DU this MSNBC poll: re: Cheney shooting

[npincus]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11330531/

Should the White House have announced the accidental shooting by Vice President Cheney as soon as it knew? * 11805 responses


Yes, by not doing so it only turned the spotlight on itself.
64%

No, it was appropriate that the ranch owner be the one reporting the incident.
36%

[countingbluecars]

1. Done n/t

[Oceansaway]

2. Done...

Should the White House have announced the accidental shooting by Vice President Cheney as soon as it knew? * 13162 responses


Yes, by not doing so it only turned the spotlight on itself.
64%

No, it was appropriate that the ranch owner be the one reporting the incident.
36%

[Rick Myers]

3. Done!!!

[Debi]

4. New poll

Is it okay to shoot your 'friends' and then blame them for getting in the way of your shot gun?

____ Yes

____ No

:silly:

[gademocrat7]

5. Done

[BOSSHOG]

6. Why the hell would it be the ranch owners job to report it

when the incident involved the vice president of the United States? Total fucking looney tunes. And total fucking crap answer to the question.

[NanceGreggs]

21. Of all the LAME excuses they've come up with ...

... (so far, but it's ONLY Monday) that one is the lamest. What if the 'ranch owner' had been trekking in the Australian outback and couldn't be reached? Would they have left the incident unreported for a month or so, until she returned?

WTF? This one REALLY SMELLS ...

[Blue Diadem]

23. I don't get it either BOSSHOG. It's a strange way for the WH to handle it

I think they're hiding something and we'll probably never know what it is.

[slestak]

39. They were probably waiting

to see if the guy was gonna die or not.

[gimama]

24. cuz she sounds SO sincere:Oh, ever'body'round here gits pelted

in the face,ever' now'n'then!"

[Clark2008]

36. I also want to know why the reporters in the area didn't

find it when they went to check the police reports.

Wasn't there a police report? There's supposed to be any time someone is shot with a gun. In Texas, as in most states, when someone is admitted to the ER with a gunshot wound, then it's the duty of the ER to report the incident to the local police, who, in turn, make a report. That report is ALWAYS public information - even during an investigation.

(I covered law enforcement for a newspaper for 12 years).

[MADem]

46. The incident involves an ELECTED (well, sort of) LEADER of the nation

He friken reports to the AMERICAN PEOPLE, not to some ranch owner. Public interest trumps any issues she might have. If she didn't want the publicity, she shouldn't have invited Little Sure Shot to her ranch to kill tame game!

[Saphire]

7. done

[gimama]

18. Hey,Tx Lady,YOU ever been 'peppered' by buckshot??

Me neither. And I've been shot AT.
Even in texas, this makes NO dang sense,does it??

[Blue Diadem]

8. done n/t

[NJ Democrats]

9. Done. Still 64-36.

[donheld]

10. done

:bounce:

[NWHarkness]

11. 36% of respondents are just plain Bush apologists

Because there is absolutely NO logical reason why anyone would think it should have been left up to the ranch owner. If someone gets shot on MY property, would it be up to me whether or not it should be reported? That's just nuts.

[babylonsister]

12. Done! The ayes have it so far! nt

[Nightwing]

13. Done

Why wait 24 hours before reporting the shooting?? Another CYA by 8/Cheney perhaps? Or was the VP drunk?? That's what I want to know.

[GetTheRightVote]

14. Done & voted, WH should have disclosed earlier

:kick:

[rusty charly]

15. where's the choice:

Yes, we have something called "rule of law" in this country.

[gratuitous]

16. What a bogus choice

"Yes, by not doing so it only turned the spotlight on itself."

What about "Yes, by not doing so, it appeared that they're trying to hide something, and as we all know, people who've done nothing wrong have nothing to hide, so what did the White House do wrong that they're trying to cover up."

Now THAT's a "yes" vote I could heartily endorse.

Though I did vote, and oddly enough, the meter seems stuck at 64-36 yes.

[badgerpup]

17. Funny...

Is it just me, or do the numbers of the 'ranch owner should report it' strangely resemble Bush's approval ratings?

[myrna minx]

20. Bingo!

Welcome to DU, Badgerpup. :hi:

[Greybnk48]

19. Choice #3: It was creepy and bizarre not to report it

what an asinine poll.

[Proud2BaLiberalMom]

22. Done.....n/t

[gimama]

25. wives & stand-by ambulances on huntin' trips??

I'm here to tell You All, there's WAAAAY more to this.

[npincus]

28. that's NO wives... not a wife to be seen!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=404934&mesg_id=404934

[AzDar]

26. Done...still 64% yes.. n/t

[gimama]

27. Even Tweety is scratchin'his head..

told news lady, "I need more time to respond to this..before the indictments come down"..
WooHOOOOO! I believe he meant 'judgement' indictment, NOT the legal kind..but we are DUE for some JUSTICE,and I can Dream! Will break my msnbc boycott for Tweety on FUDDgate! WooHoooo!

[im10ashus]

29. Done!

Should the White House have announced the accidental shooting by Vice President Cheney as soon as it knew? * 20753 responses

Yes, by not doing so it only turned the spotlight on itself.
64%

No, it was appropriate that the ranch owner be the one reporting the incident.
36%

[Straight Shooter]

30. Done. Now it's 63% to 37% percent.

At least 63% of Americans still seem to have a fundamental grasp of the law. As for the others .... x(

[kaygore]

31. Done

[DemInDistress]

32. Done...63% yes...37% no.....23,252 votes.....nt

[SPKrazy]

33. Done, but shitty choices as usual

What about Yes, they should have disclosed it because it is the people's business what Dickhead does.

