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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:06 AM
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Angry Dems - the "new" myth
Repug choir is singing a "new" song - Dems are angry and it implies that Dems are too emotionally charged to lead

by re-framing the debate on "anger" or "emotions" the repugs are pushing the issues into the background

The tactic is not exactly "new" - it's been used against women running for office for years, i.e. a woman is too sensitive and ruled by emotions, would be soft on crime...yadda yadda yadda

So we have Hillary out there, voicing her views, showing strength and the myth becomes "she's too angry...."

and not to be accused of targeting just women - they also point to the "dean scream" as evidence that ALL Dems are too angry

I'm angry about the lies, the manipulations, the half-truths wrapped in spin. I'm angry about the corruption, bribes, graft and self-serving greed. I'm angry about how this mis-administration allows corporations to write their own ticket and foist the cost onto "regular" Americans. I'm angry about how our reputation with the global community has been destroyed. I'm angry about the cover-ups, the lack of transparency, the absence of accountability and taking responsibility. I'm angry about terror alerts being used to ramp up the fear factor. I'm angry about how our democracy is being destroyed piece by piece. I'm angry that our leaders are either lieing manipulative pond-scum or neutered jelly-fish

Am I an angry? You bet your butt I am and anyone else who is not angry are either fools or kook-aid drinkers.

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:30 AM
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1. Easy fix.
Every time one of these thugs says "angry," a dem of prominance needs to say, "liar." Not in reply to the anger accusation but as a refrain. They (dems) need to be practical enough to repeat 'liar' again and again, until they stop being afraid to tell the truth about liars.

Of course, there is another element that the dems may be worried about. They may be worried that, by calling a liar when they see one, they will, perforce, be painting themselves into the truth-telling corner, opening up their own previous dealings, plus requiring themselves to be truthful in the future, or be exposed as belonging to the same disgusting cabal. Tall order.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:15 PM
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14. Liar is considered outside of respectable political jargon.
A better tack would be, "We have every right to be angry."
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:17 PM
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16. Correct...
on both counts.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:22 PM
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18. Yes, indeed!
The greatest sin imaginable, for me, is betrayal. While all crimes against people include some aspects of betrayal, the intentional deception is of particular intensity.
In other words, when some liar does a number on me, it REALLY pisses me off!
Hell yes, I'm angry!
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:41 AM
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2. I get angry every time I hear another report of the Bush White House's
total lack of morals, continuing parade of injustice, republican corruption, and the way the Bush White House and republican party continually attack people in this country who do not have in order to increase the wealth of those who do have.

And I got angry again yesterday, listening to the NPR report of force-feeding Guantanamo inmates. Sounded like more torture to me.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:33 AM
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3. You damned right Dems are Angry
If you are not angry, you have not been paying attention.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:34 AM
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4. I don't understand why dems don't turn it into "Righteous Anger" and
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 06:37 AM by no_hypocrisy
reclaim the issue and the morality of the citzenry.

And P.S. to those of you who missed the unspoken message: the pukes were calling Hilliary "angry", thus suggesting the hackneyed myth about women being "too emotional", controlled by their neverending PMS and hormones (if not their uteri) and unfit to make "big decisions". And no one's called them on this idiocy.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:57 AM
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8. Of course, what's funny about that is that Hillary is
probably past the point of PMS, given the liklihood of it at her age.

Silliness abounds from the sexism party. :eyes:
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:45 AM
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5. The whole country is angry.
Just look at the polls. It ain't just Dems.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:51 AM
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6. There's nothing wrong w/ "righteous" anger. Even the Bible teaches that.
I don't think we need to deny it or fight it or roll over and "be nice". We should embrace it as morally justifiable anger, use Bible passages that support morally justified anger if you know the person follows that path. When anger is justified and the person angry remains cool and rational about those things they are angry about I think most see that as a sign of strength.

If Dems were smart every time a Repub says something about angry I'd accept that as an invitation to say "darn tootin' I am as every real/patriotic American should be" and calmly state all that the Repub party and BushCo have done to hurt America. Grab it, USE it and turn it back on them that they are UN-American if they are not as angry about what's going on in OUR country as you are... JUSTIFIED/RIGHTEOUS anger is a GOOD thing and psychologically healthy when used CONSTRUCTIVELY.

