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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:58 PM
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Would you save a toddler or 5 blastula - funny RW freakout!
Mike Stark wouldn't say he would rescue the two-year old. "It is a stupid question."

..."there are tens of thousands of blastula dying in fertility clinics".

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/abortion.MP3
<snip>
Mike Stark takes it back to the streets and calls wingnut talk show host Andrew Wilkow. He asks the question that Jane put out the other day:

Jane:

I brought up one of my favorite forced birth conundrums the other day, guaranteed to make wingnut "life begins at conception" heads explode. If a fire breaks out in a fertility clinic and you can only save a petri dish with five blastulae or a two-year old child, which do you save?...read on"

Audio-MP3

Of course Wilkow did freak out..."
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/06.html#a7413


... "I'm smarter than you" he crows!!!!!




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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:01 PM
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1. I've been using this example for over 10 years.
Should I sue for copywrite infringement?

Seriously, this is the question that makes people have to stop and think about what we mean by "life".
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:02 PM
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2. It's fun watching them sputter and splutter stuff about
"this is just a stupid hypothetical situation!" because they know exactly what they'd do and why and they don't want to admit it to US!

Sometimes they turn beet red and flecks of foam appear at their lips.

It's really great fun to watch.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:03 PM
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3. great question! i've got another one (true story)
i have 7 frozen embryos on ice. but before we could implant them, mrs. unblock managed to get pregnant the old-fashioned way after all!

the frozen embryos are still on ice. let's say we have the first baby, then implant the frozen embryos and get our second child that way.

question: who's the "older" sibling? the one conceived first, or the one born first?

:evilgrin:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:05 PM
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4. wow - great question.
I guess you would go by live birth. I would.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:18 PM
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6. i would. all our laws, as well as life expectancy is based on BIRTH date
the dwelling on conception is a classic example of "a little learning is a dangerous thing".
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:21 PM
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8. The more important question
Can you claim one dependent or eight on your tax return?

:evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:27 PM
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9. well the irs's position is clear!
but yes, the fundies steer clear of that one, because "hey, if i need another deduction, i'll just go create more frozen embryos" just doesn't sound like something they want to encourage....
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:07 PM
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5. It Is A Stupid Question
of course you rescue that which is established as life, the 2 year old!!!!!!!!!!!


5 blastula that may never go beyond the stage of life they are at, or a living human??

What a dumbass
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:19 PM
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7. oh great audio
lmao...you can hear the panic as he starts tap dancing
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:44 PM
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10. Spin, my right wing host, spin!
BWAHAHAHAHA!
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:25 AM
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11. You tell me how "innocent" unborn children are when God himself
will not let those who died before baptism into heaven because they have "origianl sin." According to Catholic teaching, babies born before baptism linger in "limbo" for either a long time or until the guy on the throne changes his mind I guess. I'm Catholic but I don't remember the details of this.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:12 AM
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12. I hate to be
nit-picky - but I think you mean "die before baptism" not "born." :evilgrin:

But you are correct, that is Catholic teaching.
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