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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:45 AM
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Vonnegut says: “I just want to say that Bush is the syphilis president"
(Kpete - don't know if everyone read this - wow!)

3/6/06 - Kurt Vonnegut's "Stardust Memory"
Monday, March 06 2006 @ 09:06 AM PST (View web-friendly version here)
Harvey Wasserman
Columbus Free Press (Ohio)

On a cold, cloudy night, the lines threaded all the way around the Ohio State campus. News that Kurt Vonnegut was speaking at the Ohio Union prompted these “apathetic” heartland college students to start lining up in the early afternoon. About 2,000 got in to the Ohio Union. At least that many more were turned away. It was the biggest crowd for a speaker here since Michael Moore.


“Well,” says Vonnegut, “I just want to say that George W. Bush is the syphilis president.”

The students seem to agree.

“The only difference between Bush and Hitler,” Vonnegut adds, “is that Hitler was elected.”

...............

“I’m trying to write a novel about the end of the world. But the world is really ending! It’s becoming more and more uninhabitable because of our addiction to oil.

“Bush used that line recently,” Vonnegut adds. “I should sue him for plagiarism.”

Things have gotten so bad, he says, “people are in revolt again life itself.”

....................

http://peaceandjustice.org/article.php?story=20060306090609596&mode=print
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:50 AM
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1. “The only difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler was elected.”
:rofl:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:59 PM
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35. Actually, Hitler was appointed by President Hindenburg.
In 1933, the Nazi Party did not receive a majority or even a plurality. Its share of the popular vote had declined from the previous election. But Van Papen and Hindenburg (acting at the behest of Germany's industrialists) thought they could control Hitler if they brought him into the government.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:07 PM
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37. I laughed as if it was a joke... because it pretty much is, to me.
Kinda hard to take Mr. Vonnegut seriously. That's not the only "duh" moment he's had.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:11 PM
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40. Yeah, I realized I had taken it too seriously right after I hit "Post"
button.

But the problem represented by Hitler's appointment to the Premiership and\or Bush's appointment to the Presidency is that the very legitimacy of the consitutional order starts to unravel when the will of the people does not get expressed.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:22 PM
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47. He was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg in 1/33
A month later, just before the elections, the Reichstag burned.
A month after that the Enabling Act was passed, that vested legislative
authority in the Cabinet.

When Hindenburg died in 8/34, Hitler's cabinet declared the office of the
presidency dormant and transferred all powers to the Fuehrer. Hitler also
became supreme commander of the military, members of which swore their
military oath to Hitler personally. In a mid-August plebiscite these acts
found the approval of 90% of the electorate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:50 AM
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2. I love Vonnegut.
I've read most of his stuff. But I wonder if even he can do this shit justice.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:50 AM
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3. Love Kurt!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:54 AM
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4. "Before Bush got here there was pleasure
but now he's just a pain in the dong" (to steal shamelessly from Monty Python)
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:37 PM
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54. His Majesty is like a dose of clap
How true
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:58 AM
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5. I (heart) K V 2
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 10:58 AM by BlueEyedSon
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:58 AM
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6. I love Vonnegut, but this ain't helping.
Lines like "The only difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler was elected," diminish the seriousness of what Bush has really done. It comes off as generic hatemongering and makes people tune us out.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:02 AM
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7. SOS!
Maybe you can do better!
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:12 AM
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12. I try.
But heck, I'm no Vonnegut. That's why this disappoints me so much, really. The Vonnegut I grew up with was the most incisive, creative, subtle, powerful, humanist writer on the planet. How can the guy who gave us wampeters, foma, and granfalloons be the same guy who belches up the kind of bumper sticker sound bites right wing radio lives for? I just want something more.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:14 AM
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14. Yeah I'll bet!
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fliesincircles Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:33 PM
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28. A Good Bokononist wouldn't mind n/t
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:04 AM
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9. You know what?
His job's not to "help," whatever that means.