There's a bumper sticker that says "If you're not angry, You're not paying attention" add that a few other short but specific ones that follow with that theme and get the clear message out that 'Yes, we Dems are angry and so should you be.. here's why.'
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:52 AM
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7. it's the same ole myth to my mind, but there is nobody angrier...
than Kate O'Beirn & Dick Cheney, so go figure why republicans can't smell their own farts :rofl:
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:04 AM
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9. I think we oughtta spend more time exposing the "spinners"
I think the general public is starting to catch on, but there are plenty of "sheeple" and simpletons out there who respond to catchy phrases and cutsy expressions. Ones like "flip-flop"."Monica this or Ted Kennedy that.
Anyway, I've noticed that generally, Democrats talk about issues, while it is the standard of most republicans to talk about Democrats.
Which, I think could be a catchy phrase for us to combat the daily talking points.:popcorn:
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land of the free Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:30 PM
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19. excellent point.
Democrats talk about issues.
Republicans talk about Democrats. They can't blame the Democrats for the problems in this country, so they just attack the Democrats' character.

It's a snow job to get us to be defensive. Let's not bite the bait. Keep pushing issues and shrug off stupid personal attacks with responses like this.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:07 PM
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10. They are making what 62% of Americans feel - "not appropriate".
Fuck them. I guess anger is only for Americans to feel towards that gay couple in another city who want to be married.

MY ASS.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:10 PM
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11. I told you all this once already, I'll repeat it again
People make decisions emotionally, and justify them rationally.

By making this frame, Repubs are forcing Dems to be unemotional, and therefore, unsuccessful.

Result: Dems need to become even more emotional.
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:11 PM
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12. Well, remember, if you are against the war it means
you hate freedom, you hate America and you hate soldiers. Like this new twist is a surprise?
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:13 PM
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13. Why Shouldn't We Be Angry?
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 12:14 PM by tlsmith1963
It's just more psy-ops from the Republicans. Screw them. I'll be angry if I want to. And who says that a bunch of lying fascists are fit to lead?

Tammy
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:16 PM
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15. John Kerry was a "flip-flopper"...
Sounds rather harmless but...

It can also mean he is a liar, untrustworthy, cannot be trusted to lead, etc.

Repubs use the least menacing synonym and it is a very effective strategy. Democrats tend to just come out and say "liar" and they look angry or uncivil, in the voters minds.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:17 PM
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17. Isn't that a bit like saying rape victims are merely "angry women"??
The politics of suppressing thought - offering conveniently labeled trash containers for those stray thoughts that get in the way of being a good droid. America: The Lobotomized.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:35 PM
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20. Angry and Pissed off Democrat here.
:grr: And I blame the repugs for making and keeping me, that way.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:37 PM
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21. It's not a myth. We are angry, justifiably so.
We're angry at the repugs for throwing our country in the toilet, we're angry at the dems for being mostly spineless in the face of the worst government in the history of this country, we're angry at our apathetic sheeple neighbors for not understanding how serious a mess our country is in...

There is a hell of a lot to be angry about, and I for one wish all dems/progressives/concerned citizens of all ideologies, etc. would get a lot more angry and get out on the streets and make their voices heard. The ones that make me most angry are the pinot-swilling rich libs I know. They don't like Bush or the war, or any of what's going on, but they just seem so damn complacent and comfortable, and not REALLY bothered by any of it at all. It's all just kind of after-dinner conversation and nothing more to them. At these gatherings, I'm usually the only poor schlub there (at least the only one who is open about it - some are broke but try to fit in with the rich folks), and I swear these people barely get what the "other half" is suffering through any better than my repug acquaintances.


When the top half is getting richer at an unprecedented pace, and the bottom half is getting poorer and more indebted at an unprecedented pace, it's only natural that those of us who are being screwed from every direction should be PISSED!
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:39 PM
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22. I say embrace the anger!
Fuck them! I am angry!

There is nothing wrong with being angry with an administration who seems to revel in screwing America over each and every day. :mad:

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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:51 PM
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23. Republican Politics 101:
Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of yourself.

1) The best case scenario is that people will believe that only your opponent is guilty of your accusation, so they take the blame for your guilt.

2) Worst case scenario is that people will believe that your opponent and you are guilty of the same thing, so it is an equal fault.
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