I watched "Fahrenheit 9/11" for the 3rd time early this morning.

[Hissyspit]

Set the waterworks off big time. Crying like a baby. I'm a 43-year-old man with two master's degrees.

A more resonant cultural work now than it was a year and a half ago. (When does CNN's "Dead Wrong" come out on DVD?)

Did I say "Worst. President. Ever."? I'm sorry, I meant "Shittiest. Evilest. President. Ever."

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I have seen it 6 times

and it gets me every time. But I am beyond crying. It just pisses me off more every time.

[Hissyspit]

3. "It's Unfair!" went up the cry from not just the wingnuts, but many

more 'reasonable' Americans. Wonder what they're thinking about it now.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. The wingnuts are probably blaming Michael Moore

for this port sale scandal.

[Nutmegger]

2. Only seen it once

and lost it. The movie stays with me though.

And they smeared that too. :mad::nuke::argh::grr::mad::nuke::argh::grr:

[Hissyspit]

4. Watch it again. You need to see it through the context of what has

passed since then. Remember, we hadn't had the SECOND election fraud when that movie came out. We hadn't had Cindy Sheehan, and Katrina, and Dubai Ports, and...

[Nutmegger]

5. Thanks, so much has passed since then.

I'd like to loan it for the library but my name will probably be put on some NSA list crapola. :mad::nuke::grr::mad::nuke::grr::mad::nuke:

Seriously though, thanks to your mentioning it, I will check it out again.

[Hissyspit]

6. Yeah, but you'll be a part of a large crowd. A lot of Americans have seen

it.

[Wetzelbill]

7. I lost count how many times I've watched it

maybe 10? Yeah, it is even more resonant now. It's told from a POV, but it's still accurate. Very accurate. The port situation augments one of the messages of this film, in that Bush will sell out national security for neo-liberalism.

[Hissyspit]

8. I saw it the day it came out, w/friends. Then I made my mother go see it.

She absolutely HATES Bush, now, but she didn't necessarily understand, when I took her to see it, the depth of the malevolence and corruption of these people the way that she does now.

[The Walrus]

9. yes

yes

[Wetzelbill]

10. it takes a while to fully grasp

most people just don't want to believe our leaders could be so bad. It's in our nature to be forward thinking and to think that the general will all wants the right thing, so our representatives must want it too.

[Hissyspit]

13. She went through two tours of my Dad's in Vietnam.

She hates that we are being put through it all over again.

[Wetzelbill]

15. oh I bet it really resonates with her

deja vu

[BuyingThyme]

11. We're going to be doing much more crying.

The truths are continuing to surface, and the apparatus is continuing to justify them.

At this rate, the Bushes will eventually be able to justify allowing 9/11 to occur, without actually admitting to it.

I mean, look at Cheney. It is now known, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he has committed treason in the Plame affair. But not only is he beyond indictment, he's still the vice president

[Hissyspit]

12. There is still so much damage they have left to do... n/t

[doublethink]

14. Funny ...... I just got done watching it for the 3rd time bout a ......

half hour ago. Hadn't popped it in the DVD player for bout a year. Decided to tonight because of the UAE port thing ..... and just wanted to peak into DU one more time before beddy bye right now. :) Anyway saw your post like it was talking to me! :scared: ...... Two thoughts that resonate with me tonight 1. When Richard Clarke said that on Sept. 12th 2001 Bush didn't even ask/refer to/comment on/bring up/mention Al Quada to Clarke when Clarke approached him on what the plan was to hunt down Al Quada who Clarke believed did this. I knew from Clarke's book 'Against all Enemies' that the Bush Junta wanted to go after Iraq immediately, the Bush statement to the effect that 'find something on Iraq' in the insistent/order fashion to Clarke. Then Rumsfield follows up by telling Clarke that 'there are no good targets in Afganistan to bomb' find something on Iraq. Neither Bush/Rumsfield/Ashcroft/Rice/Powel on and on were concerned with Al Quada ............................... until they could figure out how to exploit the Boogie Man Osoma, they just wern't concerned with Al Quada, didn't want to discuss it. My second point 2. With all the U.A.E .... transfer of money issues through their banking system dealing with 911, and just the articles re-emerging of that Country being a 'hub' for terrorist activity on and on ..... but Bush now insists .... no terror threat with the port deal what-so-ever...... makes the LIHOP meter shift a bit more into the MIHOP category for me tonight. Everyone should re-watch F911 now...... Okay done rambling ..... gota get some shut eye. Peace. :)

[Katherine Brengle]

16. I saw it once, in a packed theater, and I cried from the very beginning--

my husband kept asking me if I wanted to leave, but we stayed and watched every minute.