His job is to point out the obvious that so many drones (ahem) seem to overlook, and that's all he's doing.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:09 PM
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39. IMO he does more harm than good:
KURT VONNEGUT: It's the winners. And then everybody else is the losers. And, the winners divided into two parties. The Republicans and the Democrats.


I know what he means, but this just reinforces the view that many have that there's no point in voting or doing anything but backing nader or even (goddess forbid) armed revolt, because 'both sides are bad'.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:29 PM
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42. Do you really think Vonnegut is that influential?
If he is, then, yeah, well, his words are dangerous.

But, if that's the case, then we're getting into the area of censoring someone - anyone - because his opinion (and that's all it is) is different from ours.

I'd rather have Vonnegut speak what he knows to be his truth than to venture even one scintilla closer to censorship. Disagreement is fine, but when someone claims that a speaker "is doing more harm than good," I'm recalling, most recently, those damnable words of Ari "I Am Fuckface's Bitch" Fleischer, that "people watch what they say."

Parenthetically, what Vonnegut said about the "winners" happens to be right. They are the winners - at least for now. I think his statement is a grand opening to what could be a remarkable discussion and an introduction to How Do We Change This Reality?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:48 PM
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43. Oh yes, I know he's right...
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 03:49 PM by redqueen
And yes, he's influential among educated people. That's what's sad... I'm finding myself arguing with younger adults who agree with us policy wise on nearly everything... but due to this, and other similar types of comments... these people REFUSE to get invested. I suspect they're just using these things as excuses to stay lazy, but that IMO is bad enough... I don't wish to censor Mr. Vonnegut... I just wish he chose his words more carefully sometimes.

I'm so tired of fighting with fellow progressives. :(

oh and re: the discussion of how to change it... the people I've had the most trouble believe that the only way to fix it is to form a third party, or resort to armed revolt. :eyes:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:22 PM
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48. See? It's working ......
We're talking. That's wonderful.

The reluctance to get involved among younger folks is part of the terrible problem we face, and I'm convinced that so much of it is that we don't have a draft. In the sixties - where I come from - the draft was a great impetus to work out politically in ways that have defined a lot of lives since then.

Now, the problem is that youngsters are safe and comfortable and have other priorities. I understand that, but I'm glad I'm not going to be around to see what happens when they realize, forty years on, that their ennui and sloth will have left them in a country I'm not sure I'd recognize as my America. I mean, I watch them online, all those worthless online petitions, for instance, giving them the false comfort that they're somehow "involved," somehow "accomplishing something," somehow "contributing."

They're not.

Did you think you and I were fighting? Naw, not even close.

Personally, I'm an anarchist who believes that the only way to fix anything is to get all the way inside it and then subvert it for my own selfish ends. That's why I became a lawyer.

I have a feeling that a third party would end up being more of the same. We are creatures of habit, and when power is up for grabs, we're animals.

What we need - this is my opinion only - is a strong leader to stand up and take over. Honestly, there's no hope now for any kind of leader to come from any of the Democrats currently in office. They're already too co-opted, what with fundraising and being in thrall to their contributors. We need the Great Outsider, one who can articulate his platform, rally people to his cause, and never, never, never stop beating up on what these fucking Bushwhackers have done to our beloved America.

See what Kurt Vonnegut started? ;)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:25 PM
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49. hhahaha... no... I didn't think we were fighting..
and yes, it's great that we're having this discussion!

I just can't help but get so down when fellow progressives throw up their hands and declare it's hopeless. GRRRRR! On the bright side, it's also very motivating. More work for me.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:37 PM
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50. Naw, it's not hopeless,
and the ones who claim that are just flat out wrong.

It's hard, I'll grant you that, with the way these fuckers are controlling everything. The secret is the Congress, I think, and that's why we've got to stomp for our local candidates now - the Democrats who will become our Congressmen and Senators in the November elections. I just threw my hat in the ring for Jimmy Webb here in VA. I've known him forever, and he's as tough - and as pissed - as only a Marine can be. He'll be getting my $$$ to oust that mofo Lester Maddox wannabe, George Allen, who is currently an even bigger embarrassment than John Warner, who really should have stayed married to Liz Taylor. She might have kicked some sense into him.

