Hezekiah Walker has denied a recent report that he would be stepping down from his pastoral position due to a secret homosexual lifestyle.

The report, which was posted on musicnewsweekly.com, claimed that Walker had, “come out of the closet,” during an “extremely bitter” divorce between he and his wife, Monique Walker, and was planning to step down from his pastoral position to live together with his gay lover, who was reported as being a transvestite.

An official statement released late last month by Walker’s management said that, “It’s all lies, it’s completely false and not even remotely true.”

Walker issued a personal statement shortly after saying that, “The enemy seeks to steal, kill and destroy. Character assassination is one of the oldest weapons.”

“People weak in mind believe the worst about everyone,” he continued. >

More at the link....
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gekeeley Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:57 PM
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1. Yeah its a wicked shitty tactic...
but it seems to work pretty well for those who use it. Bush did it masterfully to Kerry in 2004... in fact Republicans are frighteningly skilled in it. I'm proud to call myself a Democrat because the majority of us have not yet stooped to such low.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:59 PM
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2. How bizarre
Calling someone 'gay' who isn't, certainly isn't character assassination, unless one thinks being gay is bad; then that is just homophobia...bare-ass naked!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:11 PM
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3. Did you not read the article?
The guy is a minister and gospel singer. The rumors would've ruined his career and the point is if you're going around and telling false things about people it can ruin a person's life. Whether you're John Kerry against George Bush or this guy. People will doubt you etc. So you obviously are missing the whole point. But why am I not surprised with you? :eyes:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:20 PM
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5. Considering this past week...
...I am not surprised by this at all from you.

It shouldn't matter what is career is, being gay is not a bad thing. It should not treated as such. To equate being gay as a 'character flaw' is homophobia.

I didn't miss the point of this example at all.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:27 PM
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6. Yes you did
It's about character assisination and how rumors and accusations can destroy a person and why you should be careful with what you say to and/or about someone. Please grow up.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:30 PM
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11. You do the same.
A point was missed, but not by me.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:32 PM
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14. LOL
Yes it was dear. They made rumors that he was going to step down from his career position. See you're still not learning from this man. I do feel sorry for you.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:35 PM
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17. Don't feel sorry for me...
...I don't require a "pity party."
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:29 PM
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8. You can learn from this guy
“The enemy seeks to steal, kill and destroy. Character assassination is one of the oldest weapons.”

So you missed the point entirely. Get some glasses please.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:29 PM
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9. Oh and there you go again putting words in people's mouths
NOWHERE did this man nor I say being gay is a bad thing. See, you need to learn from this man. But why do I know you won't?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:35 PM
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18. .
:eyes:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:29 PM
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10. Being a lying adulterer is bad
and that is what he was being called. The fact it was with a man as opposed to a woman wouldn't make him less of one.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:31 PM
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13. Exactly
And he's saying none of it is true. It's teaching us how to becareful with the words we use and the rumors we tell. To make sure that we have the facts about someone or something or an event before we go around and spread it. You never know who it could hurt.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:34 PM
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16. No. What he is being called is "gay."
"Being a lying adulter" is bad, gay or straight. The jist of this 'rumor' was about his being a homosexual.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:36 PM
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19. And about his career
You're still not getting the point. But why am I not surprised with you? The original rumor began on mediatakeout.com and is a celebrity rumor and gossip site and it spread around until it became official news.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:40 PM
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25. You just don't get it.
Homophobia is rampant. Being gay is not a bad thing. It shouldn't matter if he were gay or not. Calling someone "gay" just to slander their character is homophobic, accepting that "being gay is seen as bad" is homophobic.

Saying McCain has a Black child would not be considered "slander," except by a racist.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:42 PM
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26. You need to read this dear
“People weak in mind believe the worst about everyone,” he continued.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:42 PM
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27. actually they claimed he had fathered the child he had adopted
which was part of the slander.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:20 AM
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32. being called gay does work as character assassination for certain audience

wether you like that or not is does work in that mode when the people that this propagnada is aimed at are anti-gay and there are quite a few of them out there
and they often go to church. So like it or not, yes being called gay does serve
as a smear in this case.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:37 PM
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20. The rumor is having had an affair with a transexual
leading to a bitter divorce. That would make him an adulterer. I can easily see why a minister would rather not have people believe he was an adulterer no matter who the supposed love interest were.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:40 PM
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24. Exactly
It would make him a hypocrite and nobody would listen to him again. And it's wrong whether he was a minister or not. It's still wrong to go around and make false accusations. It started out at mediatakeout.com which is a celebrity and gossip site and it went around until it became official. The guy was silent about it until it started becoming out of control. They also made claims about another guy who died in 1991 who can't even defend himself!
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:39 PM
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22. I think you are being intellectually dishonest, for whatever reason.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:43 PM
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29. Why are you surprised Lincoln?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:13 PM
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4. That's what they did with Clinton.
They didn't literally assasinate him. Instead they character assasinated him. I guess we should be thankful.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:27 PM
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7. Thankful for what?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:30 PM
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12. that they didn't literally assassinate him
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:32 PM
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15. Oh got you
Right. But they still did character assisination and that's just as bad.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:40 PM
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23. Well not really.
Thankfuly Clinton survived the character assasinations from the "get Clinton at all cost" crowd.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:43 PM
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28. And character assisinations can ruin a person but Clinton
knew how to handle the situation. If someone can't handle character assisination it can really ruin them.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:47 PM
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30. Yeah, I can see your point.
Actually Vince Foster comes to mind. All those articles about him in the WSJ. Some say that is what drove him to suicide.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:48 PM
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31. Bingo
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 11:49 PM by FreedomAngel82
I'm glad you get it. It can really ruin a person. This whole thing with this guy is it began on a celebrity gossip site until it got out of control. They even made up a rumor about a guy who's dead and has been dead since 1991. He can't even defend himself.
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