[Che_Nuevara]

17. I just watched it for the first time tonight.

I'm from Monmouth County, NJ, so I don't know how I managed to go so long without seeing it.

Shit, dude, is all I can say.

[Hissyspit]

20. Good for you. They ought to re-release it to theatres. n/t

[abester]

18. Well

with all due respect, seriously, if you think he is the evilst and shittiest president ever, you really have limited knowledge of what has been done to people all over the world (especially in the Middle East and Latin America) in your name by previous presidents. I don't blame you, or anyone, for not knowing, because just like now, the media back then simply refused to cover America's role in things.
Many of his predecessors, Rebuplican and Democrats alike, were no less evil than Bush, they just were a lot more discreet about their bussiness. Let us hope this will open eyes and make people finally demand power be given to them, where it belongs, instead of being solely and untransparantly in the hands of the executive branch who are, after all, just an extension of corporatism.

[Hissyspit]

21. I am well aware, thank you. n/t

[Bridget Burke]

26. I'm not ignorant of American history.

I remember when Allende of Chile was overthrown with American cooperation. I remember our Southeast Asian adventure quite well. And I've studied other events that were blots on my country's reputation. Hint: Mass media are NOT our only source of information.

Foreign policy is not the only reason that many of us consider Bush the Worst President Ever. First--he should not have taken office in 2001. While the media mouthpieces kept speaking with approval of "peaceful transfer of power" many of us remembered when we "elected" our Presidents.

Bush has attacked the US system of government & shown a contempt for the Constitution. His policies have given large tax breaks to the rich & corporations, but have impoverished many. Money spent killing people overseas would be better spent here. Education, health care & the environment are some of the causes that are being starved.

While the US has done evil overseas under other Presidents, I think the numbers of dead do put Bush in the running. Not to mention that his policies threaten even more widespread destruction.

I remember Nixon, Reagan & Bush the Smarter. Bush the Younger is the Worst President Ever.

[abester]

27. Ok. I didn't mean anything with my remark, except that some people

appear to be shocked and caught totally by surprise when they learn of the true nature of this president and his actions as is shown in Fahrenheit 9/11. So that made me wonder if they perhaps weren't aware of the atrocities and acts of international terrorism around the globe the US has been actively engaged in over the past decades.
I honestly wish more people were aware, because it must change, not only because our forgein 'interventions' precipitate terror attacks at home, but more so because our actions are just fundamentally wrong.

[degreesofgray]

19. Fahrenheit 911 can't be true

because Michael Moore is overweight and doesn't comb his hair. At least that's what I always hear right-wingers say...

[Hissyspit]

22. And he wears that stupid hat!

And he was rude at that oh-so-solemn occassion, the Academy Awards! He can't possibly know what he's talking about!

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. I cannot make it through the Iraq bombing segment without losing it.

Seeing the father carrying his son (about the age of my son) and seeing how he wet his pants is just too much. Our President is a cold blooded murderer of innocent children.

[Laelth]

30. I know what you mean.

I see that and then I think, "He did that in my name," and I am deeply ashamed of my country. I don't like being ashamed of America. It is my home and I love it, after all. :blush:

-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--smiley error.

[Ovett]

25. I saw "Why We Fight" this weekend

Covers a lot of the same ground. Pretty good but nothing I didn't already know, but worth seeing. Neocons Perle and William Krystol were interviewed. Perle stated ominously, "people think that as soon as you get rid of these few people in government (aka neoconservatives) that US policy will change. They are wrong, because the Country has changed permanently."

[foreverdem]

28. I only saw it once

I was so pissed off the first time I saw it, I was ready to explode by the time it was over. But in view of all that has happened then, I am inclined to see it again. I may see things I missed the first time.

[bunkerbuster1]

29. Funny, I felt warm and fuzzy the first (only) time I watched it.

I was so sure that the opposition party finally had its act together, that America was wiseing up, and that F9/11's availability on DVD would be more or less the nail in Bush's coffin.

Guess that's why I haven't been able to watch it again.

[Hissyspit]

31. self-kick