Solid reasons why Hilary CAN get elected President in 2008

[steve2470]

Can someone please give me good, solid reasons why Hilary can be elected in 2008 ? I just have this sneaking suspicion that the RW is just itching to tear into her and rip her to shreds. They did it to Bill very well, imho. TIA for your time.

[SaveElmer]

1. Worked so well on Bill...

He got elected twice and left office with a 65% approval rating...and oh yes, Hillary was elected to the Senate that year...

[senseandsensibility]

2. They did it to Bill very well

and he isn't even a woman. With sexism thrown into the mix, I fear that the sky's the limit.

[Ignacio Upton]

3. While the reasons why she CAN'T get elected are stronger, she still has a chance

1. While the Clinton name was somewhat tainted by Monica, Hillary can trot Bill out to remind America of the prosperity of the '90s. Only Gore could have effectively done this.

2. ...I can't think of a number 2.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. I think the media and the RW will 'support' her

[Jim Sagle]

7. ....until she's nominated. Then they'll destroy her.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. I don't think so

[Speck Tater]

5. Down with the Bush dynasty. Up with the Clinton Dynasty,

I think the last thing this country needs is to start a tradition of "royal families".

[theoldman]

6. I am not a big supporter of Hilary but I can give you several

reasons why I think she can win.

1. She is very intelligent and educated.

2. She is politically smart.

3. She is married to Bill who is a political genius.

4. She has the backing of the power brokers in the Democrat party.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Her candidacy is built on her marriage to a popular president.

Can anyone seriously imagine that she would be where she is today if she had married Joe Slobotnik the plumber?

[MonkeyFunk]

9. Joe Slobotnik

would be the first spouse.

Sen. Clinton is quite accomplished in her won right, regardless of her husband.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. An accomplished, opportunistic, political hack.

With all the ethics that that entails.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. If you're looking to politicians

as your moral avatars, you're probably looking in the wrong place.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. I consider most politicians in the same way I consider most salemen.

There may be a rare, very rare, few that have some semblance of morality, but they are adept at keeping it hidden while proclaiming it.

They are best, a necessary evil, best watched closely, and treated with the greatest scepticism.

[MonkeyFunk]

18. Agreed

But I don't understand why Sen. Clinton gets attacked like she does. I really don't think she's any worse than anybody else running (or who may run).

Edwards co-sponsored the IRW. Kucinich changed his position on abortion the first time he ran for President. Why is such political expediency ignored in those cases, but focused on for Clinton?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. It's subjective based on one's political stance.

As an Anarchist, or more PC - a Left-Libertarian, I view politics as a distasteful means to an end. Being of the far-left (at, least in some people's eyes), I'm inclined to be more contemptuous of politicians the farther right they are. Thus, I'm easier on Kucinich, not so hard on Gore, sceptical of Clark and Edward and Kerry, harsh on the rest. And, downright nasty towards Republicans.

I don't believe that any politician should be "trusted" and that it's our responsibility to hold them to accounts and keep them from attaining too much power...which triggers Lord Acton's axiom.

Or, as another guy put it:

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789

[Meshuga]

10. RW is itching to tear appart any Democratic Candidate

They tried to take Bill down from the start and the same is going to happen to Hillary. I think she can win the nomination and the general elections but she is not my first choice. I would vote for Obama before I would vote for her. But the democrat nominee would get my support in 2008 regardless of who it is.

[porphyrian]

13. The republicans have been framing her as our nominee already for over a year.

That makes me very suspicious, especially given the amount of Hillary-hatred expressed by republicans themselves. Either they are confident they can beat her or some deal has been made, and both of those make me wary of giving her my vote.

To answer your question, however, she is still more liberal than half of the republicans in office and who are likely to run in 2008, and she's a Democrat, no matter how right-wing of one.

[Tatiana]

14. Actually, I think Hillary has a good shot at winning in a national election.

And let me preface this by saying I will NOT be voting for her in a primary election and I'd prefer just about any other candidate (even Biden) over Hillary.

1) She can take the heat. Her husband got impeached, and years later, she puts together a winning Senatorial campaign. Whitewater, health care fiasco, you name it, they've beat her over the head with it and yet... she's still standing. Really, she should be called the Teflon lady.

2) While polarizing, she will certainly be energizing a WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS. What does that mean? Higher voter turnout. Usually higher voter turnout has benefitted the Democrats.

3) She is married to Bill Clinton. Shallow, I know, but Bill Clinton still remains to this day a popular person. He can only help her on the campaign trail, and let's face it: many people would not be averse to having the "Big Dawg" back in the WH.

4) She has a solid voting record and stance on domestic issues. I'm talking about Agriculture, Families, Civil & Constitutional Rights, the Economy, Education, Election Reform, Energy, Senior Citizens, Veterans, Housing, Social Security, and Women's Issues. She's got a 90%+ progressive voting record. That's not bad.

5) She can raise $$$ like nobody's business. She raised so much during her last race that she ended up donating it to other candidates. She can definitely compete with the Republicans dollar for dollar.

[bonito]

17. Won't matter

The neocon's will win if she wins the only thing that will change is how her administration carries out there agenda, I'm sure it will be with allot less corruption but the attacks on the constitution and our freedom at home will continue is my guess.