What I heard about Dubai

[AbbyR]

I went to a chamber of commerce dinner tonight where a former Democratic senator was speaking. I sat across from the fellow who drove him, who happens to work in DC. He said that he thinks the whole Dubai fiasco is so that when Bush gives the contract to Halliburton, everyone will sigh with relief.

I think he was kidding, but who knows?

[babylonsister]

1. That theory has been bandied about on DU all afternoon; we

shall see, but it wouldn't surprise me! If so, I await the Dems' reaction.

[joeunderdog]

2. I thought the same thing. A la the Supreme Court nominee.

The only thing is, they could have gotten away with just giving it to our Pals at Hal without making a blip on the screen. That's been happening the whole war.

I think it gave the Congressional Pukes a mechanism to distance themselves from a moran in the WH.

[Just Me]

3. If that were really the case, Halliburton will subcontract to Dubai 'cause

,...the BushCO/neoconster regime PROMISED that profiteering proposition and Dubai BANKED on it (along with one of the major capital partners, the Carlyle Group --> BushCO profiteering co).

[Carni]

4. No he wasn't kidding and that IMO is the real deal

Remember when they appointed Kissinger to head the 911 commission?

I think this is the same deal.

[pinto]

5. That's a stretch, imo. I think a bunch of mid-level true believer

bureaucrats approved the deal (re: a foreign interest at US terminals on the East Coast. The P&O sale to DPW itself was always a British legal matter.) I think Bushco is so accustomed to operating without oversight that no one expected any hue and cry.

And, I think the back pedaling by Bushco and the UAE was a joint decision when they realized that, lo and behold, the President's veto bluff was going to be called....there are many bigger contracts (Defense) with UAE companies that are more important to both. The emirates could easily afford to toss this one on the heap in the name of the "greater good of UAE/US relations". And Bush could save face by avoiding a Congressional showdown.

To the point, I don't think there was a convoluted bait and switch scheme here. I think it was just straight forward arrogance.

[demgurl]

6. One thing we must not forget is that Halliburton is a part of the UAE.

Some folks who get paid from Halliburton actually have 'UAE' on their paychecks. Also, it has been firmly established that Halliburton is a part of the UAE. If it goes to Halliburton then it is the same as giving it to the UAE.

[stillcool]

7. Who knows is right....

but the thing that really bothers me about this and so much of our "public discourse" is that it is all so illogical. International Corporations are running the whole frigging world including our government...but nobody cares about that....as long as the logo is American.

[babylonsister]

8. I agree. I have been guilty of trashing

this deal because of the underhanded way it was dealt with by our gov't.
And had not said gov't instilled terror for the past 4 years, it might
be more palatable.
But I realize we have to and should cooperate with other countries. Again,
I think this admin has caused a lot of the xenophobia.

[stillcool]

10. You know how sometimes....

your brain just can't take anymore? I go off on tangents in search of logic...and I wind up in the damndest places...
http://www.bilderberg.org/roundtable/RoadShow1.html

he banking house of Rothschild maintained one of the great intelligence services of the nineteen century. The private intelligence they gathered helped the Rothschild's to successfully place their investments. According to former CIA chief Allen Dulles, "In 1815, while Europe awaited news of the Battle of Waterloo, Nathan Rothschild in London already knew that the British had been victorious. In order to make a financial killing, he then depressed the market by selling British Government securities; those who watched his every move in the market did likewise, concluding that Waterloo had been lost by the British and their allies. At the proper moment he bought back in at the low, and when the news was finally generally known, the value of government securities soared." In American the banking houses of Morgan and Rockefeller would come to maintain the great intelligence services of the 20th century. The intelligence services of the houses of Morgan and Rockefeller would include control of the intelligence services of the United States government. Many agents of the banking houses of Morgan and Rockefeller would go to work for United States intelligence agencies. During World War I, one of the most important elements of agent authentication was the fabrication of passports, identification cards and other documents. The censorship and documents branch was headed by Commander Henry S. Morgan of the United States Naval Reserve, a son of financier J. P. Morgan Jr.. Morgan's agency collected and compiled intelligence from mail, cables, and telephone conversations intercepted by the War Department under the government's wartime censorship powers.

[babylonsister]

11. Gee, thanks. Now MY brain can't take anymore.

So, instead of the theory that one who doesn't listen to history is bound to repeat it, it's now being repeated purposefully, regardless of who is in the path. :crazy:
It's amazing that, in this age of technology, the same outcomes still seem to be applying.

[stillcool]

12. It 's taken so much time and brain power...

for me to get a grip on history. The internet makes it easier in some ways, but one thing leads to another...and before I know it I'm hopelessly lost between families, continents, industries, and decades.
There's a line some where...and I'm not sure if I've crossed it.
:toast:

http://www.grace.com/html/history.html

[FreedomAngel82]

9. He is right on the money

Lots of us here at DU have been thinking that all a long. That and it's a good issue for the republicans to back away from Bush and to appear "tough" on security because of poll raitings. Remember Harriet Miers people! "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it."