If "24" is such a RW fantasy why do Hollywood and the industry continue to honor it?

[Mike Daniels]

Have the Emmys, Golden Globe Awards, SAG awards, etc all been taken over by a bunch of neo-cons or is it that most people consider it to be well-crafted entertainment.

Did people get this bent out of shape with James Bond movies? I remember James definitely roughing up the various neer-do-wells from the various terrorist-minded organizations in those films before dispatching them in ways more bloody and violent than what I've seen so far on 24.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_%28TV_series%29

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Critical acclaim for 24:

For his work in the first season of 24, Kiefer Sutherland won a Golden Globe for his performances; Surnow and Cochran, the creators of the show, won an Emmy Award. In 2004, the show won the Golden Globe for Best Drama Series.<4> 24 won Emmy Awards for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Drama Series, Outstanding Single-Camera Sound Mixing For A Series, Outstanding Casting For A Drama Series, and Outstanding Stunt Coordination. Kiefer Sutherland also picked up the Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama Series in 2004 and 2006. Sean Callery won an Emmy in 2003 for his work on Episode 2.15 (Season 2, 10:00 pm to 11:00 pm) for Outstanding Music Composition for a Series.

Kiefer Sutherland holding two of the show's Emmys on August 27, 2006, after the show with the 24 crew24 received 12 Emmy nominations in 2006, including Outstanding Drama Series, Outstanding Lead Actor (Kiefer Sutherland) and supporting nods to Jean Smart (Martha Logan) and Gregory Itzin (Charles Logan).<5> Itzin said in an interview following the news, "So just to end up being one of five is obviously a big surprise and very gratifying. But in another way, I wasn't surprised because the show is so damn good, it should get recognized."<6>

At the Primetime Emmys, 24 went on to win Outstanding Drama Series and Sutherland received his first Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series award<7> and Director Jon Cassar an Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series.<8> The show also won Best Dramatic Underscore Music Composition and Best Single Camera Editing.

The show has been nominated for 2 categories in the upcoming 2007 Golden Globe Awards, with the series nominated for the "Best Drama Series" and lead actor, Kiefer Sutherland nominated for the "Best Performance by an Actor in a Drama Series" catergory. On January 4, 2007, two Screen Actors Guild nominations were announced for 24: Kiefer Sutherland was nominated for Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama Series, and the entire fifth season cast was nominated for Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series.

[warrens]

1. Just to note

While the terrorists are the main bad guys, there's always some creepy fascist neocon lying to the president. This issue is totally inane. It's a good show (although I think this year is disappointing) with good acting and pretty good writing. Let's face it, Muslim fundies are even worse than our brand.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

2. It Deserves The Praise. It Is A Very Well Written Show And One Of The Best On TV.

[wtmusic]

3. No coincidence that RW mecca Valencia, CA was nuked

South Central LA apparently wasn't a suitable target.

[valerief]

4. Fox is controlled by rightwingnuts, so it can't be assumed Hollywood

is devoid of rightwingnuts. Corporations own television shows, not artists, so the selection of shows isn't as diverse as it could be.

[Bill McBlueState]

5. because it makes money?

I've never seen the show, but if it brings in a lot of ad revenue, it's likely to get a lot of acclaim.

[Mike Daniels]

11. Arrested Development wasn't making half as much money as some other shows

yet it received infinitely more acclaim and awards than shows with bigger ratings.

I don't think the practitioners of the craft who make up the voting body factor whether a show makes money when they vote.

[annabanana]

6. good question....

They may not have noticed because it's a "ripping good tale"...
OR..

The industry of Hollywood is, primarily, an industry. They are getting bunches of the same tax breaks and corporate privileges that their less colorful and highly plumed cousins are getting.

[fasttense]

7. What neocons can't use their propaganda on actors?

What these actors, producers and studio executives aren't affected by the same propaganda that is affecting the corporate elite? They are immune to it because they are what? Rich? Smarter? Prettier? They are all out for a buck and if they can convince some idiot actors and producers that their crap is good, they get more money. I don't get your question.

Besides "Hollywood" is always giving itself awards. I've never seen so many awards going to so many for doing so little.

[eallen]

8. Last I looked, Hollywood is an industry. Its business is...

Its business is to make entertainment that people watch and buy. That, obviously, will have political overtones. But it feeds on them as much as it shapes them.

:hippie:

[Ron Green]

9. The more I use my TV screen to watch classic movies

the less valuable is the current offering from wherever all this shit comes from.

[ewagner]

10. The simple explanation

is that they are marketing machismo....

it sells...

the bottom line IS the bottom line......

[progdonkey]

12. I only watched a little bit of the very first season...

and I just couldn't really get into it, but the impression I got was that Bauer is usually caught between two dangerous extremists: those outside the government (rogue terrorists, Islamic fundies) and those inside it (neocons/national security state fascists).

The multitude of torture scenes (which AFAIK are both done by and on Jack Bauer) strike me more as just wanting to have some intensity/shock in the show, though also because each episode is only an hour long, so they're forced by pacing to have the terrorists confess quickly. A single episode of Law and Order, for instance, can take place over a period of weeks, and they can show someone being interviewed by police four times, and you get the impression that they've been slowly broken down by the police finding new evidence, etc. Since each storyline in 24 is so short, it's all about now now now!

Also, I kind of like the idea that the Freepers and other fascists quote the show and use the show to defend their position on torture. It's a fucking TV show, and they're using it as a basis for policy? I mean, when one of them tries to argue in favor of torture by quoting 24, you no longer have to worry about actually organizing and presenting the case against torture, because they're quoting a fucking fictional TV show. That's enough to prove how ridiculous they are right there. :crazy:

[FormerDittoHead]

13. Hate the torture, but LOVE the cliffhangers!

I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT when Jack doesn't get ARRESTED for torturing people, but damn, I just LOVE cliffhangers!

[fooj]

14. All hail "24"!

:sarcasm:

Hollywood's president doesn't get arrested for torture, either. What a coincidence.