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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:25 PM
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The intent is to NUKE IRAN!!!
Bush doesn't have the military for a ground war, but they are speaking louder and louder on Iran. Why? - to get us prepared for what they "must do"... to go to war with Iran.... They plan on using "tactical nuclear" weapons, and are currently brain-washing us to accept its use!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:27 PM
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1. It's all sabre rattling with wooden sabers
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:28 PM by Walt Starr
They will NEVER nuke IRAN.

NEVER!

It's all bluster to try and get them to back down. They pulled the same shit with North Korea and it didn't work then, either. They fucked up and got us into a quagmire, so the whole world knows all they're doing si spouting shit.

They know damned well and good, any attack on Iran will result in real consequences for all of our military forces currently in the ME theater. Aircraft Carriers will be hit. There's a real Iranian Air Force. There is the potential for over a millon screaming Iranians to pour over the Iraqi border, not to mention a Shia uprising in Iraq!

It'll never happen.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:36 PM
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11. never say never when speaking about the depths to which
the * cabal will sink to accomplish their plan of destroying our once great Republic.

Just my two cents. ;-)
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:54 PM
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24. I'm with you
it will be a nuclear war, with china, russia and no telling who else becoming involved.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:36 PM
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12. Just because it's not a logical thing to do...
doesn't mean these idiots won't do it. Never overestimate the reasoning ability of our demented misadministration.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:37 PM
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13. Agree (I Hope). They Are Doing The Kabuki Dance Expected Of Them n/t
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:40 PM
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14. I wish I had your faith in their rationality. nt
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:40 PM
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15. Thats exactly what they want!
WORLD WAR III.

They adore war, love it... find it honorable!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:41 PM
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18. Walt? Is that you?
Of course they will nuke Iran! That's what they have wanted to do for YEARS. We don't have the troop power to attack them. Nukes are the only way and why do you think they give a rats ass about our troops? They did send them over to Iraq without the proper armour. Bush and Cheney are just chomping at the bit to use their nuclear weapons. Iran is their PERFECT excuse.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:42 PM
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19. * doesn't care about our military!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:43 PM
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20. If they did, they would anger Pakistan, who already has nukes.
Pakistan, not having the range to directly attack the US with nuclear weapons may very likely use the opportunity to attack India considering the newfound "alliance" Shrubco has formed there (considering their recent nuclear deals with Bush, Pakistan attacking India is not at all unlikely).

Where it would go from there is anybody's guess.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:44 PM
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30. I thought they were just saber rattling with Iraq
then it was too late.
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:28 PM
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2. just great
I know that psychopath wants to use one.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:28 PM
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3. Think of the irony: to prevent nukes, use them. This is FUBAR, big time.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:28 PM
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4. I don't see that happening.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:30 PM by amber dog democrat
Not that I would not put it past the Chimp to want to do this, but an un provoked attack of this kind would be the undoing of any decent standing the US hopes to ever have in the world community.
Someone would over rule this. Other than the " left behind " fundies, I can't see very many who would seriously entertain such an idea. You want a REAL war on terror ?

Yet, I could be wrong.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:29 PM
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5. That would be the end of history.
It would also cause a civil war in this country. I know they're stupid and dangerous, but I have a hard time believing they think they could get away with a nuke attack on Iran. They'd need somehting like a 9/11 with a dirty bomb directly traceable to Iran.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:54 PM
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23. Paging Francis Fukuyama! LOL I got your "end of history" right here!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:30 PM
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6. Bush is going to war with Iran
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 01:30 PM by Turbineguy
Why? Because he wants to and he's the President.

So, do we move troops from Iraq and suffer an additional 10,000 dead or do we nuke?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:32 PM
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7. Gotta' try out those new "bunker busters" to justify awarding more,...
,...taxpayer-funded contracts to the military-industrial complex. There's lotsa money to made. Gotta' expand that war into a world conflict and keep the defense contractors stoves full. ;(
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:36 PM
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10. they are itching to try their mini-nukes-uncle has a hardon for war
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:56 PM
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32. Exactly. Gotta "penetrate" and "bust" those bunkers with those
"robust" weapons.
Soooooooo psychologically transparent.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:34 PM
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8. There is absolutely NO justification for it.
Even if they "prove" that Iran has nukes, that's no reason to nuke them first ... and the entire world knows it. Sure, an attack on America would probably change things, but unless it's a nuclear attack - which I don't even want to think about - how can BushCo justify using nukes?

