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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:22 PM
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Disturbing increase in home invasions.....
In the past few months I have noticed a disturbing increase in Home invasion / murders.

On new years day a guy I went to high school with (Brian Harvey) and his entire family were murdered in a home invasion in Richmond, Va.
http://search.timesdispatch.com/Search.jsp

The brother of one of the commie's co-workers was killed in a similar incident in chicago

last week a neighbor of my mother's and his wife were appraoched by a man with a gun who said, "Now we are all gonna go in the house." They knew how dealy home invasions can be so they just sat down on the sidewalk and refused to move telling them that they would have to kill them out there..... when he saw their refusal he hit the man with the gun and ran off.

This past tuesday in Hampton, Va. one man was killed and another injured in a home invsion.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/dp-76512sy0feb23,0,2628115.story?coll=dp-news-local-final

Am I just paranoid or is this an increasing trend?
I'm gonna look around real good from now on when I get out of my car.
I'm leaving work and driving home now....



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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:25 PM
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1. This is horrifying...
I am with my little boy alone at home most days, with NO neighbors around...and we've had an invasion robbery down the street. I have a good watchdog now, very protective, but it pays to be ultra-vigilant. THanks for this reminder.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:30 PM
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2. they just shoot the dogs.
had a home invasion a few years ago -- i had a big dog -- fortunately for him very, very noisy -- but a little inept.

the cops who came to investigate -- shrugged their shoulders at my 80 lb dog and said lucky for him they didn't get in -- bad guys just shoot 'em now.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:37 PM
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6. Havocdad would be a bit pissed if that happened.
Anybody dumb enough to try getting in here, would have to shoot the dog as he would take action if he sensed any fear from me. He is NOT aggressive, but he is confident that this is HIS house and he is big, noisey and powerful.

Then there is the matter of shotgun. If a bad guy took the dog out, Havocdad would be a tad pertrubed. Me too. No birdshot around here. Range time is a good idea from time to time.

Can't prevent everything, but can sure as hell do more than feel afraid
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:51 PM
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7. you just described my dear old boy -- sort of --
6 grown people were home when this guy got more than half way into the house.

my old boy raised such a ruckus -- lucky for him he had the wrong window.{on purpose?]
the burgler had to leave because of course by that time we were alerted.

what i gathered from the cops was this -- my dog may be protective, but not much by todays standards.{and i don't mean the dogs}
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:14 PM
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10. Dogs are only detectors and are not serious protection
For that you need a firearm and be proficient in its use.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:31 PM
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3. More crime usually the result of falling economy
Add to it the fact that sociopaths are running things and you get other sociopaths thinking it's their world now.

Yes, be careful. Be more alert and observant. Look into neighborhood watch programs and public awareness programs offered in some communities.

Don't let fear rule you but be aware. Look alert and competent. Most bad guys like easy victims. Don't scurry around with your head down and shoulders hunched. Stand tall (even if you aren't) and look outgoing... It sometimes helps.

There was a lot of violent crime back in days of Bush I, wasn't there? Seems my bro was dealing with 2-3 drive by shootings at the restaurants he managed. Couple times the shooting went on INSIDE... Smoking or non smoking? Guns or knives? Yeah, bush years are SO much fun.

Do be careful out there.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:41 AM
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11. This was exactly my thinking..... The Bush administration....
has caused an increase in crime, terrorism, abortion, poverty....
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:32 PM
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4. 12 gauge shotgun
is the weapon of choice for home protection.

Remember the police only come after the crime has been committed.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:10 PM
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9. Several years ago, in Tucson, a 65 year old woman had an intruder.
When a guy who broke into her home (there had been several home invasions) she held him captive with her gun trained on him. She called 911 and told the operator a man broke into her home and was in a chair, but she would like a police officer to come and haul him off. Told the operator she had a gun to keep the thug still until an officer came.

The 911 operator kept telling the woman (65, and living alone) to put her gun down! Woman said as soon as the police arrived she would. Operator got belligerent and was insisting the woman put the gun down NOW. Said it would be dangerous for the dispatched officer if she was sitting there with a gun in her hand. Guess there was quite an argument about the stupidity of that suggestion;) The elderly woman kept her gun, the arriving officer had been apprised of the situation. Happy ending.

65 year old widow vs a thirty-something guy and the operator wanted the woman to put the gun down! :eyes: What the hell was that operator THINKING!

Every woman I have known personally who has been raped was attacked in her own home. A shotgun is a good idea, if one is willing to learn to use it. When push comes to shove, the only law and order in your immediate area is what you can enforce yourself.

Police can't get most places in time to prevent a crime. That's why they have all that yellow tape.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:04 AM
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14. I'm glad the woman didn't put her gun down. the operator
must have had his/her head where the sun don't shine.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:28 AM
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21. 00 buckshot, stop 'em in their tracks, move 'em back somewhat too
when I was in vn one of my jobs was to drive a bus out to the villages to pick up the workers on our base. The riot gun was the weapon of choice. Geneva conventions did not allow shotguns so they were called riotguns. we been breaking the law a long time.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:34 PM
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5. Probably meth is driving this
So scary - why in the world do people take even the first taste of this diabolical crap? Reports say it is instantly ultra addictive at the first hit.