Don't get down, Queenie. We just started scooping out the tunnel that will take us to the light. We may be doing it with teaspoons, but we'll get there..................
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:43 PM
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56. I know this is late, but I went to law school hoping to avoid the
draft, your reason is better. Besides, Law School didn't keep me out of the draft, my sex addiction did. (She's a wonderful child, a great woman and terrific mother.) Junkdrawer has this reference all figured out in another thread, I will post the link.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:48 PM
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57. Here's that thread.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:17 AM
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16. But it's true. We need many more in authority to tell the truth about bush
The time for polite politics has long since past.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:23 AM
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18. They've already tuned us out and shame is the only weapon we have left.
I ask you to quit looking for fence sitters they dont exist. People will awaken in their own way and own time and nothing you or Mr. Vonnegut or me will speed up or impair that process. Besides what he said is the truth, Bushcos plan is to get rid of or enslave the peasantry. He is already responsible for the deaths of over 200,000 Iraqis and countless maimed.. you know all this though. The reason the "other" side doesn't is not because of Hitler references no matter what Jon Stewart and Jerry Springer say (I happen to like both but they are wrong on this IMO).

Sorry but I wanted to respond to your fear here, and in my world there is no reason to fear a diminishing of bushcos crimes.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:31 AM
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20. I don't see this as 'generic hatemongering'
I see it as closer to the truth than what most people say.

When you say that this makes people "tune us out", I think you are terribly mistaken about who 'us' is. Vonnegut doesn't work for you.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:54 AM
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22. Well, at least Scott McClellan can put the third stage syphilis rumor
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 11:57 AM by EVDebs
to bed...or can he ? I mean, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

Even Wm F Buckley jr says It Didn't Work re Bush's Iraq failure. And that's a conservative talking
http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp

How many more failures are up the neocons sleves ? And are we going to allow them to stay in power long enough to find out ? That's the question mon freres.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:22 PM
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26. GMAFB. Like it was all going so great before Kurt spoiled it or
something.
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:36 PM
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29. Ok, duly noted. However:

As others have said, it isn't his job to make sure the conservatives or average joe's not paying attention aren't offended. Frankly, if they are they can "go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut" followed by a flying fuck at the moon. The only people who would think Vonnegut is even capable of generic hate mongering are idiots, which is their problem, not his or ours.

I don't mean to jump on you, but really--the man can say whatever he wants and he shouldn't have to worry about possibly offending the 34% of total morans who still think Bush is the Second Coming of Jesus. If that's what he thinks, that's what he thinks. You don't have to agree with it, of course, but I think caring about what people might think of one of his statements in light of everything else the man has said and written is a waste of your time.

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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:07 PM
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31. Bush and Hitler
Kurt's remark should probably be taken in the context of a public statement he's signed that provides more background to the charge.

http://www.worldcantwait.net/

Your government, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

Your government is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

Your government puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

Your government is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

Your government suppresses the science that doesn't fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.

Your government is moving to deny women here, and all over the world, the right to birth control and abortion.

Your government enforces a culture of greed, bigotry, intolerance and ignorance.

People look at all this and think of Hitler — and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come. We must act now; the future is in the balance....

(snip)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:34 PM
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33. It wasn't the "Hitler" reference that matters,
though many will remember it.
It IS important that he attacked the legitimacy of the Bush*/Republican administration by again restating the stolen election.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:06 PM
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36. He's also big on saying that Dems are just as bad. n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:58 PM
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44. Errraaaa...
They ARE! :rofl:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:00 PM
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52. Then why are you here? This isn't a green party board...
I'm not trying to get confrontational... just hoping that you see the effect that kind of message has on younger voters. We're always complaining that younger people don't care, but when they read that there's 'no difference'... why should they?

