CIA`s Pain Project

[democrank]

Alternet has posted Amy Goodman`s recent interview with Alfred McCoy (Professor of History, University of Wisconsin) on the CIA`s Pain Project. It`s absolutely chilling.

http://www.alternet.org/story/32638/

[Lerkfish]

1. whoa. even worse than I thought. that guy should not be getting on any

small aircraft.

[Hubert Flottz]

2. Morphing the Gestapo

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On June 14, 2005, Senator Dick Durbin, D-Ill compared US interrogators at Guantanamo with Nazis and other historically infamous figures. By June 21, 2005, he had been pressured by the administration to the point that he issued the following: “Some may believe that my remarks crossed the line. To them, I extend my heartfelt apologies.” In this regard, Durbin represents the entire nation: All of us see what sits in front of us. All of us are aware of what is going on. All of us understand that our endorsement of the Patriot Act, the new FBI/CIA does away with our essential freedoms. But, none of us want to “cross the line.” Are we that close to the mentality of the German citizenry of the Nazi era? Seems that way, doesn’t it…. Heil Hitler More...

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/morphingthegestapo26jul05.shtml

The Trial of German Major War Criminals

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It is an extract from the Danish Memorandum of October, 1945, concerning the German Major War Criminals appearing before the International Military Tribunal. Page 5, under the title "Torture" we read, in a brief resume, everything that concerns the question with regard to Denmark:

"In numerous cases German police and their assistants used torture in order to force the prisoners to confess or to give information. This fact is supported by irrefutable evidence. In most cases the torture consisted in lashing or beating with sticks or with a rubber bludgeon.
But much more serious forms of torture were used, including some which will have lasting effects. Bovensiepen had stated that the order to use torture came, in certain cases, from the higher authorities, perhaps even from Goering as Chief of the Gestapo, but, in any event, from Heydrich. The instructions were to the effect that torture might be used in order to force the victims to give information that might serve to give away subversive organisations working against the German Reich, and not only to force the victim to confess his own acts."

A little further on: "The methods prescribed were, among other things, a specified number of blows with a stick. Bovensiepen does not remember whether the maximum was ten or twenty blows. An officer from the criminal police was there, and also, when circumstances so required, there was a medical officer present." More...

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/tgmwc-05/tgmwc-05-43-04.shtml

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/tgmwc-01/tgmwc-01-01-06.html

[Gabi Hayes]

3. this is hell, from WNUR had him on in Jan....excellent, as well

http://server.wnur.org/thisishell/archive/20060128_1.ram



http://server.wnur.org/thisishell/archive/pods/20060128.mp3

[melody]

4. What always amazes me about this monstrous nonsense

Just speaking from a purely mechanical level, they would get far better and more consistent results with pleasure induction than they do with pain. What's clear is this isn't about the impact of the process on the recipient, but rather about the personal preference of the torturer. This makes it a sex crime, perpetrated by the government.

[LibertyorDeath]

5. Alfred McCoy is holding up a mirror so we can see

what is done in our name by agencies of the US government.

It is evil pure evil.imo

Thanks for this very insightful article

K&R

[democrank]

8. Pure evil indeed.

I have often wondered what kind of people develop our torture methods. Who are they and why would they want to make their living this way? It seems so deranged, so inhuman.

[alfredo]

6. He also wrote on the US trade in Opium in SE Asia during

the Vietnam war. http://www.namebase.org/sources/BJ.html

[SheepyMcSheepster]

7. That was a very interesting interview

thanks for posting this!

:hi:

[alfredo]

9. Air America mentioned in the article was owned by Richard Secord

That is where Secord and Ollie North became friends. Later Air America changed its name to Southern Air and became involved in the "humanitarian relief" of the Contras. While in Vietnam Air America was accused of ferrying drugs. While in Nicaragua Southern Air was accused of ferrying drugs. Before the war in Afghanistan, Secord's air transport company was stationed in one of the 'Stans north of Afghanistan.