The burb in which I live has a heroin problem - apparently not so violent - but also horrific at the toll it takes.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:13 PM
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8. Lock....and...load....
It's your right to protect yourself.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:56 AM
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12. It's happening here in DeLay's hometown...
Hate to say it but the Katrina evacuees are often involved. There's also a rash of invasions aimed at small biz owners of Asian & Indian decent, because the crooks think they keep al their money in the house.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 08:58 AM
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13. 6 murdered in Mesa, AZ this past week.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:07 AM
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15. Home invasions scare the dickens out of me and probably
lots of other people. I'm glad those neighbors didn't go in the house.

I think this is happening because the economy is steadily going down the toilet, and as people become more desperate, they do more desperate things. Somebody mentioned meth, which certainly could be a contributing factor.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:09 AM
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16. and carjackings.
http://www.nbc17.com/news/7379196/detail.html

Lindsey Ranck was waiting at the traffic light at the intersection of Cates Avenue and Pullen Road at about 2 a.m. when two men tried to open her car door and then fired a shot out (sic) her rear window as she drove off. The bullet shattered the window and grazed her arm.

"I could have died if it hit me in the head. I feel lucky it shot me in the arm. I never want to experience anything like that again," Ranck said.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:36 AM
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23. It's incredible that the perps were NC State STUDENTS!
"James Lyons, 18, of Rocky Mount, and Timothy Williams, 19, of Louisburg, face multiple felonies, including armed robbery and assault with intent to kill. The men have been charged in connection with four separate incidents, but police said there could be more victims and they are keeping the case open.

Both Lyons and Williams live in the Becton Residence Hall on (N.C. State) campus. Students there were stunned to learn they had been charged in the crime spree."

http://www.nbc17.com/news/7379196/detail.html



Wonder if they were majoring in criminal justice? :sarcasm:
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:09 AM
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17. Home invasion statistics are only recently coming to the forefront
however, my mother (before she died) worked as a dispatcher in a large, metropolitan area. She was with this agency for more than 20 years...and she and I discussed the things we noticed about crime and other things all the time. The RAPID escalation in home invasions in Central Ohio started about 2002...I only base this on my mother talking about what she saw and heard everyday since she started her career in law enforcement in 1972. Same thing with my father who has been in law enforcement his entire life.

It is new on the news, but the dramatic increase is not new to the scene. As inner city residents are pushed to the suburbs, and the wealthy suburbanites come back to the inner cities to rehab and redevelop, therefore pushing MORE inner city residents to the suburbs, the likelihood of home invasions increasing even more is a good bet.
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:11 AM
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18. Every day occurance in Orlando, Fl
Not a day goes by without the morning news of one!
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:20 AM
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20. Yep, I know that all too well
That's why I have me a 12-ga shotgun, with magnum buckshot. I originally bought it to take care of any wild hogs that might threaten myself or my fiance, but it would do just nicely in the event of an intruder. I live in an area of Orlando where there are plenty of woods behind our house with a small hog population, but still close to downtown Orlando, and not too far from a high-crime area.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:14 AM
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19. It is an increasing trend.
I scan wires at night. This and infanticide are everywhere. Don't forget the 10-year-old twins in VA who beat up their Karate instructor (WaPo, yesterday).

Some advice from stories I've read:

Don't rely on a cordless phone - if the power goes out, so does the phone.

If you use a cel-phone to call 911, give them your address first thing.

Other survivors of home invasions (that make the papers) involve guns being used on the assailant. Just make sure you know what you're doing if you go that route.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:30 AM
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22. I've looked at articles about the Harvey family.
That was a horrible tragedy.

Has there been anything in the news about the perps? Were they drug addicts?
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:34 PM
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25. They owned a store on Cary St. in Richmond....
called the House of Merth.
Authorities think that the intruders followed them home.... maybe thinking that they were dumb enought to keep the cash in their house.

Later the two guys were arrested in Pa.....
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 09:41 AM
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24. Two possibilities. One; the M$M is ratcheting up the fear impulse to
prepare us for the "We're not as bad as shrub, and we'll keep you safe" campaigns.
Two; the economy sucks and the crime rates always go up as people lose options and get desperate.
This is the thing I've never understood about the "I've got mine, fuck you" idiots. What do they think people are going to do as they are more and more suppressed? Just find a quiet place to lay down and die? No, they're going to get a knife, a club, or a gun and take it from you. Add to this the draconian laws (like the idiotic 3 strikes laws) the sheeple have happily passed for the last couple of decades, and you get folks with nothing to lose, so they may as well just kill everybody and leave no witnesses. Escalation, like prohibition, just doesn't work. :banghead:
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:36 PM
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26. No it doesn't.... the culprits also sliced the throats of their two...
little girls.
Poor fellas!
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 01:36 PM
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27. There was a bad one in New Baltimore, MI last week
A young couple killed another couple in their house. Luckily, the killers are now in custody, but not before they killed another guy in Flint or Pontiac.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 02:07 PM
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28. And that is the only reason....
why we still have a shotgun.

I may not like guns, I may feel better with my bow and arrows (and I am a good shot, with a 65 pound recurve pull) but a shotgun is scary the way a bow is not.

I'd rather clean up blood and deal with the cops than have someone else have to clean up my blood.

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