Or Yes, waiting 24 hours indicates there is something fishy

or Yes the ranch owner shouldn't be the one reporting an accident involving the VPOTUS

[ClayZ]

34. Done

[Bozita]

35. Did owners of the WTC announce a problem on 9/11/01?

[MADem]

47. Yeah, they didn't withhold that info until the owners had a chance to

choose the timing of the release, now, did they???

[City Lights]

37. done eom

[RobertSeattle]

38. I'd love to see a 2nd question

"If Al Gore had done the same thing in Feburary of 1998, would your answer be the same?"

[Jemmons]

40. Both answers wrong - should be like this:

Should the White House have announced the accidental shooting by Vice President Cheney as soon as it knew? * 20753 responses

Yes, by not doing so it only showcased the administrations trademark arrogance too clearly.
64%

No, the VP had to try convince the victim that it would be in his best interest to agree on their story if questioned later.
36%

[Vidar]

41. done yes down to 62%

[Kerrytravelers]

42. DUne.

[IndyOp]

43. Yes is back up to 68% - Keep posting!

:kick:

[DemonGoddess]

44. done

down to 61%

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Done! nt

Yes, by not doing so it only turned the spotlight on itself.
61%
No, it was appropriate that the ranch owner be the one reporting the incident.
39%

[joanski0]

48. Done n/t

[dogday]

49. Done

same stats K&R

[StefanX]

50. This looks really bad for Cheney

I mean, 22 hours? This means everyone went to bed and got a good night's sleep while the shooting victim was in the ICU with possibly several hundred gunshot pellets in his face and neck.

According to a surgeon's post over at SteveGilliard.blogspot.com, these pellets can block the carotid artery (which feeds the brain) and they can travel throughout the body.

Something is fishy here.

If you're interested, google

bertha marvin bush driveway

to read about another incident where the White House took a long time to report anything to the public. In this case, 62-year-old Bertha Champagne, who worked as a babysitter and maid for W's brother Marvin Bush (who had just been put in charge of security at the World Trade Center before 9/11), was found dead in Marvin's driveway, crushed against a wall by her own vehicle. The death was ruled an accident.

It wasn't reported in the media until 6 days later -- and then only in one outlet, WaPo.

[Vanje]

61. they had to wait to report the incident

until Cheney sobered up.

[onecent]

51. 61 yes 31 no IT's being freeped. n/t.

[Road Scholar]

52. Done! nt

[MamaBear]

53. It's getting Freeped now 61/39

Should the White House have announced the accidental shooting by Vice President Cheney as soon as it knew? * 46683 responses
Yes, by not doing so it only turned the spotlight on itself.
61%
No, it was appropriate that the ranch owner be the one reporting the incident.
39%

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

54. Done

:headbang:

[sundancekid]

55. 61/39 with 51913 responses ... let DUers prevail over freepers ... NOW

[Caoimhe]

56. Done n/t

[Timbuk3]

57. What a ridiculous poll!

"Yes" is the equivalent of agreeing that the evil "liberal media" is out to get the poor Bush White House.

"No" is the equivalent of agreeing that "everying's fine, move along, there's nothing to see here."

I'd have preferred a third answer: "No, I've come to expect the White House to avoid the facts until those rare, almost non-existent instances when the media holds their feet to the fire."

BTW, as I write this it was 71273 responses, 60% yes, 40% no.

[Atman]

72. Gotta agree...but that's par for the course with these polls

They're designed to actually INFLUENCE the sheeple, not measure their opinions. This one is doing a bang-up job.

[Timbuk3]

76. It's a bit like another poll I saw

Do you support the legal tapping of phone calls between terrorists?

Yes or no?

Since it's never been about *legal* wiretaps, it's a useless question, a non-sequitor, *UNLESS* the goal is to portray "liberals" and "leftists" (which we now know is defined as anyone who utters a disparaging word about dear leader) as anti-American creeps who want to see the country attacked again and again.

The question should be, "Do you believe the President has the right to violate the constitution in order to defend it, and if so, what, exactly, is he defending, again?"

[proud patriot]

58. glad to help , one woman one vote

[Road Scholar]

59. Shucks! It's over. 60/40 nt

[Catchawave]

60. 60%....freep alert!

[yorkiemommie1]

62. done

there's his base again.

[kma3346]

63. Done!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[goclark]

66. Hurry and kick - freep alert!

[ariellyn]

64. Who ARE these nuts voting "no". Truly absurd. nt

[stepnw1f]

65. 60% Yes / 40% No

[Rainscents]

67. Done!

:kick:

[Erika]

68. done 60/40 n/t

[SalmonChantedEvening]

69. done!!

[KyuzoGator]

70. It's getting Freeped. Move, people! nt

[Alexodin]

71. Done still 60/40 n/t

[HooptieWagon]

73. Done ,60/40 ,79K , still being freeped

[leesa]

74. Why not send the lunatic to Iraq. He could shoot living things to his

hearts content and he could fulfill his long suppressed desire to serve for his country.

[stickdog]

75. 60/40 - It's getting Freeped, big time. (nt)

[foreverdem]

77. Done

Still 60/40

[BlueManDude]

78. 60-40

[madokie]

79. Yes 60%

Why do lawbreakers like crashcart allowed guns?