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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:56 PM
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another day in paradise-riverbend`s home gets raided
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:08 PM
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1. It's so sad...
I can't imagine living like this...

:cry:
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:13 PM
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2. She is the best writer I'm aware of coming out of Iraq at present...
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 10:20 PM by Dunvegan
...so much madness around her, yet such clear and brilliant writing.

And she's so young...so very young.

When I read Riverbend's writing, it's always like I'm right there with her.

I worry for her every day.

I feel like I want to snatch her away from there. Then, through reading, I keep coming back to the fact that Iraq is her home. It is not her that should be removed for her safety...but our soldiers should come home for the sake of and the safety of all.

None of the our soldiers wearing masks knew they were raiding the home where a young genius in pajamas and robe was waiting.

That they were holding their Kalashnikovs on a teen-aged, world-class, world-read, world-beloved writer.

And, sadly, for the sake of her safety, I hope (until they are brought home) they never do.

Then I wonder: If they had the Internet in WWII...would Anne Frank have slipped out of her cubbard each day and faithfully written to the world? And if so, what would the Germans reading her think.

And the world spins. And I then realize that I know.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:26 PM
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5. nice post
thanks!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:52 PM
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12. Same here
I don't remember where I found her blog but I agree with you. It's amazing. She's a great writer. I wonder what Iraqi food tastes like.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:04 AM
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15. I would love more than anything
to be able to write to Riverbend, and sympathize with her. What would happen to any of us who did that, then? Dear God, our country has been taken over by Nazis, and what can we do? I can only hope, and pray, that the Democrats who claim to be our leaders will speak out, and fight this evil with every fibre of their being. In my almost 63 years, I have never been so disgusted, and so afraid.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:59 AM
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18. I'm willing to try and reach her.
I'll let you know if she responds, if you're interested.

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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:01 AM
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24. Please do
Isn't it sad, in today's America, that some of us must fear extending common decency to another human being? As a woman, I feel deeply for the women of Iraq, and what they have had to go through because of our government. Now, in addition to everything else, they have lost the freedoms they had, and must live under a strict Islamic law. What more will be do to them?
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:38 PM
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26. she has an email link on the site (n/t)
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 12:39 PM by whatelseisnew
sp
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:15 PM
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3. How long before they're wearing stars on their sleeves?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:52 PM
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13. What I found interesting
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 11:52 PM by FreedomAngel82
is how only Sunni men are being taken away. I wonder why just them? Aren't they the one's fighting back the Shi'ites and their ruilings? So perhaps that's why they're taking these men.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:19 PM
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4. .
:grr:
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princehal Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:28 PM
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6. Christ.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:29 PM
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9. I know. Welcome to DU princehal.
I'm just so glad that at least her and her family weren't hurt. This time.:grr:

:hi:

In peace and hope,
Still,
V
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:51 PM
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7. this riverbend is good !! I had heard of her?
and finally got to read some of the goings on..shameful and sad what has become of Iraq. I bet those very Iraqi's had a better life under saddam. As I recall prior to the shock and awe Iraq mostly Baghdad had a decent economy considering all the sanctions. But today's new free democratic iraq looks like (dare I say this) Nazi Germany prior to America's entry into WW 2. Recently I saw pictures of new corrupt officials carting off BRICK MONEY. That made me more angry,Americans tax money being snuck out the back door into a car/truck of the thieves. Bush made this happen now he must pay. But how? I'd love to post what I really feel but now that I learned my phone company AT&T has given NSA,CIFA free reign to scan every keystroke of mine I dare not say that here..
Thanks for putting me on to Riverbend...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:54 PM
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14. And they were very progressive as a country
Hussein was a secular Muslim and not like the Shi'ites so they had lots of religious freedom from Islam to Christianity. Now I wonder after this new government is installed. It's so sad. And women could go to schools and things like that. :cry:
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:00 AM
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20. The New Freer Democratic Iraq....what a joke..a sad joke
makes me ashamed I'm American...Thanks freedom. I'm with Riverbend.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:11 PM
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8. Dear God... be safe River...
she's blogging so rarely now...
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:37 PM
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10. Hope This Isn't What * Has In Mind For Us!!!!!!!!! n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:47 PM
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11. Oh gosh
:cry: The saddest part was about the girl and her birthday. :cry:
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:15 AM
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16. Her blog certainly illustrates the horror of what BushCo has done by...
...lying his way into Iraq. Not that those psychopaths feel anything as a result. But it's a reminder to us why Bush and his pals MUST be impeached.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:16 AM
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17. This excerpt from Riverbend reminds me of the Religious Right in the US
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 12:18 AM by Dunvegan
Why is it so very surprising that in times of calamity people turn to religion? It happens all over the world. During tsunamis, hurricanes, earthquakes, blockades, wars- people turn to deities… It’s simple- when all else fails, there is always a higher power for most people.

After nearly three years of a failing occupation, I personally believe that many Iraqis voted for religious groups because it was counted as a vote against America and the occupation itself. No matter what American policy makers say to their own public- and no matter how many pictures Rumsfeld and Condi take with our fawning politicians- most Iraqis do not trust Americans. America as a whole is viewed as a devilish country that is, at best, full of self-serving mischief towards lesser countries and, at worst, an implementer of sanctions, and a warmongering invader.

Even Iraqis who believe America is here to help (and they seem to have grown fewer in number these days), believe that it helps not out of love for Iraqis, but out of self-interest and greed.

