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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:39 AM
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Poll question: If the USA were ever occupied by another countries military would you...


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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:40 AM
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1. It would depend on the conditions.
Although I understand this is intended to argue that we shouldn't be mad at the Iraqi insurgents.

Bryant
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:43 AM
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2. What conditions would be acceptable to you personally?
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:45 AM
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4. The UN coming to save us?
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 09:47 AM by Dufaeth
(please) :evilgrin:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:48 AM
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5. China belongs to the UN
Would you like to have Chinese soldiers with machine guns standing on you street corner smoking and joking with the neighborhood ladies?

Don
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:02 AM
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8. If we come to the end of the road at a fascist theocracy
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 10:45 AM by Dufaeth
and my fellow citizen's don't rise up with me, then I'll take whatever help I can get(via the UN) as in your example. But it would have to certainly get more exreme than it is now. All that said, I don't disagree with what I assume to be your point. People that stand up against invaders are not inherently villains.

If you had asked this question ten years ago my answer would be enthusiatic defiance against any invaders. Ten years ago, I literally thought what is happening in America now was impossible.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:58 AM
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7. It's hard to imagine such conditions
Possibly if it were a UN action?

How about another poll. If a foreign army invaded the united states would you

1. Fight them

2. Blow up your fellow citizens

3. Take the opportunity to settle old scores (by blowing up Republicans, say).

4. Do nothing.


Bryant
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Moody Bluz Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:14 AM
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9. I would never take up arms against my country...
to fight alongside an invading army. No matter how noble their intentions. If things got so bad here that driving out the current government was the only option, I would take up arms with other partisans in revolution. But I would fight invaders, be they the Chinese, Danes, UN, even if it meant I would fight alongside Chimpy's Revolutionary Guard.

Maybe, if once a revolution was going and some other army came to our aid at our invitation, it would be different. The French helped us in our own Revolutionary War. But I would fight an invading army that arrived on our shores on it's own.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:44 AM
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3. You put on your party smile and subvert them while they're not looking.
I know how to make a Molotov cocktail.

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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 09:54 AM
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6. Depends. Now if Cheney were to hire foreign mercenaries
to take over America, then bill the American public through Halliburton...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:15 AM
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10. If they were coming to free Black folk I can't say I'd resist.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:27 AM
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11. Everyone likes to think they'd fight
Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 10:42 AM by genie_weenie
but most would sulk and allow this massive military invasion to control them. Now, more likely is the selling off of America by the Repukes...


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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:30 AM
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12. If I knew I had to hand it back to people like Bush, I wouldn't fight.
People who torture people, are WRONG! PERIOD!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:23 AM
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16. I agree Bush is pretty bad
But looking at this realistically I can still think of many other despotic regimes throughout the world that would be even worse than Bush. Much worse. I don't think I need to list them.

And as fucked up as things are here we do have the ability to change all that around if we play our cards right during the next two elections. And I think we have a pretty good chance of doing just that.

I personally wouldn't want to live anywhere else but the USA. I am ashamed at some of the stuff our government has done lately but I think we can turn that around. Call me an optimist.

And this is coming from someone who is pretty rough on America for some of the stuff done in our names. Thats because I believe the truth will set us free.

Don
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:35 AM
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13. That depends.
Is the situation more analagous to France in 1940 or Germany in 1945? And if the latter, is the occupying force more like the Western Allies or the Soviets?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:38 AM
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14. Depends
I wouldn't fight an occupation just to put people like Bush and his RW buddies back in power.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:38 AM
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15. I just can't see that happening
Even the UN couldn't take us on at this point.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 11:34 AM
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17. Well, "you're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem."
"Democracy isn't a spectator sport." Democracy also cannot be imposed (or even achieved) from outside. This is the fundamental fallacy of the occupation of Iraq. People, in common, either take 100% control of their governance or they do not have a democracy. There is no middle ground.

If some foreign military power were to invade and occupy my nation, that force would remain in control of my governance until somebody else, internal or external, took over from that force. I'd rather it'd be The People who took over - for that is the sole path to democracy.

I would, therefore, join with whatever democratic resistance existed. Merely opposing such an occupying force is insufficient - when the opposition isn't a democratic opposition. History is littered with examples of exactly what I'm talking about.
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