Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., would have signed the South Dakota legislation

[FreedomAngel82]

He's so going to run in 2008.

Link: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/6/132113/2039

Snip: < John McCain, that self-styled "maverick" of Republican politics, continues to try to have it both ways, this time on the politics of abortion and specifically, the South Dakota ban.

A spokesperson said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., would have signed the South Dakota legislation, "but would also take the appropriate steps under state law -- in whatever state -- to ensure that the exceptions of rape, incest or life of the mother were included."

Well, Senator, the problem is that the South Dakota bill specifically ruled out exceptions for rape or incest, allowing only an exception for the health life of the mother, and by golly, the women of South Dakota were damned lucky to get that. I guess it's small comfort to know that their own lives rate just a little bit higher than a fertilized egg.

McCain has tried in the past to distance himself from the Party of Dobson, but the allure of those hard-core, dedicated votes just keeps bringing him back. And McCain isn't the only one. >

More at the link....

[marmar]

1. "John McCain, Senator John McCain"

He's the Manchurian Candidate now.

[babsbunny]

19. HE is one UGLY Manchurian Candidate at that!

Sorry, I know he was tortured and all that, but I can't look at him! He is ugly inside too!

[lancdem]

2. I hope the illusion of his being a moderate

can be shattered, or else he's going to be hard for any Dem to beat in the general election.

[davidinalameda]

3. don't forget he's also for intelligent design being taught in schools

the man is about as moderate as the rest of the fools in charge of the Republican Party today

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Yep

:mad:

[politicaholic]

4. John McCain, man of the people that happen to be standing in front of him.

I like him as a person I guess. I wouldn't vote for him and I'm ashamed for Democrats who would even consider it.

[Nite Owl]

5. This needs a bookmark

So we remember this if he wins the primary and then tries to go all moderate, we might need to use his own words against him.

[AndyTiedye]

6. hollywoodliberal nailed it

http://www.thehollywoodliberal.com

[stevedeshazer]

16. It can't be posted enough

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. McCain suffers from dementia

[Maddy McCall]

10. At least that's what Bush said in the 2000 primaries.

Seemed to have worked, because both Dems and Repubs bought into it.

[cali]

8. And Allen and Romney said the same thing.

Truth be told, McCain has always been strongly anti-choice. Nothing new, except he's now being vocal about it in advance of 2008.

[Maddy McCall]

9. Yes, he will run. And I hope that everything the Bush cabal did ...

in their attempts to discredit him in the 2000 primary comes home to roost with him, since he has evidently been involved in deal-brokering with the very people who smeared him.

They said that he has a "black child," insinuating that he had an affair with a black woman (gasp!), and that he's "mentally unstable" among other choice smears. How did he react? By supporting the people who made those claims.

I hope that the hard work that the Bush team did to discredit him plays into his 2008 run. He laid down and let it happen instead of standing up to them, so he deserves whatever comes in the 2008 primaries...and it will get ugly.

[Left Is Write]

11. I'm sick of lip service being paid to "exceptions for rape and incest."

Why are THOSE abortions okay, but not for women who have not been raped? If the issue is the "sanctity of life" and the "rights of the unborn", why are such exceptions morally okay? How about safe and legal abortions for all women who have decided, for their own reasons, that it is necessary?

(This isn't a rant at you, but rather at Senator McCain.)

[Pachamama]

21. Maybe I'm misinformed on this SD Abortion Bill, but it also doesn't allow

a woman to abort a fetus who isn't viable (ie. birth defect, chromosomal etc.) Can you imagine that if a woman finds out through screening tests during her pregnancy that the fetus has some serious abnormality and the baby will either not survive or live with serious problems, that she will also no longer be allowed to abort this fetus? Someone pointed out in another thread about all the Iraq War Vets coming back who have been exposed to Depleted Uranium and that there could be a big increase in some seriously deformed babies.

This is just disgusting. I can't imagine being forced to carry a pregnancy full term to have to have a live birth of a deformed baby that is either a) dead b) will die or c) will live in an awful way and that I have the expense of that child's medical care; What if someone can't do it financially or emotionally? Who cares for that child? Has SD or other states taken that into account?

How much does anyone want to bet that there will be an increased rate of "home abortions", suicides and infantcides....

[salin]

12. Heh, fool.

Bad move John, better to just demure in response and back off from a direct response.

While a lot of americans have grown more uncomfortable with the "idea" of abortion after 30 years of rhetoric, it is sort of like the Schaivo case - in the real and now (as in when confronted with situations that were not expected) - having the option is still desired (look at anti-abortion crusadors Bob Barr and John Fund).

With the number of state legs who have been stacked over the past ten year with talibornigan republicans - the reality that this option may no longer be available - even in fairly dicey situations ... has a very good chance of shifting the populations overall sentiment on this.

Just like the foolish move of bushjr per flying back to Washington for Schaivo (then later compared to his absolute disinterest during the Katrina disaster/tragedy), you are really misreading this and prepping yourself for a serious blowback - as the far-religious right at a multitude of state houses - are going to put the 'threat' up to high level and in the face of the public (as in unavoidable in the news.)

In a couple of years, this - and other "be close to bushjr" stands will = the old phrase (per the political aspirations) turn a fork over... its done.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. I Have a Theory

:tinfoilhat: The more I hear about McCain I'm more and more convinced that the GOP had to have made some kind of deal with McCain to promote him for 2008 in exchange for his support of Bush during the 2004 election(and to forget the awful 2000 primary campaign against him orchestrated by Bush/Rove). I used to think of him as being more of a "moderate" and as somebody in the GOP who had SOME modicum of integrity and somebody that I could support(if I absolutely HAD TO) as President, that was until until he started becoming, more or less, a "Bush-hugger." :hug: Since then, it seems as though he has begun pandering to the extremist elements of his party, something that would make it about as possible for me to tolerate him as President as GWB, which is kinda sad because I don't really believe that he is an extremist but it is increasingly apparent that he, like most politicians, will say or do ANYTHING to get elected.

[lancdem]

18. I agree

I had a lot of respect for McCain in 2000. Those days, however, are long gone.

[Poiuyt]

20. I agree with everything you say

Bush ran as a moderate (in 2000) but became an extreme right winger. What if McCain is running as an extreme right winger only to become moderate (like many thought he was in 2000)

[saracat]

23. He is an extremist and has no value at all. He is a complete pig!

[killbotfactory]

15. Oh, that maverick!

:eyes:

[progressoid]

17. Well

there are quite a few Democrats that like the guy. This may be the issue that swings them back to our side.

[saracat]

22. I just Loathe McCain.There is NOTHING admirable about him.

And he is MY Senator. The pain of it.