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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:52 PM
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What was Hacketts qualifications for Senate?
Besides being a Iraq war veteran, what was Hacketts qualifications for Senate?

and why doesn't he run again for the House?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:52 PM
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1. 30 plus years old and a citizen n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:54 PM
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4. Yes. And, he distinguishes himself by speaking the truth.
Peace.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:53 PM
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2. He's an American citizen.
n/t
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:54 PM
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5. Ok, besides being legally qualified. Geez come on folks. Think a bit.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:58 PM
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8. Okay I'm thinking!
May I interject some left handed logic? What is bush's qualifications? cornyn's? santorum's? frist's? And on and on and on.

Please give us a hint of what kind of response you want. Since I'm a fellow veteran, I think Mr Hackett is highly qualified for public office.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:59 PM
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10. At least as much as Georges Allen.
Not sure what the point is?
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:02 PM
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14. I think the mistaken idea is he has to "pay his dues" first
But that's simply not true, there have been plenty of people who have run for Senate without ever holding public office at all.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:31 PM
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20. He was running as NON Career Politician
That was the platform and it was quite successful in his 2004 bid.

Maybe people are just sick tired of career politicians who don't give two shits about the middle class american, keep proving it with their votes for Ahh I dunno the Bankruptcy Bill?

His qualification was people related to him and found him appealing, remember: Its not what you know but who you know. Apparently Hackett didn't know the right people but someone else sure did.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:55 PM
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6. And a resident of Ohio. nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:54 PM
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3. Hackett's stated reasons for not running for the House
is that he promised other Democrats who were thinking of running that he wouldn't run. He isn't running because he feels his word is his bond, a rather refreshing outlook, imho.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:56 PM
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7. John, why does this thread sound like flamebait?
Seriously, you see all the inflamed passions around here and you're asking for round number whatever in people justifying their chosen candidate who just got screwed yesterday.

C'mon already.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:01 PM
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12. no kidding. thanks Justitia
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:02 PM
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13. Just wanted to know his background
Does he have political background? If not, business background?

We have people here in Texas running for office that clearly dont have any experience in anything, except to "take back the hosue". And it is not working.

Just wanted to know his experience. nothing more.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:23 PM
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29. He made a strong showing in a Republican district last year.
That's about it.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:31 PM
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32. "that's about it"?
If you want to be so cold-blooded about it, that should be all that's important.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:35 PM
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35. It's a nutshell.
I didn't think they were asking for the long version.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:36 PM
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37. yep!
not very constructive eh?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:36 PM
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39. Prolly not.
:)
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:58 PM
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9. Here they are...
"No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen."
These are the only requirements, oh, and a truckload of money.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:00 PM
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11. There are LOTS of people who run for Senate without "qualifications"
Hillary Clinton is the biggest example I can think of. Unless I'm mistaken, this is the first time she's held public office.

I'm sure if I took the time to research every member of the Senate, I'd probably find plenty who didn't serve in the House first.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:03 PM
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15. He met the legal qualifications for the job
and he was honest, a good speaker who spoke his mind, and would have made a hell of a senator. I am seriously bummed this turned out the way it did. I really like him and how he handles himself.
Refreshing.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:05 PM
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16. An unapologetic straight talker, something sadly lacking in the Senate
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:13 PM
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17. What were John Glenn's qualifications
for running for Senate in Ohio?

That's right, he was an astronaut...

John Glenn said Hackett should have stayed in the race, & the party also tried to keep him from running.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:24 PM
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18. People have called your post "flame bait" ...
...and I believe you are espousing a certain attitude here,but let me speak for a moment to qualifications....Appearently you would like me to discuss things like education (George Bush-Harvard and Yale),Family background (George Bush back to Nazi sympathizers and rapacious financiers)Political experience (George Bush prior to crony financed Texas Governors campaign-Failed oilman and minority, crony financed, baseball team owner) etc,etc...
My point being that many US senators have pulled the same trick that careerist military officers pull-they have their tickets punched and move on, never understanding the meaning of the punch....I would love to list 3-4 "traits" of senators and see how many sitting senators fit it.....

A.Rich/illustrious/well connected family.
B.Ivy league,C average,legacy college career.
C.Brief lawyer/Doctor/executive career.
D.One local election-then POOF-national statesmen....

and your implication is that this has served us well in our choices...

Hackett was a Marine-I know they truly do believe in an honor code.He was a combat leader-that means he truly understands what a hard decision takes and what the results can mean.I have heard him speak the truth and found it refreshing.....that's good enough for me.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:25 PM
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19. He was lawyer but weren't they all =p eom
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:42 PM
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21. what were Arnold's qualifications, what about Sonny Bono and now his
widow and Fred(I think) Gandy just to mention a few who's only qualification was name recognition.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:50 PM
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22. Okay
A.Didn't get an Oscar.
B.Didn't get a Grammy.
C.Didn't get an Emmy.
I think that about covers it....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:51 PM
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23. High praise indeed (snicker)
Why, he's just as unqualified as some of the worst politicans around!
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:18 PM
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24.  What a question, it is like asking,"What were HIllary's qualifications?
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 05:20 PM by MoJoWorkin
Besides being married to a President.....
and why didn't she start out as a Rep......


