Freak Republic Now Up To 20 (Twenty!) Threads On Brokeback Mountain

[ruggerson]

The frothing of bigots reaching a new boiling point

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547631/posts

To: scripter

They transform our attitudes by making us feel as though our "super uncomfortable" feelings toward embracing unnatural or corrupt behavior of whatever sort – a discomfort literally put into us by a loving God, for our protection – somehow represent ignorance or bigotry or weakness.

They are hard at work in our nations schools.

5 posted on 12/27/2005 8:57:08 AM PST by hedgetrimmer

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I can't be the only one who finds this movie repulsive and disgusting. It gives me the creeps. It makes my skin crawl.

10 posted on 12/27/2005 9:02:37 AM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)

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There are so many movies- millions?- made depicting women as sex objects, so I'm surprised it's taken this long for a movie like this to be made. You'd have to put a gun to most straight guy's heads to make them watch this, but whatever floats your boat.

But what steams me is how they equate this nonsense with Rosa Parks or some such- like it's some kind of holy thing. "First gay kiss", first gay this or that", like they're dealing with anti-slavery- or some decent cause.

11 posted on 12/27/2005 9:02:38 AM PST by emiller

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To: scripter

Ennis's wife sadly witnesses everything through the screen door. (Since this is one of the film's sadder moments, I wasn't quite sure why the audience in the Portland, Oregon, theater burst out in laughter at Alma's heartbreaking realization.)
Sounds like the behavior of a bunch of jackass liberals.


24 posted on 12/27/2005 9:17:18 AM PST by Zechariah11

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To: garyhope

Agreed! I wouldn't see it if they paid me...It's IMO a tool for the queers to propagandize the red states...they obviously think macho types like cowboys would be more appealing in those regions then florists or hairdressers....

29 posted on 12/27/2005 9:21:24 AM PST by Frank_2001

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To: scripter

The biggest lie of this movie is that homosexual men are monogamous.
In real life, the separated sheepherders would have been cruising public parks for anonymous trysts while pining away for each other.

50 posted on 12/27/2005 9:47:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)

[LeftCoast]

1. Well, E. Pluribus Unum sure knows a lot about the practices of

'real' homosexuals. :smirk:

[baby_mouse]

7. Awful, isn't it?

The THOUGHT of it...

Brrrrrrr

That's the last time *I* cruise. Oh, hang on, I don't, being happily settled with my lovely man...

[wiley]

You can leaf propigate Butterwort?

[LeftCoast]

13. Yep! PM sent w/ more details.

:hi:

[kevinbgoode]

80. Maybe we should start like 20 Freeper threads

and just manufacture as much BS as possible about them and their false sense of "morality."

[raysr]

55. Real Cowboys are Gay! LOL

[johnfunk]

78. Brokeback obsession: looks like a symptom of ambiguous heterosexuality

Methinks "E. Pluribus Sputum", "Hedgefluffer", "Scroter" and the rest of the closeted gays and bisexuals at FR haven't the courage to come to grips with their own sexuality...

[neebob]

82. I was thinkin' the same thing.

Besides, park cruisers aren't gay - just ask them.

[NancyG]

84. I have many of the same CPs you do

Have tried some Nepenthes indoors, but lost a lot of them.

[Beelzebud]

2. LOL. BUT!!! BUT!!! THEY'RE GAY COWBOYS!!!!

/head explodes.


LOL

I haven't seen the movie (I hate any type of love story), but I love it just because it is bugging these mental midgets so much! :)

[BR_Parkway]

33. Not Cowboys - they are shepherds - just like Jesus

[Beelzebud]

40. ROFL Even better. :D

[madeline_con]

69. I thought I saw sheep on a pic from the flick. n/t

[wiley]

3. Brokeback Mountain is a great movie

We went to see it and as far as we could tell there wasn't a dry eye in the house. My father was crying!

[FreedomAngel82]

8. Wow

Your father was crying? Nice. :)

[Beam Me Up]

28. Well, never let them forget that Gannon/Guckert is one of their own.

They can yack all they want in opposition to homosexuality (I'm gay FWIW) but the ridiculous fact of the matter is SOMEONE in the WH wanted the services of a hooker and put him in the WH press pool.

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Jeff_Gannon

And rudepundit should have the last word:

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2005/02/who-do-you-have-to-blow-to-get-white.html

Edit: I imeant for this to be in reply to the OP but screwed up.

[Cha]

31. Yeah, and kenny-boy

melhman ain't exactly chopped liver or is he?