Unless people start choosing their words more carefully... we can bank on more of the same... because too many get the impression that if they're both the same, then why bother? It's not worth the energy, just let them do as they will anyway and enjoy what you can while you can... that's the standard mindset out there these days, it seems.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:46 PM
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53. Let me just say this...
YOU the American People, have been sold out to the highest bidder by BOTH "PARTIES." If you haven't gotten it by now, it's unlikely you ever will. The BEST CASE SCENARIO is that you rein in your DEMOCRATIC representatives and DEMAND that they actually REPRESENT your views.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:13 PM
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41. only the DLC marketeers think like that...
i wouldn't worry about it, KV is an american treasure.

peace
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:03 AM
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8. Kurt's slowing down, but that's all right..............
Almost every line he spoke (at least those quoted in this article) are straight out of his latest book, "A Man Without A Country" - a work of non-fiction that should be read by everyone, preferably once a day.

I met him when I was a child. His best friend in WWII - Bernie O'Hare - was a neighbor of ours. Mr. Vonnegut used to come and visit Mr. O'Hare and his wife. When I was a teenager, and editor of the school paper, he asked me if I wanted to be a writer. I laughed. So did he.

Then he became Kurt Vonnegut, and when my first novel was published, thirty years later, I sent him a copy. His letter to me - he remembered me! - could not have been kinder, more encouraging, more positive. He's a terrifically romantic man with a huge sense of loyalty and a sadness that overwhelms all his charm. He's had a hard, hard life.

I adore him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:09 AM
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11. Me, too. And if he comes to a complete stop, the rest of us
will still have to gallop to keep up.

He was one of the first grown ups that ever made sense to me. Still is.

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:52 AM
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21. More and more
I can't read his words without getting teary. I'm not sure why, but I suspect it has something to do with my heart knowing that someone is telling the truth.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:13 AM
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13. And he knows his share, about how Hitler really was.
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 11:43 AM by Hubert Flottz
He fought the bastard! He survived the fire bombing of the German city of Dresden. He was one of the lucky few.

Edit...Kurt talks about the war against the Nazis...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1426772
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:55 AM
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23. He survived more than that
His mother committed suicide when he was a young adult. That changes everything for a human being. Everything. Forever.

He survived Dresden, and Mr. O'Hare, my neighbor when I was a kid, was a POW hiding out with Mr. Vonnegut during the bombing, and that's where their friendship was forged - almost literally.

What was shocking for me was that Mr. O'Hare - and the other WWII vets in our little town - never talked about what they'd done, what had happened. I never realized, until I was an adult, that he - Mr. O'Hare - was the man Mr. Vonnegut was writing about in "Slaughterhouse Five."

Amazing men.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:06 PM
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24. "Amazing men"
Indeed they are!
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:31 PM
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27. You're good people old leftie
I wish there were more people like you in this world, What's the book I'd love to read it.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:20 AM
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17. that's one of the coolest anecdotes ever nt
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:07 AM
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10. Thank goodness....
....KV's one of US! :woohoo:
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HippieCowgirl Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:17 AM
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15. Busy busy busy
Someday, someday, this crazy world will have to end,
And our God will take things back that He to us did lend.
And if, on that sad day, you want to scold our God,
Why just go ahead and scold Him. He'll just smile and nod.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 11:26 AM
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19. “people are in revolt again life itself.” The "neoconocracy."
I knew there was a good answer that covered a great deal of the motivation of our illustrious neoconocracy. They hate life. They just can't stand it and they're doing whatever they can to end it. They're like the old nihilists except they're right wing (seemingly) instead of left.

Thanks Kurt, you always come through in an Apocalypse.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:13 PM
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25. hahaha, this guy is so great words do not do him justice nt
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:39 PM
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30. Great article. Love this line:
Thankfully, Kurt Vonnegut is still possessed by the genius of seeing and describing the world as only Kurt Vonnegut can.

If that isn't nice, I don't know what is.

