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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:26 AM
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WV Gov.."We don't know nuttin' bout mine safety". Demowhore.
Matt Lauer sites laundry list of mine safety offenses up to even late December. Gov has deer in headlights look.

When you don't stand for one of your party's most basic tenets of protecting the worker and holding corporations responsible for profits over people, what are you? Another Demowhore.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:27 AM
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1. With an uncle who died in a mining accident years ago.
So, I don't know if I would hold the gov. responsible for this. It's the mining company that is in charge of the mine. If they violated the regs., they are at fault, not the governor.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:27 AM
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2. Gov Manchin's uncle died in 1968 mine accident
His uncle's body is still buried in the rubble. I'm not prepared to call him out as a DINO yet.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:32 AM
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4. Ouch...
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 09:32 AM by Kagemusha
That deer in headlights look now has an alternative explanation. Besides, is the state even involved in regulation here?

Edit: I mean the state as in Texas, California, etc.. OSHA is a federal agency.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:38 AM
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6. States usually have mine safety regulations and laws
The Mine Act does not give MSHA the authority to cede its responsibilities to states or any other political subdivisions. The Mine Act does not preempt state mine safety and health laws, except insofar as they may conflict with the Mine Act or MSHA's regulations. States may have more stringent health and safety standards.

Here's WV:

http://www.state.wv.us/mhst/
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:31 AM
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3. The state government is not entirely responsible for this sort of thing.
OSHA is *supposed* to bear the responsibility of checking on compliance, and the companies are *supposed* to bear the responsibility of being compliant. However, when you leave OSHA in a state where it's barely able to do its job, many companies will simply start ignoring the regs, as there's no chance of them being enforced. Of course this is always a stupid and shortsighted position. There will always be another accident in the offing, and it will inevitably cost more (due to litigation) than simply following the regs.
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Unformatted Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:52 AM
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11. I share your concern
but OSHA has no jurisdiction here, this one belongs to MSHA.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:37 AM
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5. Demowhore?? So because one individual is apparently negligent...
...you take it as license to trash our entire party?? Hmmmm...

NGU.


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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:10 AM
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9. ClassWarrior..
.... you're always here to defend the party!

In this particular case, I agree. I doubt the conditions in a single mine reach the level of the governors oversight.

If he did something wrong, jump him - but just because he got emotional at an emotional time doesn't make him guilty.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:46 AM
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10. Not the party. Just the vast majority of people in our party...
...who are decent and honorable and don't deserve to be trashed by trolls.

NGU.


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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 09:59 AM
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7. So its all the fault of the new Democratic governor-not the Bush admin
who have gutted mine safety regulations and put hacks in charge of protecting miners.

But, hey, why cast blame at a uncaring, guilty president when you can tear down a new Democratic incumbent who's doing his damnedest to help in a horrible situation. :sarcasm:
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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 10:01 AM
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8. The Govenor didn't do anything wrong.
The accident was tragic, and the press coverage was irresponsible. This falls on the mining company, or God, or both. B
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