[baby_mouse]

4. They just don't know very much, that's all.

Sigh. It's quite sad, really...

[rosesaylavee]

5. Not surprising

The level of homophobia is running high over there. Story hits too close to home, no doubt. I am surprised they aren't also all talking about their guns and football to shore up belief that they really really are not that 'way'.

And btw, that little "Islam factoid" after the last post is creepy. What's up with that?

[Maat]

11. I noticed that last quote.

They appear to be a highly-educated bunch.

:sarcasm:

[brentspeak]

14. Thing is, there are some intelligent posters over there

There are Freepers who post well-reasoned, thoughtful entries, and who aren't mindless Bush flag-wavers or rah-rah-Iraq or "the rich are better" crowd. They're from the rapidly-disappearing "Rockefeller Republican" mold, and they're greatly outnumbered on the freerepublic site.

And to be fair, we've got our share of doozies over here (the Castro propaganda posters, the MIHOP/LIHOP conspiracy crowd, a few "soldiers are fascists" idiots)

[rosesaylavee]

16. Yeah, I appreciate the web link to back up

that little "factoid". Sheesh. What slime.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

37. You mean that lie?

That's why I wouldn't set foot over there. I've been at open forums and was slimed and threatened on the strength of my name alone. Just shows how full of hate these people are.

[madeline_con]

70. They're idiots, who've never

been anywhere or met anyone who isn't just like them. They deserve to live in the dark.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. If they hate it why do they talk about it so much?

[Lindacooks]

74. Good question! They certainly are obsessed with gay sex,

aren't they? Just like that prick Dobson.

[brentspeak]

9. The topic of "homosexuality" seems to be on their minds quite a lot

Wonder what that means?

[Dr Fate]

21. Dicks & butts on the brain, that's what.

Not that there is anything wrong with that...

[FreedomAngel82]

25. All they care about is sex and guns

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. The thought of it is probably getting many there hot and bothered! eom

[BlueEyedSon]

12. I bet they love to watch 2 women go at it

"super uncomfortable" feelings toward embracing unnatural or corrupt behavior

yeah, right....

[w13rd0]

15. Just how does a "loving God"...

...go about creating a man that loves other men, and then create in cretins like these a "revulsion" toward men that he so created? These people know nothing, and their limited experience with matters they know nothing of makes them exceptionally dangerous. Ignorance breeds ignorance, and they've been breeding for hate and ignorance for generations.

[EST]

18. If I were god,

I'd do it so you f***ers would have some games to play, with just serious enough outcomes so you'd forget they were just games and would be really entertained.

[Touchdown]

64. Rule #1 of fundamentalism.

Whatever I think, God amazingly agrees with me. MENTAL isn't in the middle of that word by accident, you know.

[Rainscents]

17. I bet these freepers are Masturbating as they're typing!

It seems that, this issue is all it matters to them.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Gross image

Ew ew ew.

[Touchdown]

65. That would explain the typing errors.

;)

[Todd B]

19. Huh?

There are so many movies- millions?- made depicting women as sex objects, so I'm surprised it's taken this long for a movie like this to be made. You'd have to put a gun to most straight guy's heads to make them watch this, but whatever floats your boat.

Erm, the only way you'd be creeped out about this movie is if you're so unsure of your sexuality that it leads you to question whether of not you might be in to a romance with another man. I'm pretty sure most people would just see it as an interesting story with interesting characters.

I've noticed a pattern. It seems to be the most right wing of the right wingers that even have a problem with the meer thought of two men kissing - maybe it's just pent up thoughts of repressed childhood trauma? Or just projection?

And, finally, how many of them have (or have ever watched) movies featuring two girls kissing? Why is there a double standard out there where guys don't have a problem with watching two girls but would rather die then watch two guys? It's so hypocritical that it'd be funny if they weren't so bigoted.

[Dr Fate]

20. Republicans have loved their homoerotic cowboys for years.

Roy Rogers, "The Duke", Dubya, and now this.

Nothing new under the sun, as they say...

[NashVegas]

22. The Review In That Post is Hysterical

The reviewer hates himself for thinking it's a good movie.

[ruggerson]

24. The reviewer is the head of WorldNetDaily

a religious rightwing propoganda site.

[brainshrub]

23. The cowboy is (was) a potent symbol of heterosexuality.

The cowboy is, or was, a potent unchallenged symbol of male heterosexuality.

Brokeback Mountain has changed the context of the cowboy in the American psyche.