--

The problem with religious parties and leaders in a country like Iraq, is that they control a following of fervent believers, not just political supporters. For followers of Da’awa and SCIRI, for example, it’s not about the policy or the promises or the puppet in power. It’s like the pope for devout Catholics- you don’t question the man in the chair because he is there by divine right, almost. You certainly don’t question his policies.

Ayatollahs are like that. Muqtada Al-Sadr is ridiculous. He talks like his tongue is swollen up in his mouth and he always looks like he needs to bathe. He speaks with an intonation that indicates a fluency in Farsi and yet… he commands an army of followers because his grandfather was a huge religious figure. He could be the least educated, least enlightened man in the country and he’d still have people willing to lay down their lives at his command because of his family’s religious history. (Lucky Americans- he announced a week ago that should Iran come under US attack, he and his followers would personally rise up to Iran’s defense.)

---

The trouble with having a religious party in power in a country as diverse as Iraq is that you automatically alienate everyone not of that particular sect or religion. Religion is personal- it is something you are virtually born into… it belongs to the heart, the mind, the spirit- and while it is welcome in day to day dealings, it shouldn’t be politicized.

Theocracies (and we seem to be standing on the verge of an Iranian influenced one), grow stronger with time because you cannot argue religion. Politicians are no longer politicians- they are Ayatollahs- they become modern-day envoys of God, to be worshipped, not simply respected. You cannot challenge them because for their followers, that is a challenge to a belief- not a person or a political party.

You go from being a critic or ‘opposition’ to simply being a heathen when you argue religious parties.

Americans write to me wondering, “But where are the educated Iraqis? Why didn’t they vote for secular parties?” The educated Iraqis have been systematically silenced since 2003. They’ve been pressured and bullied outside of the country. They’ve been assassinated, detained, tortured and abducted. Many of them have lost faith in the possibility of a secular Iraq.

Then again… who is to say that many of the people who voted for religious parties aren’t educated? I know some perfectly educated Iraqis who take criticism towards parties like Da’awa and SCIRI as a personal affront. This is because these parties are so cloaked and cocooned within their religious identity, that it is almost taken as an attack against Shia in general when one criticizes them. It’s the same thing for many Sunnis when a political Sunni party comes under criticism.

That’s the danger of mixing politics and religion- it becomes personal.

I try not to dwell on the results too much- the fact that Shia religious fundamentalists are currently in power- because when I do, I’m filled with this sort of chill that leaves in its wake a feeling of quiet terror. It’s like when the electricity goes out suddenly and you’re plunged into a deep, quiet, almost tangible darkness- you try not to focus too intently on the subtle noises and movements around you because the unseen possibilities will drive you mad…
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 01:12 AM
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19. We sure are bringing them democracy, Nazi style aren't we?
I hate Bush, his war and everything the GOP stands for.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:31 AM
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21. I've been reading riverbend
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 02:46 AM by stellanoir
for just shy of 3 years. She did a cameo post on Salam Pax's site just before our deceitful invasion. She was a vibrant 24 year old who was walking the streets freely, wearing what she wanted, and earning more in IT than her older male coworkers.

Gradually since she started her own blog in August of '03, I've watched her move from a place of tentative hopefullness to sullen despair. First she couldn't work then she was rebuked for wearing pants, then she couldn't leave her home without male relatives escorting her.

Liberation my butt.

She is an absolute love.

I'll have to wait till the morning to read her latest as I'm way too tired in the same way as she delayed her viewing of the DVD of innocent victims in Fallujha having been burned to the bone by white phosphorus. See her November 17th posting for reference.

These are atrocious war crimes. It brakes my heart. Justice must inevitably be served.

I feel such a global sisterhood with her and Faiza. ( http://afamilyinbaghdad.blogspot.com scroll down past the Arabic for the English translation ) They are both thinking, feeling, caring brilliant women and we've wrecked their lives and their country. It's an abomination.

Peace over time.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:28 AM
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22. if BushCo isn't stopped, we'll be having raids like this here . . . n/t
.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:01 AM
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23. Yes. It always comes home. We should all bookmark this thread
so we will remember what to do.

:cry:
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:52 PM
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29. On a DU thread about 2 weeks ago they were talking about...
...the new uniformed Secret-Service division. The description of their uniforms sound suspiciously like the uniforms of the Iraqis who who raided Riverbend's house.

First we start with domestic spying with the NSA...
...then we have shrub's Uniformed Secret Service Division...
...Sounds alot like the Nazi's SS????

Will the MSM even mention the raids in America when they begin???
Are we like the Jews in Germany in 1933-1938 who can't seem to get out of the way before the Holocaust?

If you are not scared, you are not paying attention...
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:36 AM
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25. "One of our neighbors died (during raid) troops wouldn't let leave house"
from the blog

"We found out a few hours later that one of our neighbors, two houses down, had died. Abu Salih was a man in his seventies and as the Iraqi mercenaries raided his house, he had a heart-attack. His grandson couldn’t get him to the hospital on time because the troops wouldn’t let him leave the house until they’d finished with it. His grandson told us later that day that the Iraqis were checking the houses, but the American troops had the area surrounded and secured. It was a coordinated raid."
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:03 PM
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27. makes me feel sick.
I am so ashamed to be american at this point.

and now "we" will undoubtably be bringing the same "freedom" and "democracy" to the poor folks in Iran as well.

:cry:
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:43 PM
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28. Jesus fucking christ
That read like something out of Anne Frank's diaries...

Those poor, poor people...:(
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:30 PM
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30. How terrifying....glad her family was not hurt. nt
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