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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:09 PM
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32. Love love LOVE Vonnegut. Thanks for posting this. nt
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:56 PM
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34. Kurt Vonnegut makes me hope there is a heaven.
I plan to have many long talks with Kurt when I get there. He's an amazing person and I love him.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 03:07 PM
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38. Gold Medalist - Vonnegut!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:01 PM
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45. I just love that old fart. I recently re-read Breakfast of Champions
I was raised in Indianapolis, and I've watched him describe that town in his books through the years. He's the best.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:02 PM
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46. I believe Hitler also liked science and used it
where as Bush wants to destroy it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:40 PM
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51. Ahhh, Kurt.
Nicely put. :thumbsup:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 10:51 AM
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55. An email I received recently
How Will History Treat George Bush?
by Richard W. Behan

The defining feature of George W. Bush's presidency will be his Global
War on Terror.
President Bush has carefully, deliberately, and effectively enshrined
The Global War on Terror in the American psyche. It is the centerpiece of
his presidency, and he never tires of describing himself as a "war
president." He claims no prouder achievement.

How will the history books, then, describe George Bush and his war?
Might they speak as follows? :

"It started when the government, in the midst of an economic crisis,
received reports of an imminent terrorist attack. A foreign ideologue
had launched feeble attacks on a few famous buildings, but the media largely
ignored his relatively small efforts. The intelligence services knew,
however, that the odds were he would eventually succeed. But the
warnings of investigators were ignored at the highest levels, in part
because the government was distracted; the man who claimed to be the nation's leader
had not been elected by a majority vote and the majority of citizens
claimed he had no right to the powers he coveted.

He was a simpleton, some said, a cartoon character of a man who saw
things in black-and-white terms and didn't have the intellect to understand
the subtleties of running a nation in a complex and internationalist world.

His coarse use of language - reflecting his political roots in a
southernmost state - and his simplistic and often-inflammatory
nationalistic rhetoric offended foreign leaders, and the well-educated
elite in the government and media. And, as a young man, he'd joined a
secret society with an occult-sounding name and bizarre initiation
rituals that involved skulls and human bones.

Nonetheless, he knew the terrorist was going to strike (although he
didn't know where or when), and he had already considered his response. When
an aide brought him word that the nation's most prestigious buildings were
ablaze, he verified it was the terrorist who had struck and then rushed
to the scene and called a press conference.

"You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in history," he
proclaimed, standing in front of the ruins, surrounded by national
media. "This," he said, his voice trembling with emotion, "is the
beginning."
He used the occasion - "a sign from God," he called it - to declare an
all-out war on terrorism and its ideological sponsors, a people, he said,
who traced their origins to the Middle East and found motivation for their
evil deeds in their religion.

Within four weeks of the terrorist attack, the nation's now-popular
leader had pushed through legislation - in the name of combating terrorism
and fighting the philosophy he said spawned it - that suspended
constitutional guarantees of free speech, privacy, and habeas corpus. Police
could now intercept mail and wiretap phones; suspected terrorists could be
imprisoned without specific charges and without access to their lawyers;
police could sneak into people's homes without warrants if the cases involved
terrorism. To get his patriotic legislation passed over the objections of
concerned legislators and civil libertarians, he agreed to put a 4-year sunset
provision on it.

Immediately after passage of the anti-terrorism act, his federal police
agencies stepped up their program of arresting suspicious persons and
holding them without access to lawyers or courts. In the first year
only a few hundred were interred, and those who objected were largely
ignored by the mainstream press, which was afraid to offend and thus lose access
to a leader with such high popularity ratings. Citizens who protested the
leader in public - and there were many - quickly found themselves
confronting the newly empowered police's batons, gas, and jail cells, or fenced off in
protest zones safely out of earshot of the leader's public speeches. (In
the meantime, he was taking almost daily lessons in public speaking,
learning to control his tonality, gestures, and facial expressions.)

Within the first months after that terrorist attack, at the suggestion
of a political advisor, he argued that any international body that didn't
act first and foremost in the best interest of his own nation was neither
relevant nor useful.

He orchestrated a campaign to ensure the people that he was a deeply
religious man and that his motivations were rooted in Christianity.

Within a year of the terrorist attack, he determined that the various
local police and federal agencies around the nation were lacking the clear
communication and overall coordinated administration necessary to deal
with the terrorist threat facing the nation. He proposed a single new
national agency to protect the security of the homeland, consolidating the
actions of dozens of previously independent police, border, and
investigative agencies under a single leader.