The fewer icons of pure-heterosexuality there are, the more difficult it is for homophobes to keep their own sexual identities in the closet. (i.e.: If it's okay for cowboys to be gay... why can't I be gay?)

The stereotype that gays are to poofy or limp-wristed to do "real mans" work has been shattered forever.

No wonder the Freepers are so upset.

[Warpy]

29. You just got the gold star

This movie is a direct assault on that John Wayne, stoic, silent, macho cowboy stereotype that so many straight men have bought into for so long. THAT is why it's got so many people bent out of shape. If the two star crossed lovers were anything but cowboys (say, if they were truck drivers or slaughterhouse workers or miners), this would be a small release art film. Instead, it's a full assault against one of those myths that too many men have based their lives on.

Plus, we get to say "Bushback Mountain" every time Stupid has another dumb photo op at that stage set he calls his ranch.

[xchrom]

36. from the minute it was born -- it was a homoerotic icon.

we subverted that image -- well probably from the first time someone put on chaps.

without pants.

[EFerrari]

53. The thing is, the cowboy was an icon of MALE sexuality

one that everyone seems to want to claim. That male sexuality can have many valences or practices sort of gets lost, doesn't it? The subversion is in the claiming, not exactly in the image itself maybe.

[xchrom]

87. three things -- first is -- hey there!

second is that{portrayed} male sexuality has always been on a continuum -- male sexual objectivism has the peculiar trait of being out there and being denied at the same time.

second is that american culture seems to present an awful lot of male homoerotica.

too long to start presenting a history of gay or bisexual iconic figures -- but we have a lot of them.

[Touchdown]

66. ...and invented the two step. Talk about a gay dance!

I still prefer my movies about....Gladiators.:evilgrin:

[LibDemAlways]

27. If there's a movie I don't want to see for whatever

reason, I don't go see it. Why are these people obsessing over it? Must hit a little close to home.

[William Bloode]

32. Thats what i don't get either.

I know this movie would not appeal to me so i won't go see it. I also will not complain about the story, theme, and how it's told. I just know it ain't my bag.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

30. Oh, the irony!

The article reads, "Today, the powerful cowboy image is being used to sell us another self destructive product: homosexuality."

I totally agree with that line, only take out the last word and replace with "GWB".

[NI4NI]

34. An Islamic factoid

from a Republican hemmorroid.

[KingFlorez]

35. Why do they care?

I don't make it a habit of going out of my way to discuss movies I don't like. They are fighting they're own problems and deal with it like this.

[madeline_con]

71. It scares the s#it out of them. n/t

[XanaDUer]

38. I call bullshit.

"50 posted on 12/27/2005 9:47:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)"

Rather than follow tradition after a battle to execute enemies, he pardoned them. He took as his wives the daughters of his own comrades who died in battle so that they could be supported and not end up having to be a prostitute.

More freeper fuckwads. Jesus, I wish they would learn to read.

[Golden Raisin]

39. I've said it before...

and I'll say it again. Is anyone holding a gun to these folks' heads forcing them to go and sit through 'Brokeback Mountain' (or any other movie)? Most everybody in America knows in advance what the subject matter is, so if it offends (and scares) you so deeply & violently, here's a thought --- JUST DON'T GO. And then shut the fuck up and stop lecturing & preaching at the rest of us. And, as usual, the ones fulminating, condemning & screaming the loudest haven't even seen the movie!

[Kingshakabobo]

41. They're only jealous that Jake and Heath are more manly looking

than their hero....

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

48. LOL... Yeah, their hero channeling Truman Capote.

[carolinalady]

42. Well they can't really defend their fearless leaders so I am not

surprised.

[0007]

43. Hear yea, hear yea! Some real omnipotent freeper wisdom, in fact

I would bet E. Pluribus Unum is the closet queen at freepervile that keeps everyone straight

To: scripter

The biggest lie of this movie is that homosexual men are monogamous.
In real life, the separated sheepherders would have been cruising public parks for anonymous trysts while pining away for each other.

50 posted on 12/27/2005 9:47:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)

[ruggerson]

46. The idiocy

of lumping all gay people together is born of bigotry. Like all Jews are greedy, all blacks are lazy, all gays are sex crazed.

As if a lesbian Cambodian farm worker and a gay Wall St. banker can be generalized about because they both happen to be homosexual.

The IQ over there is barely room temperature.

[MrSlayer]

44. If it doesn't interest them they should just ignore it.

It's been working fine for me thusfar. No one is forcing anyone to see it.