There are other things about a person that can make them great candidates---many of them have been mentioned by others in this thread.


Sorry, I didn't realize someone above already mentioned this.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:19 PM
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25. Well, Hilly has been hands-on working on policy issues for decades.
In Arkansas and in Washington. So...
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:21 PM
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27. Your point is that no one is qualified unless they are policy wonks
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 05:28 PM by MoJoWorkin
or come up thru the ranks?

A fresh perspective on things from someone who is truly outside the Beltway , to many of us here, is a good qualification. Those on the "inside" sure have messed up a lot lately. and that INCLUDES Hilly.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:27 PM
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31. My point
is that experience is helpful when serving in an important government job. I think the governor of Massachusetts is a shithead, but that doesn't mean I am qualified to do his job. A Senator has to know about committee structures, subcommittees, staff, who wants what and works where, what policies will fly and what won't, who needs what for deals to be made, etc. It isn't the kind of thing that on-the-job training is a good thing.

This whole line of thinking - having experience for a big, important job - isn't exactly crazy or anti-democratic, ya know.
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:32 PM
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33. I think Hackett is pretty damn quick on his feet. I bet he could get
all that committee structure stuff in no time---after all, he was military and there sure is structure there.
That old dog just don't hunt for me, Will.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:37 PM
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40. Its the old "this is too complicated for you" excuse.
Some DUers act like regular people cant read books and watch CSPAN and figure out things.

If jokers like Joe Biden & Hill Clinton can figure it out, a Lawyer & Marine can too.

Citizen statesmen are what we need more of, not more machine politics.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:36 PM
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38. So Hillary is qualified and Hackett is not?
You wouldn't happen to have any beltway buddies who are rooting fer Brown, now would ya? ;-)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:38 PM
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41. Beltway buddies?
No. PDA has endorsed Brown, and did so a while ago. I'm sure the Congressional Progressive Caucus would like to see a Senator Brown.

Somehow, saying that Hillary has actual policy experience makes me some kind of beltway whore?

I really, really enjoy when DU collectively refuses to do anything but flame on and flame out.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:34 PM
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34. Hackett has hands-on working on Military issues...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 05:40 PM by Dr Fate
...which is where Democrats are percieved as being weak.

That perception will be very easy for the Repubs to continue to promote in Ohio now.

The talking point WILL be:

"Democrats squeezed out the vet for some Big city librul with a girl's name! HAW HAW! Probably sips Merlot too- HAR! HAR! It's obvious that DEMs dont care about the military or Ohio vets, blah blah blah..."

We blew it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:35 PM
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36. Yeah
That's why the DCCC is supporting a legless Iraq vet named Duckworth in Illinois over Christine Cegalis.

Right-o.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:39 PM
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42. Illinois is not Ohio and Duckworth aint Hackett.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 05:39 PM by Dr Fate
Just because the DCCC may be getting it right in Ill. does not mean they did not blow it in Ohio.

Which they just did.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:21 PM
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26. From What I've Seen As The Trend On DU Lately, He Says What They Want To
hear.

I'm on the side though that believes that in itself is not enough to get one elected to the senate, much like Cindy saying what they want to hear wouldn't be enough either.

I liked Paul and admire him. I'm not convinced, however, that he was ready.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:22 PM
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28. To your second question, he promised the people who ran he wouldn't.
To your first, I never really understood that either.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:24 PM
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30. Credibility on Military issues/ promised other DEMs not to run for House.
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 05:29 PM by Dr Fate
His exact qualifications are just as good as half the hacks there now- the biggest one is he had CREDIBILITY on military issues, guts and a straightforward way of communicating.

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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:12 PM
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43. this is not a hard question folks. What does Hacket bring to the table?
He is illegal for a senate run.
He is a veteran of the Iraq war.
Ok, now what?
What is his experience in business?
Law?
Civic leadership?
etc
etc

All I have heard so far, is that he ran a great campaign against a republican and he is a veteran saying the right things opposing the war. this is great. Now what else has he done.

I dont know a thing about the guy, except I was excited about his possibility of winning his district. So someone speak up and tell me about him.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:20 PM
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44. The same thing Bill Clinton & JFK had. Charisma and smarts
it's called electibility
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:22 PM
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45. BALLS
to speak truth to power.

At this point, anyone who has the courage to say what everyone is thinking gets my support.

John Conyers is at the top of that list.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:47 PM
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46. His lips weren't Brown from kissing ass
That's plenty for me!

It's not like most of these sitting senators have a clue anyways.

The man's a lawyer like the rest of them, so what else should he have on his resume.

Did John Edwards serve in any public office prior to running for the Senate?



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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:57 PM
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47. What were Arnie's qualifications to be governor of California?
There are plenty of folks in Congress RIGHT NOW who got there not because they were "qualified" but because they had money, fame, or were sports heroes, etc.

And there's no use running again in Ohio's District Two until the corruption in Columbus is eradicated -- and I mean a total cleaning of the house! Until Taft, Blackwell, and that whole rotten GOP machine is tossed out any fair election in Ohio will be in doubt. Unfortunately, when Daft and Blackwacky are sent packing they will be heading back home -- and guess where that is? Jean Schmidt country. Yep, I dare any Dem to run in D2 and get a fair result.

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