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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:43 PM
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I was in a political discussion with a man on the trolley today.
Then the man sitting next to him joined in. Soon other people, of all genders and races, in the adjacent seats joined in. After a while there was probably about 15 of us discussing politics, the war, bu$h/Cheney... It even got loud. But you know something. ALL of those in the group were against bu$h, the war, the selling of the ports and the media. ALL of us! And while we were rapping I could see others looking at us nodding in approval. This is in RED San Diego too.
The tide is turning my friends.
People are getting angry and tired of being fed bullshit!
Damn I feel good now!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:44 PM
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1. Great story!
Kicked and recommended :kick:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:45 PM
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2. Kick and Nom #2 for the bus debate in a red state.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 03:45 AM
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25. I've had the same experience here in Red Alaska.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:46 PM
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3. Good to hear. Im in North County.
Ive had similar experiences here is San Elijo Hills- CA-50.

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:57 PM
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13. In North County? WOW!
That was about as RED as you can get.
Excellent!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:46 PM
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4. As Bush keeps reminding all of us, things changed on 9/11 and
the selling of the ports just doesn't pass the smell test for anyone in this country. Outsourcing almost all of the good jobs is a sore subject with most, and this stupid decision was just the last straw.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:47 PM
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5. Great story!
Thanks for sharing! :hi: :)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:47 PM
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6. Very encouraging
Thanks for posting this story. :)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:47 PM
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7. On the flight from Orlando
I sat next to a yuppie type from Florida. Toward the end of the flight, I let fly with a wisecrack about Stupid. That let forth a torrent of anti Stupid sentiment from the next seat.

Honestly, if you validate any anti Stupid stuff, people suddenly become less afraid to speak out. Anything we do to make other folks braver is a good thing.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 05:25 PM
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31. I like where your
head's at! :) Being "anti Stupid" has never been more important!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:49 PM
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8. bah hahahah red san diego? as much as i hear that, still, this makes
me laugh. red san diego. lol lol. red is the panhandle of texas. do that here and see what happens.

but, a good story, and fun to hear, and i am glad you got a group of 15 bonding and others agreeing. that is cool to know.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:52 PM
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10. San Diego is red for California.
Issa, Cunningham, Pfingst, etc...

Of course it isnt the Pan handle, but we have the largest concentration of military bases in the country- Miramar, Pendleton, Coronado, etc...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:55 PM
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11. this is true, you do have military. i grew up in bakersfield
calif. now that was red for calif. i laugh that i lived in the most conservative area in the most liberal state. i lived in lajolla for a while too. beautiful area. i miss it so
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:59 PM
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14. I'll say one thing for San Diego
When I was in Crawford with the Sheehan protest, I swear I met more folks (especially women) from San Diego than any other place in the U.S. Shocked the hell outta me but I'll never forget it. Changed my perception of SD, that's for sure. What a wonderful group of women.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:02 PM
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20. San Diegans love to be outdoors. nt
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:44 PM
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21. And San Diego proper is getting bluer every day.
People dont realize that SD has many "brown" people too, and they tend to vote dem. Its the outlying areas of the county that are repug strongholds and like it was mentioned above, that base is turning on the boy king.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:00 PM
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15. Two of the men work at my company and we agreed to meet and talk...
politics everyday on the commute. This makes for a less boring trolley ride from downtown to La Mesa.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:23 PM
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18. well i tell you gang, for red panhandle, i diss bush often, find impeach
bush on bills. ones, fives, tens..... even found impeach bush on a 20, wink..... and more and more i am having people if not agree, not argue anyway. the mood has changed, even in this very red area. this week i went into our business and two bush voters dissed bush. my rw brother declared himself libertarian last week after three decades being a repug. i have stickers all over my car and las week a surburban driven bush sticker man was OVERLY nice to me. me with my peace sign necklace on windshield, in my peace sign shirt, lol lol. he was so overly nice, was like he was being so gentle with me, had me in giggles. they are feeling the shame. i dont hesitate to look em in the eye and say how dare you didnt stand up for me when your party said i wasnt christian, that i lacked moral value, that i dont have family value. how dare you. shame.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:02 PM
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23. I'm in SD county, and where I live, I can count the number of Dems
on one hand. The idiots around here are still proudly driving around with their */Cheney bumper stickers on their cars.
Makes me :puke: every time I see them.

But I found a way to keep the neighbors at bay. I'm always wearing this "Homeland Security Advisory System" t-shirt that impeachdubya made for me. It mocks * like crazy and has impeachdubya.com emblazoned on the back.
They don't like it so they keep their distance. LOL. :evilgrin:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:49 PM
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9. I do feel there is something in the air.
I seem to be feeling a slow sea change and notice that the repukes don't seem to be so sure of themselves anymore.

Wake me up when its all over please.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 07:57 PM
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12. I still wonder how those polls manage to muster up anything
close to 40% for these cheats and murderers.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:05 PM
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16. 40% approval--easy. Use the exit poll adjustment factor. nt
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:15 PM
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17. Worked in Ohio....
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:30 PM
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19. Fortunate DimSon always gets a handicap in the polls.
From 2000 to present, they have always padded his poll numbers, thanks to big money and Turd Blossom pulling strings. Right after the 2004 Election, Turd Blossom was about to wet himself in glee over his "delicious fact" statement, because he knew the truth.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:52 PM
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22. 20% of US is mentally ill accoring to the US Surgeon General
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 09:53 PM by bushmeat
"The current prevalence estimate is that about 20 percent of the U.S. population are affected by mental disorders during a given year."

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter2/sec2_1.html

I doubt Bush's poll numbers could ever drop below this figure
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:21 PM
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24. It's that RED SAN DIEGO that gave Randi Rhodes the NUMBER 1
ratings in the market there!!!!! Yes indeed! People are fed the hell UP!:bounce:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 04:23 AM
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26. Do you guys commonly use the word TROLLEY down there?
I thought it was only used by my New Jersey friends and people with British accents.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 01:57 PM
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28. Its called "The San Diego Trolley".
Light rail vehicle, on and above ground.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:10 AM
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32. Here's a picture - what would you call it? A cable car?
It runs on tracks and is powered by overhead electric cables.
It's official name is "The San Diego Trolley".
http://www.sdcommute.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_rail_in_San_Diego,_California
http://ktransit.com/transit/uscalifornia/sandiego/san_lr.htm

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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 06:54 AM
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33. People with British accents.....
call a grocery cart a trolley.:P
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 07:26 AM
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34. Yes, I think I heard that on Ab Fab.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 06:00 AM
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27. The CITY of San Diego is blue
It's the COUNTY of San Diego that's red (according to UT - sorry, lost the link a long time ago but that tidbit stayed emblazoned in my brain.)
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 04:51 PM
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29. Thanks for sharing this. It really is uplifting. K&R
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 05:08 PM
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30. Thank you for sharing this story here.
I'm surprised at how much I enjoy these types threads. ie: While i was in line at the grocery, or, I spent the weekend with my bot in-laws. Gives a unique perspective, Appreciated by this new member.
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