[Marr]

45. They've got alot of "Gannons" over there, if you know what I mean.

At least, that's my suspicion. Very often it seems, people who are most vocal about their hatreds are actually externalizing their own inner struggles.

I read Brokeback Mountain recently- it's short. I thought it was a beautiful story myself, and this heterosexual guy is planning to go see it as soon as it comes to town.

[ruggerson]

47. I think a lot of straight guys

who are secure about themselves will find it to be a pretty amazing movie. My guess is that it will confound those rightwingers who claim that only gays and women will appreciate it.

In general, totally anecdotally, I've noticed that straight guys who have gay friends and enjoy hanging with them, are often totally at ease with their own sexuality.

Straight guys who have major issues about their own attractiveness to the opposite sex are often the ones who are highly homophobic.

[unpossibles]

51. as a straight man with many gay friends

I agree. Fear and ignorance causes violence, bigotry, and hatred.

I'll even go one further: I'd bet that most homophobes do not know any/many out of the closet gay people themselves, so base all of their prejudices on stereotypes, much the way people do with race. A friend of mine's mom is always talking trash about gays, blacks, and mexicans (although she will swear she is not racist.... ) yet I doubt she actually knows any well enough to call them friends.

I think that's one of the reasons so many people tend to "become more liberal" when they go to college or just move away from home: it's not that they are brainwashed by their professors (as Rush and others claim), it's because they actually meet people from other cultures and lifestyles and (hopefully) realize that every one of them is a human being, and that there are cool people and jerks in any sub-group of people out there. It also would explain why so many larger cities tend toward being more liberal, in that there are people from all over.

I speak from experience on this: I grew up in a very small town in Kentucky - while I was not very racist or prejudiced compared to many around me, I was ignorant. When I moved to Columbus, OH and actually met and befriended many people from all over the world, I realized what an idiot I had been.

Sadly there will always be these people who will refuse to accept the lessons and opportunities that life offers them.

[Boomer]

63. Story of my life, too

I grew up in Austin, waaay back when it was a sleepy little city and before the high tech industry brought a flood of "outsiders" to the region. It was a liberal bastion compared to the rest of Texas, but it wasn't until I went away and lived in a major East Coast city that my eyes were opened to the sheer diversity of humanity.

On my first return trip to Austin I was shocked by how "white" it was and the belated realization that I had been raised in a racially segregated town. I'd always known, of course, that East Austin was where Mexicans and blacks lived. And I never had a black neighbor in "my" part of town. But for 20 years I had simply accepted that reality without a qualm.

From that point on, though, I always automatically check the racial composition of a town, of a community, of a neighborhood. I notice when it's overwhelmingly white, and it makes me edgy. So when it came time to actually buy a house in West Virginia, my partner and I deliberately looked for a mixed-race neighborhood. I'm sure my co-workers think I'm crazy for choosing to live in a rough blue-collar section of town instead of a gated community with a home owners association, but I couldn't be happier with our decision.

[rockymountaindem]

49. They're so "repulsed" by gays, and yet they can't stop talking about it.

And here we are, supposedly a bunch of liberal , and we hardly give it a second thought by comparison.

We sure aren't the ones with a "gay problem", if you know what I mean.

[Vektor]

50. They spend waaaay too much time obsessing about gay sex.

It arouses suspicion, doesn't it?

[HR_Pufnstuf]

52. I wonder how many married Repubs...

..are sneaking to this movie solo?

[WernhamHogg]

54. If someone doesn't want to

If someone doesn't want to see this or any other movie, the solution is simple: don't see it. I had no interest in Passion of the Christ, but I didn't sit around trying to convince others not to see the film, nor did I waste time ranting about the movie or the subject matter. I simply didn't see it.

[Nicole]

56. I don't want to see this movie so I won't

The freepers can skip it just like I am. I don't understand why it's so hard for them to get that.

I'm hoping it does well just to piss them off.

[Catherine Vincent]

57. I haven't seen this movie yet.

Is there a sex scene in there or is it just two men kissing that's got the freeps in an uproar? These freepers know deep down they want to see this movie and won't admit that they are just curious.

[walldude]

59. There are a couple short sex scenes, but no nudity until

they have sex with the wives. Frankly I found the movie a bit slow but that's just my taste, I'm an action/sci-fi junkie. It's also seriously depressing. I really thought the backlash would be worse. I was expecting pickets and stuff.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

58. did anyone else catch this?

"They transform our attitudes by making us feel..." In these words we see an individual who takes no responsibility for their own feelings... Is that the underlying issue with the far right wing? Do they all want to blame someone else for feelings of inadequacy or guilt?

