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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:26 PM
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Does NO ONE CARE that important Katrina tapes are missing?
I guess so...I posted this this afternoon, about a key portion of the Katrina records going missing. Records of a 40-minute conference between Admin official...just up an missing. How conveeeeeeeeenient. It was in my morning paper, but I've heard no mention of it since. I posted it here hours ago, and not one response. I guess we've become pretty jaded!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=430806&mesg_id=430806
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:30 PM
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1. Huh. Weren't there 9/11 tapes that went missing too?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:58 PM
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14. the tapes of the traffic controlers were destroyed
Is that what you were thinking of?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:53 PM
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18. that sounds right
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:41 AM
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25. I don't remember this. Anyone know who destroyed them?
Where there any interviews with the traffic controllers to determine what was known and when they knew it?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 08:32 AM
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27. some info at this link
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:30 PM
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2. Thanks for posting
K & R.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:33 PM
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3. I hadn't heard anything about this prior to your post, Atman.
Thanks for the post! (Recommended.)
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:34 PM
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4. Unfortunately, the Cheny story has
taken front and center stage.

Thank you for posting the info!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:37 PM
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5. By design, perhaps?
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:37 PM
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6. Thanks for the evening re-post.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 09:38 PM by Dunvegan
Ah...a really important issue.

Actually, we should start tying these issues to the "hotter/lesser" story to give them legs like "Corruption for (Republican) Idiots."

As in, "Did you hear about the missing Katrina tapes? Reminds me of the missing 18 hours before reporting Cheney's shooting. Can't these guys stop the lying and cover-ups?"

Sorry...just trying to boost the real issue in any way I can think of here.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:40 PM
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7. There was an earlier post
which didn't get much response.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x426166
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-15-06 05:03 AM
KATRINA GAP-Missing: Homeland Security Conference Call As Levees Failed
<snip>
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DeltaLady Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:41 PM
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8. We New Orleanians care a lot!
and thank you. I was on prior to your posting, and this is the first I've heard of the "missing conference" minutes. I honestly can't say I'm surprised. The pretender was undoubtedly triangulating his mis-strategy in an attempt to foist responsibility and blame onto democrats.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:43 PM
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9. I care.
This country is in a total mess! One scandal after another.

We're overloaded with scandals like never before, at least in my lifetime.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:47 PM
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16. It's hard to keep track of all the scandals....
It's like Randi said today, "Is it sad that the least of the worries I have regarding the Vice President is that he shot a man in the face this weekend?"
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:56 PM
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20. I Love Listening to Randi every Chance I Get!
She's all some-days I have to keep me from loosing it. Blue Belle, it's sadder than sad. Do be sad for the reason you mention.

Everything that was once up, is now down; what was right is now wrong, left is not right and so on and so forth...

Why, is it any wonder most of us don't know who to trust, or what to believe in like hope any longer.

I'm Blue with ya. Now, I expect to see a post about naysayers postings. :)
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:00 AM
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22. I think it's just the overall frustration...
with the teflon aspect of this Administration that festers under my skin. They can shred the 9/11 records, disappear the Katrina tapes, lie to congress and the UN to start a Pre-emptive war for oil, and continue to get away with covering up their evil doing. If anyone questions them... well, they're obviously unamerican and don't support the troops. It's just baffeling how willing people are to believe the bullshit they're fed everyday. It's sad to see people too lazy and unwilling to think for themselves and it's horrible to think that those of us who DO think independently are losing hope. I don't want to lose hope... but certainly days like this - where blatent lies are once again being passed off as truth and another story with more holes in it than Whittington himself is made the official unquestionable explaination - makes a person wonder.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:46 PM
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10. I missed this, Thanx Atman for bringing it forward.
A 40-minute Katrina conference between Administration officials has Poofed? Very Interesting. Does anyone know what day the conference was on?
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:58 PM
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13. A Conference 5 hours after land fall?
~~Katrina Records Contain A Gap
Missing: Homeland Security Conference Call As Levees Failed

WASHINGTON -- The Department of Homeland Security has not been able to find any recording of a crucial conference call five hours after Hurricane Katrina made landfall - though it has transcripts of other key discussions recorded in the days before and after the storm struck.

Senate investigators want to know who conferred and what they said on a 40-minute call that began at noon Aug. 29, as levees were being breached in New Orleans and government relief efforts were overwhelmed by the enormity of the storm.~~
~from your link Atman.

I wonder what was decided in those first 5 hours. The Aftermath shows it was not a good decision for those without funds to get out.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:47 PM
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11. Yes, I care. It's a hot topic on my mailing list
and I've been discussing it via email.

However, I am jaded. Missing records are SOP for this crowd afterall.

I don't always respond on DU to things I'm already discussing in emails. Sometimes, my email discussions are a break from DU and sometimes DU is a break from my email discussions.

I'd wager a lot of people on DU read a post even when they don't respond.

It is odd (cough cough) that they would have a memo outline of the missing call (Aug 29th) - but no recording or transcript.






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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:56 PM
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12. Thanks for posting this again
I missed it the first time. From all appearances, this is a big cover up going on about what Bush did and did not do during the Katrina catastrophe. There was probably something about Bush on the tape. This story should not be ignored!
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:06 PM
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15. And the Chaney Plame emails missing? Ohh and what about those Anthrax
attackers - caught? Hell no. They anthraxed Dems people.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 01:11 AM
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23. As well as 98 yr.old lady !
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 01:13 AM by discerning christian
Totally removed from the intended targets! (via Ct. Post Office distribution center) !!! P.S. They KILLED her!!!
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 06:06 AM
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24. Hamilton NJ Post Office, 2 men killed by Bush's Anthrax.
I live 1/2 hr from Hamilton, the mail dirtro center there was for some five counties, our mailroom at work was shutdown and gutted and rebuilt because of traces found.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:52 PM
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17. Call CSpan in the morning
about the article, and the name of your paper, and wonder to them about why it isn't being covered...

They were talking about Katrina today, so they might have reactions from the Chertoff testimony tomorrow.

I wish I could say this surprises me.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:56 PM
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19. like taking a sip from a firehose
i wasn't around earlier, but you're right OP, this smacks of coverup. as with all the other covering up of their killing ways -i'm outraged.

it's hard to keep on top of all their ceaseless criminality.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:14 PM
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21. Gotta admit, I am jaded.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 11:15 PM by Canuckistanian
Especially where it concerns Bushco and missing documents or evidence.

A little list.

1. Missing National Guard docs about Shrub's service.
2. Missing records of past DUI's, possible drug busts.
3. Missing entire driver's license records for Shrub until just before he started run for pres.
4. Misssing docs on Harken and it's scandal.
5. Missing docs on Shrub's SEC investigation.
5. Missing entire record of Cheney Energy Task Force. Not even the subject or the participants involved.
6. Missing "hundreds" of pages from Saddam's Response to the UN about his weapons, materials and programs
7. Missing emails of Cheney's from the WH.
8. etc., etc.

These are just a few that I can rhyme off.

So, yeah, it neither surprises me nor shocks me. And anyways, I'm sure they not absolutely necessary.

This gang of idiots won't be able to keep anything together soon. The truth will out. I'm sure some officials are getting so disgusted that they'll start giving evidence as soon as they're asked.
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Appalachian_American Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:42 AM
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26. Ditto to the jaded thing above
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 05:47 PM
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28. I think their excuse is..
that they forgot to push the record button.

:eyes:
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