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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:28 PM
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Randi needs to get her facts straight...CSX not owned by Carlyle
CSX is not owned by Carlyle. Carlyle only bought a small portion of thier business.

CSX is publicly traded.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:31 PM
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1. After Friday's "theory" about the Hackett deal, it is clear she just makes
it up as she goes sometimes. She has a specific audience and she plays to them. Entertainment....go figure.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:43 PM
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7. This is not true.
Randi is fact-based and if she makes a mistake, email her and she will correct herself.

The Hackett story was prefaced by "it's my opinion, not a fact...." When she has a theory, she throws it out there, BUT she always explains that it her opinion or theory.

Believe me, Randi can drive me nuts sometimes, but she doesn't just "make it up as she goes along."
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:51 PM
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11. Relax, SeriousStan.......
Theory is just another word for "speculation".........
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:56 PM
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13. No you are wrong.
A theory has been confirmed through repeated experimental tests.

Speculation is more like a hypothesis.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:22 PM
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17. I bow to your superior wisdom, Iconoclast........
But Randi made it clear that she couldn't prove any of the Hackett happenings....that it was just speculation.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:43 PM
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19. I wasn't disputing that ;)
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:22 PM
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21. i have caught her a number of times being flat out wrong..
i can't even listen to her anymore..
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:33 PM
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2. Why not shoot her an email and let her know?
I did that once, over the flack about the woman getting fired from her job for taking pictures of soldier's coffins. They were printed here in the Seattle Times, and Randi said that the woman was fired by the Times, though that was incorrect. I sent her an email to correct her, and the next thing I knew, she was correcting herself on the air. Yes, she makes mistakes sometimes, but she's very open to being given the correct info on an issue.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:35 PM
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3. Perhaps I misunderstood her - thought the point was the interconnection
between Carlyle, CSX, and DW

not that CRX owned Carlyle.

She has stated the correct relationship in the past - perhaps she mis-spoke?

I do not think she gets many things wrong - and never on purpose - not like the professional liars on RW talk/entertainment channels
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:54 PM
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12. Yeah she keeps being imprecise.
She keeps saying : "Carlyle Bought CSX"....they bought a small division of CSX....CSX is one of the largest freight railroads in the country and Carlyle doesn't own it.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:06 PM
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14. true - but DW bought CSX's port business - they are interconnected
:toast:

:-)
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:25 PM
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18. But She Said Carlyle Sold It
making a huge profit.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:36 PM
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4. Please let her know. She really tries to have her ducks in a row
so she doesn't get SUED by some right wing nut job. EMAIL her and tell her she misspoke.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:40 PM
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5. Speaking of getting sued
What's going on with that lawsuit? I thought she went to court, but I've never heard anything about it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:46 PM
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8. She had to give a deposition. She was off for a few days
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 05:48 PM by in_cog_ni_to
and said she would be sitting in some attorney's office giving a deposition for HOURS over that weekend. I don't know if she's ever said what happened. I haven't heard. That's surprising too. She tends to be an open book.....especially about that lawsuit. Maybe she was ordered to keep quiet? :shrug:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:48 PM
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9. She may well have been told to be quiet.
Sometimes it's necessary, as saying something publically may hurt your side of a case and give ammo to the other side. That would be the only reason I could think of that Randi wouldn't be talking about it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:50 PM
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10. That's what I'm thinking
Oh, well. We'll hear about it soon enough.
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 05:43 PM
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6. That is my only problem with her!

I admire her passion and all but she sometimes connects dots that are not there, and she makes up some stuff. I am on her side but sometimes I just wince and ..

Last year a few weeks before VA governor election, she mistook Tim Kaine for Jerry Kilgore and went on and on blasting Tim Kaine.

She really has to do research before her show and calm down.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:17 PM
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16. Not a huge fan
I admire her passion about the subjects, but she rambles too much for me. She's like the Robin Williams of talk show hosts, she is not always focused on the subject she's talking about.

Sam Seder on the other hand is great, straight to the point like a laser beam.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 06:15 PM
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15. It's all connected, a big shell game
Just like the mines were, the companies change names, shake off union contracts, merge, divide, all with the same owner in the end.

Carlyle bought the shipping, reoganized, sold it to who knows who. The terminal operations were sold off to DPW. People end up in the Administration with the ability to influence billion dollar deals.

I don't give a shit about the nitpicking details. They are ROBBING US BLIND. That's all that matters in the end.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:19 PM
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20. Randi has a hard time with facts ...sorry to say this, but my pet peeve
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 10:20 PM by radio4progressives
about progressive media is that even rants have to at least be fact based-the only exception if it's satire or parady.

but rant's or raves should at least be based on facts, and that is sorely lacking on a couple of the AAR shows.

Randy unfortunately is notorious about having it wrong. The other pet peeve that really gets under my skin is when it comes to doing interviews. Randy's ego is so out of control that she refuses to let the interveiwee offer information in a complete sentence.

The purpose of an interview is to have information disimenated by someone who knows something the topic in discussion. One is already handy capped when it's commercial format, so it's fairly imperative to grant the talking points by the person being interviewed - even, when the goal is to advance a point of view, let the person TALK dammit! Instead, her MO is to talk over and interupt so that people can see how "smart" she is on the subject - totally shallow and lame, but worse it's generally a huge disservice to the listener.

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