[walldude]

61. Yes.. for all their blustering about morality

and responsibility the people on the right seem to take the least amount of responsibility for their actions. 2 perfect examples of this were the Gannon/Guckert scandal where much of the press blamed the scandal on Bloggers. Yeah. Right. The WH lets a gay prostitute in the press room and it's the bloggers fault for figuring it out. The second was John Gibson who was caught on tape claiming that all religions except his are "wrong". Then blaming Olberman for playing the clip on his show...

[Jeffersons Ghost]

62. well...

I'm just sick to death of them placing all responsibility on the Hebrew Father God, which sent Jesus as a messenger! I've read the wisdom offered in the New Testament. No where do the words of Jesus in any way condone all their irresponsible crap! It's not in the name of God and my prayer for the new year is that Wisdom, which Plato saw as synonymous with Divinity will sweep in to enlighten them. What little bit of wisdom I possess didn't come cheap and it's not in propaganda speeches. They'll have to learn it the hard way, like the rest of us.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

60. 20 threads, and did anyone actually (admit to) seeing it?

I personally think this is one of the best movies, of ANY year, I've ever seen...

[Touchdown]

67. 20 threads and not one can explain how...

The two could have rode their horses to an island to capture that giant gorilla and bring him back to Cheyenne (where the Empire State Building is). What use are they?:puke:

[madeline_con]

68. My favorite comment...

"... a discomfort literally put into us by a loving God, for our protection ..."

Thank GOD for "protecting" Freekers!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

73. yep...

When there's no one left to blame, they'll blame Divinity every time! ANYTHING is easier than taking responsibility for individual decisions.

[kevinbgoode]

81. ROTFLMAO.....a discomfort put inside them by a "loving" God

so that others could clearly see how innate their own personal evil is. . .

I can't believe any of them have the audacity to pull that remark "for our protection." Ah yes...these are the brave, the strong, the courageous warrior who will defend our nation? LMAO! They obviously shudder at the thought of protecting their peepee in the shower.

[Kat45]

72. I just saw the movie today. Interestingly, there were a lot

of elderly people, elderly couples, at the show. I was surprised because I would tend to think of the older folks as being more closed-minded about homosexuality because of the times in which they grew up. The theater was close to full, at an afternoon show, and it was playing on two screens there.

Anyhoo, although the movie was pretty slow-paced, particularly at the beginning, I really liked it. Man, I had tears coming out of my eyes; it was such a sad story. And unnecessarily sad, because things shouldn't--and don't--have to be that way.

A gay co-worker, who saw it a few days ago, told me that he was surprised at things that happened in the movie because "gay liberation" movements had already been going on in the time-period in which it was set. Then I asked him, where did they live, and he said Texas and Wyoming. I looked at him and said, that explains it. And when you read the freeper comments on the movie, you can see that these attitudes still prevail in some areas and circles.

[BamaLefty]

75. ROFL

If you don't wanna see it, don't watch it! Nobody is forcing anyone to see this movie.

I'm straight, and honestly... this movie doesn't appeal to me at all. But yet I'm not holding my doll and sobbing because there is a movie out there about gay cowboys. Damn, will these stupid frickers ever grow the hell up? It gets so old sometimes...

[Quixote1818]

76. The truth hurts

I get the impression they know the movie is right and they feel guilty for their hate of gays. For this reason this movie is a triumph because it makes people think about their prejudices and feel guilty about them.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

77. ANY true Christian...

must feel guilt, when they hate or judge anyone.

[kevinbgoode]

79. Their innate hatred of others is amazing. . .

They've never quite figured out that no one really gives a damn about their obsession with others sexual/relationship orientation. In fact, they aren't even smart enough to be embarassed about the fact that, as people who claim to be so highly "moral," they have a vivid imagination about the intimate activities of others. Worse, they believe they are entitled to that simply because they are lily-white men whose peepee points in the "proper" direction.

At least one thing is funny - they can't even figure themselves out.

[RB TexLa]

83. Geez

Unreal. It's a freaking movie. From what I hear its a love story that involves gay cowboys.

Why can't people just enjoy something if it's entertaining? I know Dennis Miller is conservative, I still think he's funny.

[Raydawg1234]

85. the freepers are probably all secretly gay themselves. They are just

scared that if they see the movie, they might get a boner.

[NMMNG]

86. They are way too obsessed with that movie

And with homosexuality in general. I wonder why that is?