He appointed one of his most trusted associates to be leader of this new
agency, and gave it a role in the government equal to the other major
departments.

To consolidate his power, he concluded that government alone wasn't
enough.

He reached out to industry and forged an alliance, bringing former
executives of the nation's largest corporations into high government
positions. A flood of government money poured into corporate coffers to
prepare for war. He encouraged large corporations friendly to him to
acquire media outlets and other industrial concerns across the nation.
He built powerful alliances with industry; one corporate ally got the
lucrative contract worth millions to build the first large-scale
detention center. Soon more contracts would follow. Industry flourished.

He also reached out to the churches, declaring that the nation had clear
Christian roots, that any nation that didn't openly support religion was
morally bankrupt, and that his administration would openly and proudly
provide both moral and financial support to initiatives based on faith
to provide social services.

But after an interval of peace following the terrorist attack, voices of
dissent again arose within and without the government. Students started
an active program opposing him, and leaders of nearby nations were speaking
out against his bellicose rhetoric. He needed a diversion, something to
direct people away from the corporate cronyism being exposed in his own
government, questions of his possibly illegitimate rise to power, his
corruption of religious leaders, and the oft-voiced concerns of civil
libertarians about the people being held in detention without due
process or access to attorneys or family.

With his number two man - a master at manipulating the media - he began
a campaign to convince the people of the nation that a small, limited war
was necessary. Another nation was harboring many of the suspicious people,
and even though its connection with the terrorist who had demolished the
nation's most conspicuous buildings was tenuous at best, it held
resources their nation badly needed if they were to maintain their
prosperity.

He called a press conference and publicly delivered an ultimatum to the
leader of the other nation, provoking an international uproar. He
claimed the right to strike preemptively in self-defense, and nations across
Europe- at first - denounced him for it.

It took a few months, and intense international debate and lobbying with
European nations, but, after he personally met with the leader of the
United Kingdom, finally a deal was struck."
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And then George Bush invaded Iraq?
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No, George Bush is not the central character here.


The paragraphs above were written by Thom Hartmann, describing the
ascendancy of Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany in the 1930's. With his
permission, they are reproduced here verbatim, except for some very
light editing (a few words were omitted to obscure the explicit German
context; nothing was added). The excerpt was taken from Chapter 4, "When
Democracy Failed," in Mr. Hartmann's book, What Would Jefferson Do? A Return
to Democracy.

The book is compelling reading, for it raises a compelling question:
where is our nation headed?


A word from Richard Behan

Appearing to be the "author" of this article requires no small degree of
impudence. Here, at the end, I am happy to repudiate any such claim, but
doing so served a purpose. Chapter 4 in Hartmann's book was simply gripping. Hitler's ascendance and the concurrent destruction of German democracy were deliberately, openly
posed as parallels to contemporary affairs in the U.S., a template
perhaps. But it was not a prediction, not a trite, fear-mongering argument
that "history repeats itself." Throughout the book, Hartmann's essential
theme is the erosion of American democracy, not that we are following in
lockstep the history of Nazi Germany.

Nevertheless, the uncanny, detailed similarities between the
personalities and behavior of Adolph Hitler and George W. Bush were
hair-raising. I wondered if the shock value of Hartmann's comparison could be distilled,
extracted, by isolating it from the complexities of his larger canvas,
and so I "composed" the piece here.

My doing so is unadorned hype. I want to draw yet more attention, as
quickly and starkly as possible, to the hideous presidency of George W.
Bush. Hitler succeeded because the German people were complacent, and
if a bit of literary shock and awe can help fight complacency here, I find
it gratifying to contribute.

Appearing as the "author" was part of the hype.

Richard W. Behan's last book was Plundered Promise: Capitalism,
Politics, and the Fate of the Federal Lands (Island Press, 2001). Behan is
currently working on a more broadly rendered critique, 'To Provide Against
Invasions: Corporate Dominion and America's Derelict Democracy.' He can be reached by email at rwbehan@rockisland.com.


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