If we nuke Iran, we're toast. It'll be WWIII and we'll be playing the role of "Germany". BushCo is overplaying their hand. The rest of the world doesn't need us anymore. We're not the invincible superpower that we once were. If we use nukes, it's "game over" and we lose. :scared:

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:34 PM
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9. After connecting the dots, I believe the plan is as follows:
Israel bombs all those nuclear plant sites. US planes will go with them to protect them. That way we aren't the ones that are attacking Iran. Also Tehran. This will kill all those nutty Muslims and the sane Muslims (or bought Muslims) will take over and sell all that oil to the US.

However, if the nutty ones stay in power and attack our troops in Iran or attack Israel in defense, * promises to use nuclear bombs.

However, Russia recently sold Iran an air defense system. China and Russia have lots of contracts with Iran for oil. So does the rest of the world. Attacking Iran any way they can will result in 1-extremely high oil prices and/or 2-an attack on the US by Russia and/or China and/or Iranian paramilitary people. This is a no-win disaster for everyone except the loonies in the White House.

Another possibility is - everyone dumps the dollar. China has $250-350 billion. Cheap war for them. Our money becomes useless. We cannot import anything. No oil coming in. No clothes, cars, tv's, etc. The US economy collapses. I think in any scenario the US economy collapses. But * can blame the collapse on everyone but him and the rest of repubs.

No need for authroization from congress. No need for money. Just move the troops to Iran.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:41 PM
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16. IF Bush used a nuc, NO Country would back him
Not even Poodle Dog Blair. The problem is I do not think he cares.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:56 PM
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25. what if he denied it and no one could prove it?
these new "Tactical field" weapons they have are not much more dangerous than a daisy cutter, supposedly. And there's so much DU in the atmosphere near US operations that a little more won't hurt, right?

these guys are so incompetent, the worst couls happen too easily, and no one would ever be able to hold them to account. Just like now.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:09 PM
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26. The Russian's have the same type Sats we have
and can det nuc. explosions.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:41 PM
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17. I doubt if Cheney would consider a NUCULAR assault.


(And I said Cheney because he's the real decision maker)

If they lobbed a few nukes over ther then they wouldn't be able to get near the Iranian oil fields, the richest in the whole world. Cheney and his pals are salivating at the very thought of all those petro-dollars.


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timbnyc44 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:43 PM
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21. Clinton's tough talk has the WH playing catch-up in war-mongering

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/international/middleeast/19cnd-iran.html?ex=1141880400&en=c8bf5e9c13094235&ei=5070


Hillary Clinton Says White House Has Mishandled Iran


By JOHN O'NEIL
Published: January 19, 2006
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton last night criticized the Bush administration for its response to Iran's nuclear program, saying it had chosen to "downplay" the crisis over the past several years.

In a speech at Princeton University, Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, joined the Bush administration's call for sanctions against Iran, and also said that the threat of military action against nuclear sites should not be ruled out.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:41 PM
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28. Hi timbnyc44!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:51 PM
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22. Without A 1 Million Man Expansion Of US Ground Forces (Draft)
ANY attack on Iran, including 'limited' air strikes, would be incompetence rising to the level of treason.

Why? Well, look what is going on now. Almost all of our ground forces are tied down policing 7 M +/- Sunnis in Iraq. What happens if, following 'limited' air strikes, we now find ourselves policing the 15 M Shia in Iraq concurrent with a general uprising in the gulf region?

How much sense does it make to gamble with 25%+ of the worlds current oil production, and 70% of it's reserves, not to mention a nearly equal proportion of natural gas? Without deployment of an adequate (500k +) force, economic collapse of the western economies will be a real possibility within six months of the first bomb falling.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:10 PM
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27. I think you're right
They have long talked of using "tactical" nukes. And they have no army left to fight with.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:36 PM
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29. I also think you are right....but...
they may try and cover it up somehow. After all, the media is in Bush Cos back pocket and with the way they are controlling all the info, it's doubtful that we're gonna hear the real truth. :scared:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:46 PM
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31. Which means we needn't worry about not raising the debt cap.
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